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Apache041 01-10-2010 04:33 PM

All Apache Owners Needed
 
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I was asked to gather as much info and pics on Apaches for a magazine article. We are racing our cat with Superboat, but still own the 41. Ok guys....I need pics (new and original), facts...race history, what the race name was and if you know who raced it.Try to be as accurate as possibe, with your info (since it will be in a magazine)

Comanche3Six 01-10-2010 05:11 PM

Warpath!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_6vdTEChas&NR=1

offshoredrillin 01-10-2010 08:15 PM

Although I have a cig, I have some good pics and a decent knowledge of some of the boats and history.

Panther 01-11-2010 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by Apache041 (Post 3021302)
I was asked to gather as much info and pics on Apaches for a magazine article. We are racing our cat with Superboat, but still own the 41. Ok guys....I need pics (new and original), facts...race history, what the race name was and if you know who raced it.Try to be as accurate as possibe, with your info (since it will be in a magazine)

Not to take away from content here on OSO but a registry was started over on Serious Offshore. In fact the owner of Warpath 1 and 2 is over there.

Panther 01-11-2010 12:03 PM

You looking for the race boats only?

Apache041 01-11-2010 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by Panther (Post 3021676)
You looking for the race boats only?

Unfortunately, yes, just the race boats.....although I can try pushing some of the others, All Apaches have history!

Panther 01-11-2010 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by Apache041 (Post 3021684)
All Apaches have history!

That's an understatement! :drink:

Nykamp 01-11-2010 04:01 PM

I have the 41 ALLEZ VITE a 1989, APACHE PETE here on OSO was the origanal owner.

Comanche3Six 01-11-2010 04:15 PM

Allez Vite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pDV7vHF2G4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MApMLLc_HJ0

Like the current owner Steve says....Apache Pete is on the boards....
Apache Carl too......WarHawk!

Apache041 01-13-2010 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by Nykamp (Post 3021853)
I have the 41 ALLEZ VITE a 1989, APACHE PETE here on OSO was the origanal owner.

Great Boat....any pics you could send?

Nykamp 01-14-2010 07:06 PM

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Here she is

offshoredrillin 01-15-2010 07:31 AM

Ive got some good ones of allez vite on my work computer i can post.

offshoredrillin 01-15-2010 10:09 AM

here ya go..

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...che/falcon.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...e/kemosabe.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...che/tweets.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...253b6a3d_o.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...che/falcon.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...8cba34a9_o.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...he/warpath.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...m20express.jpg

offshoredrillin 01-15-2010 10:14 AM

more...
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n.../allezvite.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n.../apac23bf3.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...e/45patchy.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...bd0668d2_o.jpg

offshoredrillin 01-15-2010 10:17 AM

engines...

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...37618309_o.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...32dfee91_o.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...63342134_o.jpg

Apache041 01-15-2010 08:14 PM

great pics........thanks

offshoredrillin 01-16-2010 07:44 AM

Here is the race boats as I remember them
41's
1. Warpath #1 Owned By JC in Miami Fla
2. Warpath #2 same as above
3. Team Apache Banner boat now warpaint Owned by you
4.Yellow Team Apache US 1 Boat (also known as Rabbit?) maybe became Apache trader then black firewater, now silver at Herb Stotlers
5. SC Red Hot
8. Island Runner
9. Island Racer formerly chillout warrior Paul Lasassa
10. Starchaser, was owned by tom Byrd, new owner is Eric? in NJ/NY now pleasure boat
11. Lamborghini engined boat
12. Jenny's Express raced, then sold to Paul Lasassa, now I believe it is raindance
13. JH Electric Raced by Phil Lipschutz, then owned by paul Lasassa, sold to Tony in England
14. Allez Vite Owned Peter hodes, current owner Steve Nykamp
15. Predator was owned by Dennis dellatore, since sold
16. Warhawk owned by Carl Warren, not sure if he raced it much even if at all.
17. Sacred Ground used to be Addicted owned by Rob Asner. not sure if was raced as addicted, but I included it because Rob raced it a few times
18 Lethal Weapon
19. Hoggie
20. Razz was owned by Yves in Fla, he has since sold it
21. Ultimate Warrior Returns-41' 6-pack limited racing if I remember correctly. owned by Bob Beiss and is here in MD

45's
only true 45 built was the RDS/Kid Apache boat, later owned by will Lynch, became the Lynch mob boat pictured above, currently a pleasure boat in NC owned By Parks Jones.

47's
1. Tweet Revenge now paleface for sale
2. Yellow Kramer still in NJ
3.PTM express original owner Phil Mechinsky then became lucky strike went overseas now owned by John Arruda
4. Firewater pleasure set up, but raced/owned by Bob Oliver
5. Quick Temepred although pleasure may have run a couple races, now converted 6 pak and for sale.

50's/47's
1. apache heritage owned by Omar. although bow was cut down for visibility, it made the boat 47 ft, but it started as a 50.(pictured above) I may be wrong on the original starting length, if Omar pops on I can edit it... :)

those are what I remember so its a starting point, I'll help ya any way I can...Rob

thedonz 01-16-2010 08:46 AM

you forgot the 41 Red Cloud

offshoredrillin 01-16-2010 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by thedonz (Post 3025134)
you forgot the 41 Red Cloud

wasnt there some discussion that lethal weapon and red cloud were the same...

These are all just from memory so feel free to add in, also to help Bob, put in any details that you know about current and past owners. :)

Comanche3Six 01-16-2010 09:13 AM

Little Ceasar's Pizza 47'

Panther 01-16-2010 10:54 AM

Great pics Rob!

OFFICIAL BUSINESS 01-16-2010 11:07 AM

PTM Express - 47 Apache
 
I can give you information regarding PTM Express aka Chunk Express aka Lucky Strike. It was owned by my father Phil Meshinsky and rigged by Bobby Moore. It was the sister ship of Ben Kramer’s 47 so you know it was built right. One race that comes back to mind is the World Finals in Key West where Phil passed ALL the four engines Cat’s (Gentry, Don Johnson to name a few) and finished 2nd to Eric’s Reality (I believe that was the name of the boat). Offshore racing back then was 150+ Miles with 13-18 boats in his class. PTM Express was one the best out there. Phil now owns a 41 Apache in NJ.

vettvet 01-16-2010 11:19 AM

Where is that boat today?

J-Bonz 01-16-2010 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by PTM Express (Post 3025224)
I can give you information regarding PTM Express aka Chunk Express aka Lucky Strike. It was owned by my father Phil Meshinsky and rigged by Bobby Moore. It was the sister ship of Ben Kramer’s 47 so you know it was built right. One race that comes back to mind is the World Finals in Key West where Phil passed ALL the four engines Cat’s (Gentry, Don Johnson to name a few) and finished 2nd to Eric’s Reality (I believe that was the name of the boat). Offshore racing back then was 150+ Miles with 13-18 boats in his class. PTM Express was one the best out there. Phil now owns a 41 Apache in NJ.

Great Update. I saw your Dad in R. Luhrs Big Sea Productions video - "History of Apache"

DrGaryDC 01-19-2010 01:05 PM

Present - 86' 3 pack, former MM's

86scarabIII 01-19-2010 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 3025113)
Here is the race boats as I remember them
41's
1. Warpath #1 Owned By Jorge in Miami Fla
2. Warpath #2 same as above
3. Team Apache Banner boat now warpaint Owned by you
4.Yellow Team Apache US 1 Boat (also known as Rabbit?) maybe became Apache trader then black firewater, now silver at Herb Stotlers
5. SC Red Hot
8. Island Runner
9. Island Racer formerly chillout warrior Paul Lasassa
10. Starchaser, was owned by tom Byrd, new owner is Eric? in NJ/NY now pleasure boat
11. Lamborghini engined boat
12. Jenny's Express raced, then sold to Paul Lasassa, now I believe it is raindance
13. JH Electric Raced by Phil Lipschutz, then owned by paul Lasassa, sold to Tony in England
14. Allez Vite Owned Peter hodes, current owner Steve Nykamp
15. Predator was owned by Dennis dellatore, since sold
16. Warhawk owned by Carl Hanson, not sure if he raced it much even if at all.
17. Sacred Ground used to be Addicted owned by Rob Asner. not sure if was raced as addicted, but I included it because Rob raced it a few times
18 Lethal Weapon
19. Hoggie
20. Razz was owned by Yves in Fla, he has since sold it
21. Ultimate Warrior Returns-41' 6-pack limited racing if I remember correctly.

45's
only true 45 built was the RDS/Kid Apache boat, later owned by will Lynch, became the Lynch mob boat pictured above, currently a pleasure boat in NC owned By Parks Jones.

47's
1. Tweet Revenge now paleface for sale
2. Yellow Kramer still in NJ
3.PTM express original owner Phil Mechinsky then became lucky strike went overseas now owned by John Arruda
4. Firewater pleasure set up, but raced/owned by Bob Oliver
5. Quick Temepred although pleasure may have run a couple races, now converted 6 pak and for sale.

50's
1. apache heritage owned by Omar. although bow was cut down for visibility, it made the boat 47 ft, but it started as a 50.(pictured above)

those are what I remember so its a starting point, I'll help ya any way I can...Rob

Warhawk is owned by Carl Warren, not Hanson. He is on these boards, ApacheCarl.
http://images5a.snapfish.com/2323232...5%3B2349nu0mrj

offshoredrillin 01-19-2010 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by 86scarabIII (Post 3027168)
Warhawk is owned by Carl Warren, not Hanson. He is on these boards, ApacheCarl.
http://images5a.snapfish.com/2323232...5%3B2349nu0mrj

oops, my bad and I was talking to Nykamp today on the phone, lol...Doesnt matter Steves wife Krista drives Warhawk better... lol j/k carl:evilb: :D

chunky 01-19-2010 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 3025113)
Here is the race boats as I remember them
41's
1. Warpath #1 Owned By Jorge in Miami Fla
2. Warpath #2 same as above

Warpath 1 and 2 are owned by JC not Jorge.

offshoredrillin 01-20-2010 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by chunky (Post 3027640)
Warpath 1 and 2 are owned by JC not Jorge.

Edited names on original list, any one know names of other owners?

sooty 01-20-2010 07:23 PM

Only one 45?
 
Some people are saying there were two 45's. To set the records straight, anyone know the HIN's of both boats? Surely this will end all speculation.

Apache041 01-20-2010 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 3025138)
wasnt there some discussion that lethal weapon and red cloud were the same...

These are all just from memory so feel free to add in, also to help Bob, put in any details that you know about current and past owners. :)

Thanks Guys....hopefully this will be a great article...it will be good to see these Apaches back in print

Apache041 01-20-2010 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 3027708)
Edited names on original list, any one know names of other owners?

Mean Streak....red 41, I believe is still in NJ

offshoredrillin 01-21-2010 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by sooty (Post 3028258)
Some people are saying there were two 45's. To set the records straight, anyone know the HIN's of both boats? Surely this will end all speculation.

there was only one made, the rds kid apache boat. some people were saying that megatoy is a 45, but in reality I think it is a 42 Comanche with triples, done later by Mr. McManus.

Panther 01-21-2010 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 3025113)
50's/47's
1. apache heritage owned by Omar. although bow was cut down for visibility, it made the boat 47 ft, but it started as a 50.(pictured above) I may be wrong on the original starting length, if Omar pops on I can edit it... :)

I thought it was 47' cut down to 45???

offshoredrillin 01-21-2010 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by Panther (Post 3028554)
I thought it was 47' cut down to 45???

you may be right, that's why i labeled it 50/47...i thought it was 50 and that's why they used the number 50 on the boat. maybe Bobby can shed some light on it.

MARINE UNLIMITED 01-21-2010 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by PTM Express (Post 3025224)
I can give you information regarding PTM Express aka Chunk Express aka Lucky Strike. It was owned by my father Phil Meshinsky and rigged by Bobby Moore. It was the sister ship of Ben Kramer’s 47 so you know it was built right. One race that comes back to mind is the World Finals in Key West where Phil passed ALL the four engines Cat’s (Gentry, Don Johnson to name a few) and finished 2nd to Eric’s Reality (I believe that was the name of the boat). Offshore racing back then was 150+ Miles with 13-18 boats in his class. PTM Express was one the best out there. Phil now owns a 41 Apache in NJ.


What speeds did that tripple 47 run when it was Lucky Strike?

ApacheCarl 01-21-2010 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 3027298)
oops, my bad and I was talking to Nykamp today on the phone, lol...Doesnt matter Steves wife Krista drives Warhawk better... lol j/k carl:evilb: :D


Damn, thats gona leave a mark.........................

offshoredrillin 01-22-2010 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by MARINE UNLIMITED (Post 3028834)
What speeds did that tripple 47 run when it was Lucky Strike?

double click for full screen... :)


http://www.turbinemarine.se/testafilma47.html

Panther 01-22-2010 04:24 PM

Thanks for the link Rob!


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