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09-24-2009 | 08:50 PM
#21
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From: Lake Norman/ Cornelius, NC
i ran across the Aronow molds for sale on some website a couple years ago but can't seem to remember where. Sean why don't you do something with my molds. Someone should, as much as I want to it is not in the cards right now. I guess things will turn around and I will be back on that project.
Didn't you get my email? How many times have I asked you about buying the 41 back
T
09-25-2009 | 08:29 AM
#22
The Illustrious One
Joined: Oct 2000
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From: Internationally Famous
i ran across the Aronow molds for sale on some website a couple years ago but can't seem to remember where. Sean why don't you do something with my molds. Someone should, as much as I want to it is not in the cards right now. I guess things will turn around and I will be back on that project.
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09-28-2009 | 01:40 AM
#24
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Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 2,749
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From: Ocean City, MD
As for power, I considered changing the boat back to a triple when I bought it, but Phil Lipschutz, Tres Martin and a lot of other people told me not to and that it would be a waste of time and money. I don't know about anybody else, but I trust the opinion of these guys. I think that Tres put it best. He said that horsepower is horsepower no matter if it comes from two engines or three engines. Two thousand horsepower is two thousand horsepower no matter how you cut it. The third engine adds more weight, adds another drive in the water (more drag) and increases the maintenance and fuel costs.
As for speed, with the twin 1000s that we had in the boat it will run 79mph, while carrying 400 gallons of fuel. Lighten the fuel load and the speed picks up. Tres had it running in the mid 80s getting it dialed in down in Florida. The boat was VERY picky about props. After a ton of testing, we decided to try a set of supercat props (from the Team Virgin boat) on the Apache just to see what would happen and it really changed the attitude of the boat. So, to make a long story short we had a duplicate set made and that is the prop we ran on the boat. I still have those props in the garage. When I traded the boat I let it go with set of stock Merc props on it.
Finally, as for where the boat is now I am not 100% sure. I traded it in to Fastboats back in April of 2008 for the 39 Top Gun that I am running now. From there I think it went to the Carolinas somewhere. I think it was at a place called Carolina Performance Marine if I remember correctly. When I traded the boat it had zero structural issues. Like many old race boats, if you climb up into the empty bow area you can see areas that were patched and/or strengthened over the years, but there is nothing wrong with that as long as it is done correctly, which it was. I ran the devil out of that boat in all sea conditions and never had a problem with it.
I am unfortunately not on the board very much in the summer so please feel free to PM me with any questions and I will answer them to the best of my ability. I can tell you that an Apache is not a cheap boat to build or to own because, like any old boat or old car for that matter, they need a lot of TLC and they also need a lot of horsepower to make them run well. However, in return you get a classic boat, an incredible ride and incredible handling.
Last edited by Hot Duck; 09-28-2009 at 01:49 AM.
09-28-2009 | 07:04 AM
#25
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From: Murrayville, GA
Sean Brian is just storing my molds for me right now. He is building off of a different bottom all together. I don't know what to do with mine right now. I just don't see building a boat any time soon. Todd I will try to call you today.
09-28-2009 | 09:09 AM
#26
The Illustrious One
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 3,171
Likes: 4
From: Internationally Famous
The boat absolutely does NOT need three engines to run well. Kid Apache knows these old boats well, but he is wrong with that statement. I don't know why, but like others said, he has always been negative about this boat. Notice that he did use this boat's original name for his screen name though. Hummm. Something going on here. He even tried to build a new 45' Apache a few years ago. He may trash this boat, but deep down inside he likes the 45. Don't let him fool you. It's like the school boy that picks on a girl because he likes her.
As for power, I considered changing the boat back to a triple when I bought it, but Phil Lipschutz, Tres Martin and a lot of other people told me not to and that it would be a waste of time and money. I don't know about anybody else, but I trust the opinion of these guys. I think that Tres put it best. He said that horsepower is horsepower no matter if it comes from two engines or three engines. Two thousand horsepower is two thousand horsepower no matter how you cut it. The third engine adds more weight, adds another drive in the water (more drag) and increases the maintenance and fuel costs.
As for speed, with the twin 1000s that we had in the boat it will run 79mph, while carrying 400 gallons of fuel. Lighten the fuel load and the speed picks up. Tres had it running in the mid 80s getting it dialed in down in Florida. The boat was VERY picky about props. After a ton of testing, we decided to try a set of supercat props (from the Team Virgin boat) on the Apache just to see what would happen and it really changed the attitude of the boat. So, to make a long story short we had a duplicate set made and that is the prop we ran on the boat. I still have those props in the garage. When I traded the boat I let it go with set of stock Merc props on it.
Finally, as for where the boat is now I am not 100% sure. I traded it in to Fastboats back in April of 2008 for the 39 Top Gun that I am running now. From there I think it went to the Carolinas somewhere. I think it was at a place called Carolina Performance Marine if I remember correctly. When I traded the boat it had zero structural issues. Like many old race boats, if you climb up into the empty bow area you can see areas that were patched and/or strengthened over the years, but there is nothing wrong with that as long as it is done correctly, which it was. I ran the devil out of that boat in all sea conditions and never had a problem with it.
I am unfortunately not on the board very much in the summer so please feel free to PM me with any questions and I will answer them to the best of my ability. I can tell you that an Apache is not a cheap boat to build or to own because, like any old boat or old car for that matter, they need a lot of TLC and they also need a lot of horsepower to make them run well. However, in return you get a classic boat, an incredible ride and incredible handling.
As for power, I considered changing the boat back to a triple when I bought it, but Phil Lipschutz, Tres Martin and a lot of other people told me not to and that it would be a waste of time and money. I don't know about anybody else, but I trust the opinion of these guys. I think that Tres put it best. He said that horsepower is horsepower no matter if it comes from two engines or three engines. Two thousand horsepower is two thousand horsepower no matter how you cut it. The third engine adds more weight, adds another drive in the water (more drag) and increases the maintenance and fuel costs.
As for speed, with the twin 1000s that we had in the boat it will run 79mph, while carrying 400 gallons of fuel. Lighten the fuel load and the speed picks up. Tres had it running in the mid 80s getting it dialed in down in Florida. The boat was VERY picky about props. After a ton of testing, we decided to try a set of supercat props (from the Team Virgin boat) on the Apache just to see what would happen and it really changed the attitude of the boat. So, to make a long story short we had a duplicate set made and that is the prop we ran on the boat. I still have those props in the garage. When I traded the boat I let it go with set of stock Merc props on it.
Finally, as for where the boat is now I am not 100% sure. I traded it in to Fastboats back in April of 2008 for the 39 Top Gun that I am running now. From there I think it went to the Carolinas somewhere. I think it was at a place called Carolina Performance Marine if I remember correctly. When I traded the boat it had zero structural issues. Like many old race boats, if you climb up into the empty bow area you can see areas that were patched and/or strengthened over the years, but there is nothing wrong with that as long as it is done correctly, which it was. I ran the devil out of that boat in all sea conditions and never had a problem with it.
I am unfortunately not on the board very much in the summer so please feel free to PM me with any questions and I will answer them to the best of my ability. I can tell you that an Apache is not a cheap boat to build or to own because, like any old boat or old car for that matter, they need a lot of TLC and they also need a lot of horsepower to make them run well. However, in return you get a classic boat, an incredible ride and incredible handling.
If you need a number I can get it for you!!!!!
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09-28-2009 | 12:47 PM
#28
Frank's Marine Service
Joined: Sep 2002
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From: Elkton, MD
09-28-2009 | 04:34 PM
#29
The Illustrious One
Joined: Oct 2000
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From: Internationally Famous
He has the 41 mold that was used for the Cigar Powerboat it came from the banner boat!!!!!
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09-28-2009 | 05:34 PM
#30
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Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 2,117
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From: 4 Miles Offshore, IL
After a ton of testing, we decided to try a set of supercat props (from the Team Virgin boat) on the Apache just to see what would happen and it really changed the attitude of the boat. So, to make a long story short we had a duplicate set made and that is the prop we ran on the boat. I still have those props in the garage. When I traded the boat I let it go with set of stock Merc props on it.
