41 Apache in Grand Haven MI
 

Anyone know this boat or its history? It is for sale by a guy named Tom Gentry.

The boat is supposed to have original gel coat and paint, and C&G 572'2 naturally aspirated (one has 60 hours, other has 120 hours) and rebuilt #3's with 40 hours.

The name is "subtle approach"

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thanks kageman for posting this for me. i took your advise & signed up to OSO. i hope somebody out there has some history on this 41.
i went to see the boat 2 days ago. i think he said there have been 4-5 owners, he having owned it 2 times. i know that it has been in connecticut at some point in its life. i can barely make out a port of somwhere in CT on the transom from a prior painting. also i can read "painted by benny" on the side towards the back. everything looks to be original as the owner said it was. original gel & paint work, interior, engines & drives[all rebuilt], & a new trailer. we did not go in the water or start the engines, because we were all on a short time schedule. also the fairing is off & he is making a new one that is more laid back. so here are my questions:
1. anything on an apache that is a problem area?
2. how do i ck the fuel tanks to see if they are leaking or have been repaired/replaced? the fuel tanks are under the floor i assume, none in the engine comparment. this seems to be an area of concern from what i have read on OSO.
3. how do i tell if the engines are really "C&G"? not some backyard rebuild shop. he suggested i call "Randy" at Cobra & he will verify everything.
4. what do i listen for or feel on the 3a drives? they are the large prop shafts. if we go forward & reverse it's OK?
5. any "apache" things that should be here like, the plaque in front of the passenger on the dash that says "national & world champions" with the indian head in the center. there's also one as you walk into the cabin on the left next to the radio of the indian head. anymore?

any suggestions or thoughts will be greatly appreciated by us. i really don't want to make a huge mistake here. boat looks real good, but looks sometimes are deceiving. thanks for all your help.
steve

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I thought I had just seen a thread about this boat (it only had 1 reply though.): http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=85759

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It was the best reply I have ever got.

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Gentry brings alot of boats in to Michigan from Florida.....usually trades on new Cary's, his father in law is a wheel for them. Sorry dont know any history on the boat.

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All 41 pleasure boats have to have there tanks replaced, plane on 5 to 10 grand.3 A's are a great drive make sure they have not been switched for 3. With your hand on the prop spin it back and forth if it fells smooth you maybe okay if you feel any any problems you will have to have a rebuild and maybe a new gear set. $$$$

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What is the easiest way to tell a "3" from a "3a"?

Thanks,

Bryan

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The propshaft on the 3 is smaller than the 3A

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3A's have the same prop shaft size as a #6 which good size.

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If they weren't side by side, how could the unfamilliar tell?

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I just measured my #3 propshaft diameter. It is 1.25 with 19 splines. The measurement taken is the outside diameter of the propshaft at the splines right after the threads.

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Thanks Cig,

Now how many on a 3a?

19 vs ???

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26 splines on a 3A SSM

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Thanks guys

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I think I called about this boat when it was in NJ last summer. Once motor was seized and the other hadn't been started for a while. Not sure if it is the same boat but I spoke to DanL's brother.

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a 41 apache runs good 850hp an #6 drives.

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This boat was owned by a board member who now owns a 28 saber. Post this question in the general forum and he may see it. NK

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used to be owned by Jay Vanderwoude. contact him at east belting towing in grand rapids michigan

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east beltline towing 616-942-5210 - do they still have the old wave hippie boat?

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no, he has a different 28 Saber now

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Hey Steve that isn't true the #6 is slightly bigger than the 3A and 5 you have to run the prop bushings accordingly. The 6 bushing will fit on the 3a but the prop will walk back and forth causing an ill handling boat.

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Yes it does low to upper 80's depending on set up

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Thank you O'wise one. How have you been? Steve