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Originally Posted by Comanche3Six
(Post 3554791)
Looks Excellent! What HP?
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I'm guessing they will see 95mph with that power when fully dialed in. But the ride itself & handling has got to be outstanding!
What a great powerboat! |
If the boat was fully dialed in with labbed props that may be possible but it looks like 90-91 is going to be it.
I spoke with Bobby today about the setup of HH vs. the Chief because I was curious to see how they compare. Hammerhead has 600 inch blown engines making 940 hp, stock 30" 4 blade props, six pack, staggered, spinning 6K rpm's with a covergirl cabin. She runs 90-91 mph. The Chief has 588 inch blown engines, 950 hp, stock 32" 4 blade props spinning 6100 rpms, staggered, raised deck, full cabin and cabin liner. She runs just under 100 mph. Both are heavier and comparable in weight, set up similarly, same bottom with the exception of the steps, similar hp and the Chief is close to 10 mph faster. I don't think the 10 hp is making the Chief run faster so it must be the bottom freeing up some speed. I have some good baseline numbers for comparison. Bobby, Hammerhead looks great, excellent job! |
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Couple more shots of the new dashboard and removable bolster. I need to get me one of those removable bolsters. :drink:
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awesome resto job, boat looked great in key west.
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I would love to see what Bobby could do with the modern technology of today in a 42 Chief with power selected by him.....a modern day classic.
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That 41 looks pretty deep in the water. Does anybody know the weight of it?
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Originally Posted by 14 apache
(Post 3557192)
That 41 looks pretty deep in the water. Does anybody know the weight of it?
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Originally Posted by 14 apache
(Post 3557192)
That 41 looks pretty deep in the water. Does anybody know the weight of it?
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Does Hammerhead have a cabin? What ratio drives? Wet or Dry sump?
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Originally Posted by Comanche3Six
(Post 3559141)
Does Hammerhead have a cabin? What ratio drives? Wet or Dry sump?
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I love this shot. It looks like the boat is trying to eat the people on the dock. LOL
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Originally Posted by no issues
(Post 3559853)
I love this shot. It looks like the boat is trying to eat the people on the dock. LOL
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How can a Kevlar Hull sit so low in the water ??? And, With a staggered set up too !!
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mine dont sit that low that boat must be 15,000lbs
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I'm not trying to take anything from the boat , It came out so nice.. I have a Full Kevlar Hull and Deck with 6's and sit really high out of the water. I don't want to think that 41 can be that much weight.. Can it ??
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My pictures of HAMMERHEAD from KW might be deceiving because the boat is idling. But it appears to sit no lower at idle than TONTO which is also a kevar/carbon 6-pack race set up. Also consider 1500lbs of fuel they can hold
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Originally Posted by nate
(Post 3613990)
My pictures of HAMMERHEAD from KW might be deceiving because the boat is idling. But it appears to sit no lower at idle than TONTO which is also a kevar/carbon 6-pack race set up. Also consider 1500lbs of fuel they can hold
There's just a lot of politics going on...... :party-smiley-004: |
Yeah, does look heavy in rear, unless he was full in the rear tanks. Does anyone know horsepower and mph, would give us a better idea of weight
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Originally Posted by DrGaryDC
(Post 3614095)
Yeah, does look heavy in rear, unless he was full in the rear tanks. Does anyone know horsepower and mph, would give us a better idea of weight
Originally Posted by Panther
(Post 3555706)
If the boat was fully dialed in with labbed props that may be possible but it looks like 90-91 is going to be it.
I spoke with Bobby today about the setup of HH vs. the Chief because I was curious to see how they compare. Hammerhead has 600 inch blown engines making 940 hp, stock 30" 4 blade props, six pack, staggered, spinning 6K rpm's with a covergirl cabin. She runs 90-91 mph. The Chief has 588 inch blown engines, 950 hp, stock 32" 4 blade props spinning 6100 rpms, staggered, raised deck, full cabin and cabin liner. She runs just under 100 mph. Both are heavier and comparable in weight, set up similarly, same bottom with the exception of the steps, similar hp and the Chief is close to 10 mph faster. I don't think the 10 hp is making the Chief run faster so it must be the bottom freeing up some speed. I have some good baseline numbers for comparison. Bobby, Hammerhead looks great, excellent job! |
Thanks for the info. They did a nice job on Hammerhead, congrats
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The race boats that I have had with #6's when fueled to the max the drives are under water up to 6" depending on CG but when you come back they are out of the water and you can stand on them without getting your feet wet!!!!! So just keep that in mind for future reference!!! pleasure boat will sink the nose more because of the forward weight and bring the back up out of the water!!!
Don't let the pictures fool you the boats in race set-up without #6's will sit higher because of the lighter weight!!!!! |
Originally Posted by kidapache
(Post 3613938)
mine dont sit that low that boat must be 15,000lbs
Correct me if I'm wrong , but isn't your 41' a full out "RACE" Apache ? HammerHead is a pleasure , not a good comparison I would think. Got to L O V E these Apaches !!!!! :whistle: Great job Bobby !!! Congrats again .... C.B. |
Originally Posted by Panther
(Post 3614087)
I agree. In general Apaches were all over the map when it came to weight. One will weigh 9K lbs and the other 15k lbs. One has 1/2" plywood, the other has 3/4" plywood. The race hulls were lighter and the pleasure hulls were heavy. Some will run 100 mph with 800's and others barely 100 mph with 1100's.
There's just a lot of politics going on...... :party-smiley-004: How are you doing Frank???? |
A race 41 with blower motors and #6's full of fuel probably has 3 tons in the engine room at that point!!! And depending on the location of certain rigging the balance point is probably roughly 15' from the transom give or take a little!!!!
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Here's a shot of a lightweight w/ 3a's. No blower motors at the time either.
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Originally Posted by sean stinson
(Post 3614208)
There's not too many 9000lb Apaches out there in the 41 range....just saying!!!!!
How are you doing Frank???? Like I said, lots of politics going on behind the scenes with this... But, we can't deny the weights were all over the place with light race, race, 1/2 cabin, fullcabin with liner etc..... |
Here is how my 41' with blower motors and 6 drives 3/4 fuel sits in
the water....... my drives are out of the water up to my tiebar hmmmmmm..... |
Originally Posted by apache17
(Post 3614374)
Here is how my 41' with blower motors and 6 drives 3/4 fuel sits in
the water....... my drives are out of the water up to my tiebar hmmmmmm..... Now in a race boat configuration there's 4 saddle tanks in the engine room that hold 45-60 gals of fuel each depending on boat but for arguments sake lets go with the 45 gallon tanks that's 180 x 7 = 1260lbs in the ass of the boat alone then you have 2500lbs of blower motors then you have the exhaust which is another substantial amount of weight depending on whose you use lets not forget all the rigging and where it's located some batteries were in the back some not some trim pumps were in the back some not then you have trans and drives and sixes have a 10" setback in the transom assembly so that puts the weight further back versus the 3, 4, or 5 which is closer and lighter. Again compare apples to apples or oranges to oranges not apples to oranges!!!! |
Originally Posted by apache17
(Post 3614374)
Here is how my 41' with blower motors and 6 drives 3/4 fuel sits in
the water....... my drives are out of the water up to my tiebar hmmmmmm..... |
Originally Posted by apache17
(Post 3614374)
Here is how my 41' with blower motors and 6 drives 3/4 fuel sits in
the water....... my drives are out of the water up to my tiebar hmmmmmm..... |
Man that is one good looking 41:)
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Originally Posted by Panther
(Post 3614326)
I'm doin well!
Like I said, lots of politics going on behind the scenes with this... But, we can't deny the weights were all over the place with light race, race, 1/2 cabin, fullcabin with liner etc..... |
Originally Posted by Stormrider
(Post 3614322)
Here's a shot of a lightweight w/ 3a's. No blower motors at the time either.
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Warpath sitting in the water
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Predator recently....clear shot showing drives underwater!!!!
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Originally Posted by sean stinson
(Post 3614415)
I hear you buddy......how far from the Delaware Memorial Bridge are you bro???
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Originally Posted by Panther
(Post 3614443)
30 minutes
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Here's another one clearly showing the infamous Warpath drives underwater!!!!
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