Looking for a 41 help
06-05-2003 | 10:01 AM
#61
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From: Beautiful Fort Lauderdale www.cheetahcat.com
I would like know what a safety update and keel strngthening technique is and a boat built by the alleged resin bucket master himself BTW the only place to get a new apache is from -------------- where the safety is standard and keel strengthening is already properly engineered in the boats from initial layup.
Should be no problem for the west coast florida indian wanna be's to do simple panel analysis, all they need is a radio shack calculator, then keel strengthening and rebuilding is not needed for the simple fact that the loading and deflection would be calculated with multibles of safety built in to the laminate.
but we know that they are into lightweight construction by using their commanche units which equal 1 metric ton/ie 1CU.
per example, a basic boat at my shop, instead of weighing 8,000 pounds complete at my door with lifetime warranty, ready to run, there's would weigh 8 commanche units or 8CU or 8 times 2,200 pounds which equals 17,600 pounds or somewhere around there and needs annual updates and keel strengthening every so often.
Should be no problem for the west coast florida indian wanna be's to do simple panel analysis, all they need is a radio shack calculator, then keel strengthening and rebuilding is not needed for the simple fact that the loading and deflection would be calculated with multibles of safety built in to the laminate.
but we know that they are into lightweight construction by using their commanche units which equal 1 metric ton/ie 1CU.
per example, a basic boat at my shop, instead of weighing 8,000 pounds complete at my door with lifetime warranty, ready to run, there's would weigh 8 commanche units or 8CU or 8 times 2,200 pounds which equals 17,600 pounds or somewhere around there and needs annual updates and keel strengthening every so often.
Last edited by Steve 1; 07-21-2003 at 05:05 PM.
06-05-2003 | 06:26 PM
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LEO,
It's simple to explain.
The Boat is a 1989 model.
Moving at the speeds all of us do, through the rough seas all of us yearn for, the older boats must recieve refribishing updates to ensure, among many things, safe boating.
New fuel tanks and lines, engine and drive rebuils, hull and deck inspection, transom and keel inspection, steering system inspection, electrical inspection, cockpit integrity, engine room integrity,...etc.
Surely, "steve1" knows all this, in fact, I 'm sure steve was trying to say he agrees, the older boats must undergo and pass a Marine Survey, required by all insurance carriers.
Unless you don't plan on having insurance.
And you don't care if your boat sinks.
Or you could careless about the safety for the people who ride in your boat with you (much less your own safety).
Or you could careless about the property damage and liability cost of hurting others on the water.
Call Blackadar high performance marine insurers(one of many), they can explain it best.
LEO, McManus factory safety updates prepair the boat and the owner for safe use of the product.
(steve, sorry, but was all that your unfinished calculus homework or are you still in high school trying to pass geometry?
It's simple to explain.
The Boat is a 1989 model.
Moving at the speeds all of us do, through the rough seas all of us yearn for, the older boats must recieve refribishing updates to ensure, among many things, safe boating.
New fuel tanks and lines, engine and drive rebuils, hull and deck inspection, transom and keel inspection, steering system inspection, electrical inspection, cockpit integrity, engine room integrity,...etc.
Surely, "steve1" knows all this, in fact, I 'm sure steve was trying to say he agrees, the older boats must undergo and pass a Marine Survey, required by all insurance carriers.
Unless you don't plan on having insurance.
And you don't care if your boat sinks.
Or you could careless about the safety for the people who ride in your boat with you (much less your own safety).
Or you could careless about the property damage and liability cost of hurting others on the water.
Call Blackadar high performance marine insurers(one of many), they can explain it best.
LEO, McManus factory safety updates prepair the boat and the owner for safe use of the product.
(steve, sorry, but was all that your unfinished calculus homework or are you still in high school trying to pass geometry?
06-05-2003 | 08:19 PM
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From: Beautiful Fort Lauderdale www.cheetahcat.com
Oh NOW I understand a complete Rebuild using the ole Safety Issue/Gimmick ....Gee and I thought it was just some Super Costly inspection of the expiration dates on the Life-Jackets..Thanks for clearing that up.
06-07-2003 | 05:00 AM
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"steve1"
Do even own a boat? Sounds like you don't, so you wouln't understand.
How many races/poker runs/weekends/hours of boating have you logged?Sounds like none, so you wouldn't understand.
It sounds to me like you are stuck in some shop. Perhaps your customers don't ever come back, so you wouldn't understand.
Oh yea, life jackets should be worn, not stuffed in the cabin where you you wouldn't know the condition.
Sorry, I don't understand any comments you make. You don't make any sense.
What shop do you work in? Address, phone number? Whose boats do you work on? Boat names? Boat history?
Boat owners on this web site surely don't want you working on their boats......
Do even own a boat? Sounds like you don't, so you wouln't understand.
How many races/poker runs/weekends/hours of boating have you logged?Sounds like none, so you wouldn't understand.
It sounds to me like you are stuck in some shop. Perhaps your customers don't ever come back, so you wouldn't understand.
Oh yea, life jackets should be worn, not stuffed in the cabin where you you wouldn't know the condition.
Sorry, I don't understand any comments you make. You don't make any sense.
What shop do you work in? Address, phone number? Whose boats do you work on? Boat names? Boat history?
Boat owners on this web site surely don't want you working on their boats......
06-07-2003 | 09:46 AM
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From: Beautiful Fort Lauderdale www.cheetahcat.com
Tony Boap Roani Mr. Expert
1. How about your own resume?? Any Awards Accolades International recognition?? Must be High performance Boat related….. I was just wondering...About who is Asking, You sound like an Expert. BTW pie eating does not count...
2. Ever Build/Design Anything!! Now "Borrowing/Stealing/Popping/Backdoor a mold or Boat does not count….. You must actually design IT!! Stealing an Aronow (the King) boat is also a BIG Minus on this question.
3. How About Race-Boats, Fishing Boats,Pleasure Boats Gun Boats Patrol Boats Hell A Dinghy’s EVEN … and Development work any...With Military OR with anybody knowledgeable
4. Now for the Last Item and this ONE counts The big Points Tony at the last UIM Sanctioned International Race event you were at….. now get this READ CAREFULLY How Many That is Right - How Many of your OWN DESIGNS and your HAND BUILTS (one offs) were there Racing A(1) B(2) C(3) D(4)
Question # 4 I wrote that on a 6th Grade level so you would not have a problem with your reading dysfunction.
If you did not answer Yes Yes Yes and D you are not a real Expert and Gee Wiz and not welcome to the club
1. How about your own resume?? Any Awards Accolades International recognition?? Must be High performance Boat related….. I was just wondering...About who is Asking, You sound like an Expert. BTW pie eating does not count...
2. Ever Build/Design Anything!! Now "Borrowing/Stealing/Popping/Backdoor a mold or Boat does not count….. You must actually design IT!! Stealing an Aronow (the King) boat is also a BIG Minus on this question.
3. How About Race-Boats, Fishing Boats,Pleasure Boats Gun Boats Patrol Boats Hell A Dinghy’s EVEN … and Development work any...With Military OR with anybody knowledgeable
4. Now for the Last Item and this ONE counts The big Points Tony at the last UIM Sanctioned International Race event you were at….. now get this READ CAREFULLY How Many That is Right - How Many of your OWN DESIGNS and your HAND BUILTS (one offs) were there Racing A(1) B(2) C(3) D(4)
Question # 4 I wrote that on a 6th Grade level so you would not have a problem with your reading dysfunction.
If you did not answer Yes Yes Yes and D you are not a real Expert and Gee Wiz and not welcome to the club
06-08-2003 | 12:31 PM
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"steve"
once again, you are unable to talk the truth.
Once again all we see is mumbo jumbo.
Perhaps its best that you just don't reply. Or don't you have anything else to do?
You make no sense on any points
And bye the way, any club you belong too is of no interest to me,
or any other real person.
What are you afraid of, steve?
once again, you are unable to talk the truth.
Once again all we see is mumbo jumbo.
Perhaps its best that you just don't reply. Or don't you have anything else to do?
You make no sense on any points
And bye the way, any club you belong too is of no interest to me,
or any other real person.
What are you afraid of, steve?
