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Old 02-12-2009 | 10:34 AM
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It has to be from the H2X, even the side vents are the same,

Now that being said, it looks great, H2X was a great boat for Baja

What is the $$ on this bad boy??
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Old 02-12-2009 | 11:12 AM
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Here is a 99 H2x that is for sale here on OSO







And the New Checkmate ZT 244

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Old 02-12-2009 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Dock Holiday
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- 67 That do not like it that own a Checkmate

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Old 02-12-2009 | 11:54 AM
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Well the rumor that CM got the H2X mold is obviously true. Still the boat looks great, I like it. I don't understand all the CM people that are 'appalled' that CM might use a mold that has Baja origins.

Although it might have been a good idea to re-tool the molds or put some inserts in during lay-up to at least change it a little bit.

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Old 02-12-2009 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Dock Holiday
We all have our opinion and like you I am sharing mine and only my opinion.

Are you the spokesperson for 67 people?
I can be appointed for the spokesman of the die-hard Checkmate owners. Dock I don't really want to get in a pissing contest with you.

I will agree the boat is built good and with the hand laid glass-work the quality is their of a Checkmate and the gel coat looks awesome in person I was surprised.

But it aint no Checkmate brother, just like sticking a Chevy emblem on a Ford you cant change what it is

It should be called the " RETRO H2" by Checkmate
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Old 02-12-2009 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by c_deezy
Well the rumor that CM got the H2X mold is obviously true. Still the boat looks great, I like it. I don't understand all the CM people that are 'appalled' that CM might use a mold that has Baja origins.

Although it might have been a good idea to re-tool the molds or put some inserts in during lay-up to at least change it a little bit.
I'm wondering if they could have possibly acquired the 29 Outlaw mold also...

I like the boat and yes it is all BAJA built by Checkmate, just like the new Baja's that are built by Fountain.. I think the graphics are a little blahh but hey all in all it looks OK!!!!!
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Old 02-12-2009 | 12:51 PM
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I am not here to bash Baja boats I am just a Checkmate guy defending our boats. We buy what we like and it would be no different then taking a Checkmate Convincor hull and putting a Baja sticker on it.

Here is some info for people that don't know.

Bill Combs started Checkmate boats in the sixties and sold Checkmate to Doug Smith this past year. Doug Smith was the founder of Baja boats or bought the company shortly after they started. I here 10 different stories on how Doug started and I dont know which one is true. The Brunswick corp bought Doug Smith out.

And this new Checkmate/Baja is a Doug Smith creation not the original founder of Checkmate Boats Bill Combs.

All Checkmate Boats to this day since the sixties are hand laid fiberglass. And correct me if I am wrong Doug Smith is the one that brought chopper guns to Baja

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Old 02-12-2009 | 12:54 PM
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I'm wondering if they could have possibly acquired the 29 Outlaw mold also...

I like the boat and yes it is all BAJA built by Checkmate, just like the new Baja's that are built by Fountain.. I think the graphics are a little blahh but hey all in all it looks OK!!!!!
No.

Check out the graphic on the deck. Much better than plain white.

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Old 02-12-2009 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by PURPLE HORNET
I can be appointed for the spokesman of the die-hard Checkmate owners. Dock I don't really want to get in a pissing contest with you.

I will agree the boat is built good and with the hand laid glass-work the quality is their of a Checkmate and the gel coat looks awesome in person I was surprised.

But it aint no Checkmate brother, just like sticking a Chevy emblem on a Ford you cant change what it is

It should be called the " RETRO H2" by Checkmate
I'm one of those 67.....PH only has to account for 66 more
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Old 02-12-2009 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Sidewinder-Boats
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Check out the graphic on the deck. Much better than plain white.

Yes I agree it does look better than plain white..

I think they should have made some changes to the molds before producing the boat just so that it could be called a Checkmate not a Baja built by Checkmate!!!!

I can see where the loyal Checkmate people could be a little miffed about the boat since it does look exactly like the H2X with minor changes!!
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