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Quinlan 05-11-2021 04:20 AM

That's why they are all called them there Cigar boats

Bad to the bone 05-11-2021 08:18 AM

Apache vs Cig
 
Yes this is Kageman now Diablo just finished it.

Sure didn't know Don sold mold to Apache. you are right though totally different feel to boat.

yes when i bought cig had custom top gun style dash put in and new cig interior last couple years.

Bad to the bone 05-11-2021 08:46 AM

Apache
 
sorry and it is a 1977 Mistress

cheech 05-11-2021 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4789187)
It was named Kageman before it was named Bushwacker

Affirmative, that's all laid out in the linked thread, with pics as Kageman and Kageman chiming in.
Actually Bushwacker, then Kageman, Bushwacker, Diablo as per the linked thread.
Well the Diablo is its own thread.

offshoredrillin 05-11-2021 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by Bad to the bone (Post 4789213)
Yes this is Kageman now Diablo just finished it.

Sure didn't know Don sold mold to Apache. you are right though totally different feel to boat.

yes when i bought cig had custom top gun style dash put in and new cig interior last couple years.

normally thats because of the weight, apaches were laid up heavy.

Eddienel 05-11-2021 11:06 AM

Let me throw this in the mix. Formula boats are known to be slower because they are heavier boats. Are the hull designs and weight comparable to an Apache vs a Cig? I’ll try and pull the article up from boat test shortly.

offshoredrillin 05-11-2021 11:14 AM

formula isnt in the same catagory. Cigs and apache back in the day were laid up for racing. some of the later apaches are 13k plus, some of the 47s are upper teens in weight.

scippy 05-11-2021 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by Bad to the bone (Post 4789216)
sorry and it is a 1977 Mistress

Got love the refit of your Mistress just a great transformation from it's circa '77 build......the 35 is just a perfect hull!

Bad to the bone 05-11-2021 11:47 AM

Apache
 
thanks basically built from scratch only thing original is the hull but been an awesome boat and plan on keeping her for now.

Top Banana 05-22-2021 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by Bad to the bone (Post 4789213)
Yes this is Kageman now Diablo just finished it.

Sure didn't know Don sold mold to Apache. you are right though totally different feel to boat.

yes when i bought cig had custom top gun style dash put in and new cig interior last couple years.

When the 35 Cigarette was built, they were in a hurry and the plug ended up with two of the strakes not meeting perfectly at the bow.

For a number of years following that, we entertained ourselves by noticing at Boat shows, just how many "New" boat designs happened to have that same exact flaw.



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