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mittens 02-06-2009 10:57 AM

pop up bow light
 
Ok, my Baja 252 bow light is allways in the way of the anchor line, and it finally broke the plastic chrome cover off. thinkning about a pop up stainless one. 100-140 bucks

anyone put one on? howmuch do i have to cut on the fiberglass. work well? is there a better one to go with so the hole line up or anything?

Dock Holiday 02-06-2009 12:16 PM

From what I can tell there is not much work required to install them. It appears that you just have to enlarge the hole a little which is pretty easy.

Call Mike Mayes at CP Performance and talk with him about them. He is a very good guy and will give you a good price.

Doc

Hot Tub 02-06-2009 01:27 PM

Hey Pontiac:

Let us know how it goes. I looked at doing the same on my 25 Outlaw; but, there is a recess that the Perko light sits in. Looks like I'd have to do some fiberglass/gel coat work to make it fit.

Mike

obnoxus 02-06-2009 02:27 PM

I have installed many here ,,,,,, the old ones required a template and saber saw,,,,, the new LED style mount in a circular hole drilled with a hole saw,,,, much easier !!!

Padraig 02-06-2009 04:29 PM

Make sure you have enough clearance for the drain cup and you will also need to run a drain through the hull. or at down to the bilge. The light is not sealed and water will come through.

Dock Holiday 02-06-2009 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by Padraig (Post 2794574)
Make sure you have enough clearance for the drain cup and you will also need to run a drain through the hull. or at down to the bilge. The light is not sealed and water will come through.

Interesting that's good to know.

I guess if you have a drain in the anchor locker you could plumb it in to the existing line.

XT-Innovator 02-06-2009 10:37 PM

That was the very reason that we went to the split nav. lights on the newer models. Seems like no matter what style single combo light you use, it will always be in the way as the boat moves in the wind.

The only problem with the pop-up light is finding someone sober enough to go to the nose of the boat at night....

XT:eek:

BDiggity 02-06-2009 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by XT-Innovator (Post 2794823)
That was the very reason that we went to the split nav. lights on the newer models. Seems like no matter what style single combo light you use, it will always be in the way as the boat moves in the wind.

The only problem with the pop-up light is finding someone sober enough to go to the nose of the boat at night....

XT:eek:

do they make ones w/ a small motor that will automatically raise up when u turn the switch on? thats what i am looking for to install on ours.

XT-Innovator 02-06-2009 11:18 PM

Accon Marine makes one with the sylinoid, but it will not fit the 252 without some fiberglass repairs. Cost, is also kind of high on that unit. I need to see the new LED style that was mentioned.

XT:cool:

JasonSmith 02-07-2009 08:55 AM

I have a cheap solution for you all.
After you set your anchor, take the line & loop it through the bow eye so you have a loop going through the bow eye. Take that loop up to the cleat & attach like the looped end of a dock line. Voila! You now have solved your bow light breakage problem.

BDiggity 02-07-2009 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JasonSmith (Post 2795003)
I have a cheap solution for you all.
After you set your anchor, take the line & loop it through the bow eye so you have a loop going through the bow eye. Take that loop up to the cleat & attach like the looped end of a dock line. Voila! You now have solved your bow light breakage problem.

my reason is purely for cosmetics. The Cig has super sexy lines but then the bow light just looks out of place & ruins it all. Also need to remove cleats & put some pop ups in, then remove those line holders, or whatever they are called.

pwam1 02-07-2009 09:31 PM


Also need to remove cleats & put some pop ups in, then remove those line holders, or whatever they are called.


I dunno, if you leave the cleats positioned where they are, you just about have to keep the line holders don't you? to keep the lines from chaffing on the boat? Or do you mean to remove the cleats that are there and put new ones near where the line holders are now?

BDiggity 02-07-2009 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by pwam1 (Post 2795384)

I dunno, if you leave the cleats positioned where they are, you just about have to keep the line holders don't you? to keep the lines from chaffing on the boat? Or do you mean to remove the cleats that are there and put new ones near where the line holders are now?

right, move the pop up cleats out to where the line holders are now. that part of the bow is a storage area so no issue w/ the cleat being recessed.

mittens 02-09-2009 06:18 PM

my anchor line is attached to the boat inside the locker, so I can not feeed the line throught he tow hook. plus i have to replace light anyway, so might as well use the one i want to fix other problems. i will run the drain into my anchor locker. So the LED one is the one to go with.

Obnoxous:
does the new hole line up? or am i making new ones for the screws too? also got a link to the correct one? any pics?

thanks going to be ordering and putting in with a few other goodies, TV/dvd, inverter, marine radio and intena.

JasonSmith 02-09-2009 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by pontiac (Post 2796555)
my anchor line is attached to the boat inside the locker, so I can not feeed the line throught he tow hook. plus i have to replace light anyway, so might as well use the one i want to fix other problems. i will run the drain into my anchor locker. So the LED one is the one to go with.

Yes you can. Mine is the same way. I take out 5 extra foot of line, hold it above my head. Take the loop it makes in my left hand from holding it above my head & feed that loop through the bow eye. I then take that same loop back up to the bow cleat & tie it off.

obnoxus 02-09-2009 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by pontiac (Post 2796555)
Obnoxous:
does the new hole line up? or am i making new ones for the screws too? also got a link to the correct one? any pics?

.


No,,,, you have to make new holes,,,,,, gonna give you a trade secret,,,,,, drill the screw mount hole in reverse.

The LED popups are the round install ones.

obnoxus 02-09-2009 08:25 PM

http://www.acconmarine.com/p-57-led-bow-light.aspx

jfm 02-09-2009 08:30 PM

Those are the nice ones. I had to cut a pattern out for the one I have. Wish these where around then.

wantingmore 02-09-2009 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by JasonSmith (Post 2795003)
I have a cheap solution for you all.
After you set your anchor, take the line & loop it through the bow eye so you have a loop going through the bow eye. Take that loop up to the cleat & attach like the looped end of a dock line. Voila! You now have solved your bow light breakage problem.

See XT's comment about the sober one at night...:ernaehrung004:

mittens 02-10-2009 01:41 PM

drill in reverse?

like drill from inside the boat to the out side? would not thing you could get the drill in there.

or just spin the srill in reverse so it does not bit into the fiber glass so hard?

Dock Holiday 02-10-2009 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by pontiac (Post 2797204)
drill in reverse?

like drill from inside the boat to the out side? would not thing you could get the drill in there.

or just spin the srill in reverse so it does not bit into the fiber glass so hard?

A trick I learned on "Ship Shape TV" years ago.

Always put your drill in reverse and let it kind of grind away the gel coat first. Then put it back in forward and drill the hole. The gel coat is brittle and if you are too aggressive drilling straight into it the gel coat will chip and you have a big mess.

Just put the drill in reverse and put it where you want the hole and pull the trigger and when you have a cupped area in the gel then it is safe to drill.

Sorry I don't know how to explain it any better.

Good luck

mittens 02-10-2009 06:20 PM

I understand now. Sping driull bit in reverese slowing making the inset, and then drill. Will do, need to order.

Dock Holiday 02-10-2009 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by pontiac (Post 2797401)
I understand now. Sping driull bit in reverese slowing making the inset, and then drill. Will do, need to order.

10-4 Good Buddy

Good luck with the project and let us know how it turns out.

I also like to put a large piece of masking tape over the area and drill right through it.

mittens 03-02-2009 12:55 PM

SO i have the bow light from accon, like the one in the link, but its is not going to fit very good on my 252 so i am returning it to accon and getting htem to send me this one.

http://www.acconmarine.com/pc-110-5-...bow-light.aspx

I will let you know how it goes.

BDiggity 03-02-2009 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by pontiac (Post 2812149)
SO i have the bow light from accon, like the one in the link, but its is not going to fit very good on my 252 so i am returning it to accon and getting htem to send me this one.

http://www.acconmarine.com/pc-110-5-...bow-light.aspx

I will let you know how it goes.

does this one require you to manually pop it up?

mittens 03-02-2009 02:30 PM

yes both do, spring loaded. like a pop up cleat.

you have to go on the bow to pull anchor anyway, I see no need for the motorrized ones other than....hay watch this effect/

Irishtornado 03-02-2009 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by pontiac (Post 2812149)
SO i have the bow light from accon, like the one in the link, but its is not going to fit very good on my 252 so i am returning it to accon and getting htem to send me this one.

http://www.acconmarine.com/pc-110-5-...bow-light.aspx

I will let you know how it goes.

Definately let us know how it goes. I tried the original light and it wouldn't work due to form of topdeck, but I'd like that one if it'll work..

boss252 03-03-2009 08:23 AM

Just tagging along. I have a 252 that I did the same thing. popped the light right off. I have been wanting to put a pop up in it's place. Please let me know how it goes. Pictures would help too.

mittens 03-20-2009 10:28 AM

Ok, so both the accon marine parts 210-m, and 211-m are two big for a baja 252. The 252 has a slight indention on the nose and both lights would bolt on the high parts of the deck leaving gaps and looks bad. So looking for other branda os pop up lights. I KNOW someone makes one that fits because i alomost bought another 252 when looking for one that had one that fit great. IDEAS?

boss252 03-20-2009 11:00 AM

Well that sucks. I really wanted one for my 252. did you measure the ones you had and do you know what the size needs to be? Thanks for the update

mittens 03-21-2009 08:57 AM

yea the spot is about 3' wide by about 3.5 long. but as you know it is not 3 wide a thte very front. its a triangle with sides shap needed, but smaller.

JasonSmith 03-22-2009 10:17 AM

So, you are back to my original suggestion of looping the anchor line through the bow eye?

BDiggity 03-22-2009 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by JasonSmith (Post 2826479)
So, you are back to my original suggestion of looping the anchor line through the bow eye?

i am thinking these. http://www.livorsi.com/catalog/rigging1.htm#elliptical

Mount them up on the side of the fairing. I dont use an anchor, thats what your boat is for. :ernaehrung004:

mittens 03-23-2009 03:37 AM

but then i have to cut new holes. and fill the old one and the indention in the glass. would look cool though


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