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Sydwayz 07-21-2008 10:51 PM

So, just to be clear, the hull is laid up in the mold. But there are NO stringers (wood or synthetic) laid down and fiberglassed into the actual one piece structure of the hull.

Then a liner is lowered into the boat, with "adhesive" between the bottom of the stringers (which will contact the inside of the hull) which is a solid piece integrated into the bottom of the liner?

RollWithIt 07-21-2008 11:42 PM

Thats how it comes across to me.

TWIN-SPINS 07-22-2008 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 2630758)
So, just to be clear, the hull is laid up in the mold. But there are NO stringers (wood or synthetic) laid down and fiberglassed into the actual one piece structure of the hull.

Then a liner is lowered into the boat, with "adhesive" between the bottom of the stringers (which will contact the inside of the hull) which is a sold piece integrated into the bottom of the liner?

i dont think there are any stringers what so ever,,,,the bottom of the liner make up the stringer system,,,,top of liner is what you stand on,,would like to see a picture of the bottom if anyboby has one

BAJA WILL 07-22-2008 08:39 AM

Without getting very technical, we know the models that had problems with the liners, and yes BAJA stepped up and took very good care of those customers, thus why you don't hear them on here ranting about their experience!

Tristar, the Hammer X, or H2X models you are looking at, you will break long before the boat does, seriously. I know you keep on about the new Pachanga, last I spoke with Searay HQ 3 months ago, they had no plans to put into production. Even if they do I know the BAJA FPB, version will smoke it in components, weight, graphics, and ultimately speed.

Doc,
I do not think you will see any more McCleod in Baja, just doesn't make finicial $$ for FPB.
Ingel, graphics will be gone, but you can get colored Gel with graphics, and I believe will be cleared over like all FPB.
As for Baja emoployee?? I am not sure, my business partner, Johnny Ford, is at Fountain today I will ask.
Stringer and liner, FPB, has built both, Reggie makes it clear that he likes the stringer system better. However models that were proven to be great success, why change??

Hope some of this helps

WILL

Tristar Racing 07-22-2008 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by BAJA WILL (Post 2630989)
Tristar, the Hammer X, or H2X models you are looking at, you will break long before the boat does, seriously. I know you keep on about the new Pachanga, last I spoke with Searay HQ 3 months ago, they had no plans to put into production. Even if they do I know the BAJA FPB, version will smoke it in components, weight, graphics, and ultimately speed.

It seems like they are doing a lot of work to not release the boat, I mean its well known the hull mold is in Florida, and it was sent down with a plug for the deck.

I don't doubt you, as I have heard rumbling of new Pachangas in years past only to be disappointed, but again it seems like the boat is quite far along to not release.

And yes, I'm aware the Baja will outrun the Sea Ray and have better components. Its more about nostalgia to me with the Pachanga. Time will tell I suppose.

TEAMBAJA 07-22-2008 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by BAJA WILL (Post 2630989)

Tristar, the Hammer X, or H2X models you are looking at, you will break long before the boat does, seriously.

A 100% true statement. Ask me how I know. :crazy:

Sydwayz 07-22-2008 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by TWIN-SPINS (Post 2630956)
i dont think there are any stringers what so ever,,,,the bottom of the liner make up the stringer system,,,,top of liner is what you stand on,,would like to see a picture of the bottom if anyboby has one

If this is the case, I can see why some hulls have had problems. The hull needs the reinforcement and rigidity of stringers glassed into it to make one piece; not the liner. This is the case no matter how thick you make the hull; solid or cored. (On fiberglass boats--epoxy and carbon fiber are different animals altogether.)

I'm sure whoever designed this system put a lot of engineering effort into it. But I just don't see how one could have faith in this being a solid offshore boat with said construction.

Dock Holiday 07-22-2008 10:51 AM

Fountain Powerboats adding 250 jobs in NC
Tuesday July 22, 10:43 am ET
Fountain Powerboats will add 250 new jobs in North Carolina county to build new boat line

RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) -- A North Carolina motorboat maker will add 250 jobs over the next five years at its company headquarters in Beaufort County as it builds a new boat line.
Gov. Mike Easley announced Monday the $12 million expansion at Fountain Powerboats Inc., located along the Pamlico River.

Fountain will expand to begin building the Baja boat line that it purchased earlier this year from Brunswick Corp.

The overall average wage from the new jobs will be $35,800 plus benefits. That's more than the Beaufort County average of about $28,000 annually.

Easley's office said the company could receive up to $2.5 million in incentive grants should it create enough jobs and sustain them for 11 years under an agreement with the state.

BAJA WILL 07-22-2008 12:46 PM

Damn Doc you beat me to it:ernaehrung004:

TWIN-SPINS 07-22-2008 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 2631080)
If this is the case, I can see why some hulls have had problems. The hull needs the reinforcement and rigidity of stringers glassed into it to make one piece; not the liner. This is the case no matter how thick you make the hull; solid or cored. (On fiberglass boats--epoxy and carbon fiber are different animals altogether.)

I'm sure whoever designed this system put a lot of engineering effort into it. But I just don't see how one could have faith in this being a solid offshore boat with said construction.

i dis agree todays epoxy fiber is stronger than wood stringers,,,no rot isuse either,,its all new techology,,,,that where the furture is going,,,i think formula uses it also


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