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socalstone 05-23-2007 02:38 PM

I spoke with the president of Baja, David Olson. We had a good conversation and we've discussed some very serious options. It's just about resolved I hope. I'll let you know as soon as it's 100%.

boss252 05-23-2007 03:03 PM

Wow you got right to the top. glad to hear they are working with you. I hope all goes well. keep us informed.

socalstone 05-23-2007 03:22 PM

I went to the top myself, after a few days of not much progress.

This of course was after 2 weeks of the dealer not even being able to produce a phone number. I could have called 411 at anytime during that 2 weeks, but I wanted to give the dealer a shot at making things right first.

ps- I think jmeng's calculation of "1 mph for every 15hp in that size range" seems right on the mark.

five cent worth 05-23-2007 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by socalstone (Post 2138041)

This of course was after 2 weeks of the dealer not even being able to produce a phone number. I could have called 411 at anytime during that 2 weeks, but I wanted to give the dealer a shot at making things right first.

Is this the "local" CLT Baja dealer? Moving to Huntersville in July and was planning on keeping my boat there. You are scaring me...

CMC 05-23-2007 09:32 PM

socal, I'm glad it is working out. I hope my info was of help.

socalstone 05-23-2007 10:24 PM

CMC, thanks, yes it was helpful -I'm sorry to hear you had issues, but glad to hear you "won your battle". I would prefer to not battle with anyone. I just wanted to buy a new boat and enjoy it. Actually, at this point in time I don't feel like I'm battling anyone -which is good. My issue isn't resolved yet, but I see the light at the end of the tunnel.

socalstone 05-23-2007 10:44 PM

five cent worth- They are the local dealer here on the lake. I haven't heard of any complaints with storage. I'd bet you'll be fine there. From what I've seen they get the boats in and out quickly and efficiently, looks like they have plenty of parking and from what I've heard- they have the best gas prices on the lake.

five cent worth 05-24-2007 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by socalstone (Post 2138632)
five cent worth- They are the local dealer here on the lake. I haven't heard of any complaints with storage. I'd bet you'll be fine there. From what I've seen they get the boats in and out quickly and efficiently, looks like they have plenty of parking and from what I've heard- they have the best gas prices on the lake.

Thanks :D

Dd24skater 05-24-2007 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by CMC (Post 2138538)
socal, I'm glad it is working out. I hope my info was of help.

Glad to here you have some resolution!

Dd

SOX 01-03-2008 06:40 PM

So how did this stroy end? And how is the boat running today?

Baja_man 01-04-2008 08:09 AM

How did things go?

socalstone 01-04-2008 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by SOX (Post 2392375)
So how did this stroy end? And how is the boat running today?

It's running great. thanks. 80 hours or so and zero issues with the motor so far. It runs like a champ and has since day one. Now I just need a faster hull!!!

socalstone 01-04-2008 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by Baja_man (Post 2392908)
How did things go?

In the end it went well... here's the deal....

I got nothing but run around from the salesman at the dealership AND customer service at Baja. So, after two weeks of b.s. I contacted the President of Baja.
He was extremely helpful. A real stand up guy. He apologized for this happening and made my situation a priority with customer service.
Within a few hours there were a number of options available to me, including replacing the engine at the dealership.

However, at that time, my only contact at the dealer was the salesman -who turned out to be a complete tool.
So my attitude toward that dealership was I didn’t want them touching anything, let alone performing an engine swap on a 600sci. So I said thanks, but no way.

Also, during that time, I spoke with a number of people at MercRacing and was gaining confidence that the motor was most likely fine.
I knew they were built to be run hard and I knew they were run hard on the dyno immediately upon first fire...... but it was nice to hear it from the pros.
So, over time my main concern shifted from being pissed at Baja for running my new boat hard... to only being pissed about paying new money for a used boat.

I thought about it for a while and called David Olson again, suggesting we adjust the price of the boat to compensate for the hours, the testing, etc. etc.
They came back to me with a nice offer, I agreed with the number and they cut me a check.


By the way,
That tool of a Salesman moved on and as it turns out, the dealership itself - Westport Marine on Lake Norman - is a great place to deal with!
Everyone I've dealt with there since has been fantastic! From Jamie in sales, to Shannon in service, to Keith in warranty to the guys & girls around the marina and pumps
they are all great people and I enjoy dealing with them. I would highly recommend Westport to anyone.

BrettM 01-04-2008 11:10 AM

I love hearing about stories where the involved parties work things out! I am glad it worked out for you!

Dave Olsen is a stand up guy from what I have seen. I think he will be a great leader for Baja and continue to grow the company.

Baja_man 01-04-2008 11:55 AM

So what are the numbers you are seeing?

five cent worth 01-04-2008 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by socalstone (Post 2393057)
By the way,
That tool of a Salesman moved on and as it turns out, the dealership itself - Westport Marine on Lake Norman - is a great place to deal with!
Everyone I've dealt with there since has been fantastic! From Jamie in sales, to Shannon in service, to Keith in warranty to the guys & girls around the marina and pumps
they are all great people and I enjoy dealing with them. I would highly recommend Westport to anyone.

I'll second that. I rack store there and they have been pretty good to work with. They scratched my boat pretty bad when putting it away last September and had it fixed at there own expense in two weeks. :circle:

They did all of my warranty work with no questions asked and they weren't the dealer that I bought it from.

There gas is pretty reasonable too...

baja bailey 01-04-2008 12:24 PM

Glad to see it all worked out for you.. That is a sweet set up..

socalstone 01-04-2008 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by five cent worth (Post 2393297)
I'll second that. I rack store there and they have been pretty good to work with. They scratched my boat pretty bad when putting it away last September and had it fixed at there own expense in two weeks. :circle:

They did all of my warranty work with no questions asked and they weren't the dealer that I bought it from.

There gas is pretty reasonable too...

five cent, I'm glad you've had good experience with them. I know I probably sounded 50/50 on them at best last May, but it turned out to be only because of that tool salesman who no longer works there. Westport Marine is top notch.

We'll have to hook up next summer! Welcome to Charlotte.

socalstone 01-04-2008 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by nebraskabaja (Post 2393185)
I love hearing about stories where the involved parties work things out! I am glad it worked out for you!

Dave Olsen is a stand up guy from what I have seen. I think he will be a great leader for Baja and continue to grow the company.

Thanks man. yeah, it's a shame it happened in the first place, but with people like DO around making things right, I suppose it all balances out in the end.

socalstone 01-04-2008 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by Baja_man (Post 2393263)
So what are the numbers you are seeing?

OK I haven't figured out how to get more than one quote into a new post.

I've seen a best of just a tick over 80. like 80.1 or 80.3 that was solo with light fuel and good chop. The reality is upper 70's. With 4 guys and plenty of fuel I've still seen 77-78.

There may be a little more there. I've only tried 2 and a half props so far. (the one that came with the boat is barely worth mentioning)
I can't imagine seeing anymore than another .5 - 1mph with continued testing. So for now it's fine..... but who knows.. a couple of Wildcard's tricks and maybe she'll run 85!

SOX 01-04-2008 03:27 PM

So would you recommend this boat set up this way to anyone else. Seems to me the $/mph may not be too good. You mentioned yourself about getting a faster hull. I like the boats and was thinking of a similar set up but ordering a 26 with the 375hp motor and pulling it immediatly and swaping it with a Raylar 625hp. I think that may be substantially cheaper than a 600 sci.

Rob

five cent worth 01-04-2008 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by socalstone (Post 2393352)
We'll have to hook up next summer! Welcome to Charlotte.

First day on LKN was the LKN Poker Run. Happen to run across you guys for the last three stages. Tagged along in the back. Saw your boat along with Dock's. Only recognized your boats from the photos on here. They look awesome!!

Your boat looks great! Congrats on that rocket! See you this summer!

socalstone 01-05-2008 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by SOX (Post 2393632)
So would you recommend this boat set up this way to anyone else. Seems to me the $/mph may not be too good. You mentioned yourself about getting a faster hull. I like the boats and was thinking of a similar set up but ordering a 26 with the 375hp motor and pulling it immediatly and swaping it with a Raylar 625hp. I think that may be substantially cheaper than a 600 sci.

Rob


I would recommend the 600sci any day. But you can get so much more speed out of other hulls.

The raylar plan sounds like a good one for the money. But I wouldn't do a new 26 if you are going to yank the motor and tweak. There are so many great deals out there right now on used boats, I would shoot for a used 26 if you can find one, or a newer 25.

New 26 with a 600 is pretty pricey, but that is all motor of course.
My situation worked out well in the end- net motor cost equated to only a 525efi upgrade, but I also had to go through hell with Baja which spoiled much of the excitement of getting a new boat.

SOX 01-05-2008 03:44 PM

Thanks, I appreciate your honesty and your recommendation.

AIR TIME 01-09-2008 10:35 PM

glad to hear things worked out, so what prop are you using now , a 28 b1? my 26 b1 at 6000rpm I hit 83,2 gps with about 50 to 75 gals. going to try a labbed 30 get the rpms down to 5400 to 5600. it sounded great at 5800 to 6000 but, parts will last longer at lower rpm, the 2'' shortie helped me a lot and wild card likes the box with the 3''. so what wheel you running.

socalstone 01-10-2008 11:39 PM

Running a labbed 30 from bblades now.

The boat came with a labbed 28 B1. (didn't order the labbed prop).
Poor bow lift and no top end, would be on the rev limiter with very little trim added. Was pretty sure it would spin a 30 so I got one. Turned out to be a little too much prop.

Borrowed a regular 28 and that worked pretty well - had more bite and bow lift. Considered buying one, but since I had already purchased the 30, I sent it (the 30) to bblades to lab. It helped. Maybe 100-150 rpm down from the reg28 but better speed. It could be tweaked further,
but for now it's fine.


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