Thats what I'm thinking. Or maybe Raylars kit. I do like warranties on new motors though and really like the closed cooling of the 496.

Lets see if I can get this deal done.

I Love my 36 with HO's, I can see 70-72 on my speedo everyday. The room and the ride is awesome. I ran with a 35 last weekend with HO's. He had 8 people and 1/4 tank of fuel I had 4 people and was full of fuel he was pulling me by I would guess 2 mph my speedo was not working. He was running 4600 rpm's and needs to be propped. I like the looks of the 36 better and love the lay out compared to the 35.

I think you should think about it very rationally. It is nearly a three year old boat. (2007 models will be out by June-July, I think) Look at what a used 2004 is selling for compared to your final buy price. You will be selling a 2004 when the time comes and no one will care when you bought it, just how many hours and current condition. If there is only a $25k difference to go to a new 35, you should consider it seriously and also shop other dealers on the price of a new 35. There can be more than a $30k difference from one dealer to the next on a boat that size. On a new factory ordered boat, you have the freedom to pick the graphics, equipment and configuration tailored exactly to your taste.

I have a 2005 40 Outlaw with twin 496 HO's, love the boat. We just put CMI headers on it and no mufflers, we did 66 (GPS speedo) on a 10 minute test run last week, nearly full tank of fuel and three adults, full gear. With the CMI headers, I believe we honestly picked up 3-4 mph over stock with mufflers. In the right conditions it should be 68 - 69 capable, as is. The best we ever did without the CMI headers, on GPS was 65.2, but that was two aboard, 1/4 tank and minimal equipment. So judge what a 35/36 will do reflecting on those numbers.

I'm happy with the performance because we need size on Lake Michigan. You may however be disappointed coming down that much in speed.

Good luck!

BRET, did your boat come from Wisconsin by any chance?? i think i used to work on your boat......we sold a 36 O/l with HOs last summer it ran 70 on gps regardless of fuel/load. if you are happy with your 33 i know you will like a 36....

Yes, I came from Rod Dash at Performance Marine. Boat was originally from Iowa. He was great to me but I understand that later he was put in jail for the same thing National Marine was doing.

I have looked and the 04 prices are about what I will be paying for this boat. I don't know if I like the 35 (have Never seen one except in pics) I know I like the 36. Also, I can't imagine that the 35 will ride better than the 36, especially with the huge pad on the keel. It probably rides like the old fountains with the straight bottoms. This was how they used to get speed from their hulls. With a pad you lose some of the deep Vee ride advantage for the sake of speed. It's like riding on a flat surface i.e. less deadrise. I do like the cabin in the 35, I have no need for a bed and the fiberglass is an easy cleanup with kids. Ever try to vaccuum up soggy Potato chips from the cabin floor?
I don't really care too much about resale, I plan on keeping the boat until the depreciation levels off. At a certain point these boats go tho about 70K and seem to stay at that price.
Anyhow, boats are definatly not an investment and if you look at them that way, how can you enjoy them?

Brett,

I almost boat that 36 last November. Instead I went with a 2004 342 that Fox Chapel had. The guys there couldn't be nicer and more professional - Pete, Jay, Ron, the whole gang are great.

Their service and support has been incredible and the deal went through painlessly. I just chose the boat with a few more options - that 36 didn't have A/C or TV, etc....but it was a very nice boat. I just thought, living in Pittsburgh, it was a little too "Steeler-y" with all the yellow & black...

I ran head to head with a 36 with 496 HOs down. It ran almost 70 in 2' chop. That was with CMI headers. If you can deal with your new boat going slower than your old boat, do it, because you will be getting a great newer boat that rides better. But if speed is all you want, you will have to spend lots more $$$ just to get to where you are now...

buy my 36 with 500's

Well,
Deal is done. I hope to pick it up this weekend. Can't wait.
The bank I used requires Coastgaurd Documentation, So please help me name it. I was never any good at it so I never named any of my boats.
Oh,
I own a taxi company and the boat is yellow......

"the meters on"

congrats, that is a sweet boat!