mpally

I haven't seen one boat with black motors selling for a $20-$30 K discount over the boats with blue motors. That is my whole point here. Why would anyone buy a 36 Outlaw with 496's over a 36 with 500efi's when the price is within $5k?

JasonSmith

They would be retarded to not buy the same/same boat for only $5k diff.

liquid asset

I see both points and have spent many hours in boats with both motors, and have been in both when they broke, and have also seen both in excess of 500 hrs, I had a pair of 454 mag efis that only lasted 100 hrs, but it was salt, and already coroded the exhaust and caused basiclly 2 rebuilds for me, I know the blue will have more maint cost but doesn't that always come with more performance, Anyway, my next ride will prob be a 36 with 500's

Rippem

not in a Baja anyway

JasonSmith

W.T.F? Because they are worth more in a Bayliner?? I don't understand the basis of your comment.

Magic Medicine

I have a 500efi under my hatch I have owed a boat with a 502 efi and a 502 carb. I just plain do not like the 496's probably because of the less than desirable internals, doesn't leave you much choice if you ever want to supercharge. My 500 just turned over 300 hrs and it is running strong. I have to say the midrange is excellent. I feel more confident running it hard than I ever felt with the black motors. I like the fact that the oil temps stay cool after hard passes vs the stock black motors heating the oil up quickly with their small oil coolers. Most of the guys that I know with 500's or 525's run them hard and I have yet to see them have any problems.

I guess the main point wether your motor is black or blue, if you want it to last. You have to keep up on preventative maintence, oil changes etc, and try to control your throttle hand, this is harder for some people.

Rippem

don't be offended...

but if that's what your finding in the used Baja market, than that's what your finding. You tell ME why that's the case?

Shop identical same MY used Fountains and Formulas with black vesus blue and tell me the spread isn't 20K give or take depending on how old the boat is...

Rippem

it's perception only that they are not well engineered to last.

Now subject to modification? probably not. this would be another factor in anyone's choice. I buy 'em to run 'em as is. Here in NNY the season is too short to be down. Been there, done that. This is not my first boat, it's my 6th, and I've done the modified power thing before with mixed results and continue to see others doing no boating within the 90-100 days of really nice weather we have.



gospel.

mpally

Where have you been the last couple of days? That is my original question. Go back and read my original post.

So does Merc charge less for the blue motors if they go into a Baja?

Rippem

I'm out. your missing the point, and getting offended. I'm not making the rules. Just study the used market as I have regularly for the last 5+ years.

Baja is a price point marketed boat new, that takes more comparative hit $ on power upgrade used. It's the niche itself that makes them popular that is responsible.
and I have nothing against Baja. I've shopped the 36, looked at them and am in agreement that they are alot of boat for the $