I come up with the BS from you. You are the biggest BS that I know of. You ought to read some of the ( BS ) you posted on OSO. No you are the problem, not me or my boat.

Hey all you guys that have been around a while (Chris) Is this anything like the famed Apache threads of old?? Just nonsence going on and on and on and on

biggest difference I see is that it is really only 2 people that can't seem to realize how bad this all reads!

Not even close. The old Apache threads were full of really knowledgeable people debating about the history and stories of the brand and the colorful personalities it attracted. That and the "better than xxxxxx brand", the "this would be faster but that would handle the big water..." and stuff like that. it oftened deteriorated into soap opera stuff but still interesting. Especially on those long, cold February nights.

This one is two schoolkids shouting unimaginative insults across their backyard fence. But... it's what we got.

Some of the best threads were back when some clown sold a guy an Apache trade name he didn't own and the guy who bought it spent a ton of his family's money hiring guys to spend it for him attempting to build an Apache that wasn't really anything like an Apache and had none of the original Apache people associated with the project then he ran from the police in his Lamborghini and then had to buy the car back from the police when they seized it and shortly thereafter he disappeared and all the money he spent and all the work he did evaporated and the guy who beat him in court for him wanting to make Apaches still doesn't make them even though he owns the name.

And stuff like that. A guy couldn't make $hit like this up.

And then there's "trow da' string"

thanks Chris, I figured as much as I have looked back at some of the good ones, I do love that old banter. This is like you say childish.

Interesting post from a newbie. Welcome to OSO...........I think.

Lets get back on track with the 28 Apache. I've got a 1990 was it built by B. Saccenti? Was it built when the feds owned the company? I have a brochure that says available in carbon fiber or kevlar. Where there any made with carbon fiber or kevlar or both like some 41's were? Does anybody have the true story to the history of the hull design? From what I can tell they started building them in 1987 through 1991 and a hand full were built from 1992-2005. O great ones, some history on the 28 apache would be greatly appreciated.

weren't the later ones built under a different name? And there were some 36s also from the same builder.

I think Eric Frodberg built one. The 28 apache custom with all the western graphics listed at $129K

Thats the truth!

I do believe that would be a Froberg boat.