29 outlaw/302 boss
08-05-2009 | 08:41 PM
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I like the 302 better especially with the extended swim platform.
However, this is a good deal and seems to be in your area if you are in OH:
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o29605-en.html
However, this is a good deal and seems to be in your area if you are in OH:
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o29605-en.html
08-06-2009 | 05:50 AM
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From: Cincinnati , Oh
I like the 302 better especially with the extended swim platform.
However, this is a good deal and seems to be in your area if you are in OH:
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o29605-en.html
However, this is a good deal and seems to be in your area if you are in OH:
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o29605-en.html
08-31-2009 | 07:45 PM
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Few more pics and some info on it...
2003 Baja Outlaw
twin 496 HO's 240 hours
2 amps 6 speakers
gafrig gauges and controls
docking lights
drop down bolsters
no tears in upholstery
2 extra sun pad covers
extra curtains for v berth
cockpit cover
full cover
3 axle steel trailer
new tires
$55,000.00
Matching truck available also call for details
(810) 689-4746
2003 Baja Outlaw
twin 496 HO's 240 hours
2 amps 6 speakers
gafrig gauges and controls
docking lights
drop down bolsters
no tears in upholstery
2 extra sun pad covers
extra curtains for v berth
cockpit cover
full cover
3 axle steel trailer
new tires
$55,000.00
Matching truck available also call for details
(810) 689-4746
09-01-2009 | 10:55 AM
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From: Northern, KY (Cincinnati) Lake St Clair, MI Norris Lake, TN
Let me start by saying I really like both boats. I think they have a lot to offer as far as space, comfort and ride quality. In my opinion the most boat for the money in the 29 - 30' range. They can both be had for great deals right now.
After owning both now and getting comfortable with my new 29, I can say I like the ride and handle of the 29' better. Both are 1999s and equipped identically with 7.4s. The Outlaw is faster. It also does not have a tendancy to porpoise as the 302 did. My 302 also would list a little to port. I would have to trim the drives seperately to flatten out the ride (not a huge deal).
I have heard these boats share the same bottoms. I do not believe this. The ride is different in my opinion. The 29' feels better balanced. I thought the 302 felt like it had more weight in the back and didn't fly as well. The stringers, hardware and wiring appear to be "tougher", for lack of a better word, on the 29'.
I absolutely hated the swim platform on the 302 (not extended). I love the one on the Outlaw. I wish the Outlaw had the cockpit space of the 302. It's a noticeable difference.
Cabins - roughly about the same. 29' may be a little longer, 302 may be a little taller. I didn't have the galley in my 302 and never wanted it. I don't overnight much. Without the galley you can fit at least three more strippers down there!!
After owning both now and getting comfortable with my new 29, I can say I like the ride and handle of the 29' better. Both are 1999s and equipped identically with 7.4s. The Outlaw is faster. It also does not have a tendancy to porpoise as the 302 did. My 302 also would list a little to port. I would have to trim the drives seperately to flatten out the ride (not a huge deal).
I have heard these boats share the same bottoms. I do not believe this. The ride is different in my opinion. The 29' feels better balanced. I thought the 302 felt like it had more weight in the back and didn't fly as well. The stringers, hardware and wiring appear to be "tougher", for lack of a better word, on the 29'.
I absolutely hated the swim platform on the 302 (not extended). I love the one on the Outlaw. I wish the Outlaw had the cockpit space of the 302. It's a noticeable difference.
Cabins - roughly about the same. 29' may be a little longer, 302 may be a little taller. I didn't have the galley in my 302 and never wanted it. I don't overnight much. Without the galley you can fit at least three more strippers down there!!
09-01-2009 | 11:34 AM
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After owning both now and getting comfortable with my new 29, I can say I like the ride and handle of the 29' better. Both are 1999s and equipped identically with 7.4s. The Outlaw is faster. It also does not have a tendancy to porpoise as the 302 did. My 302 also would list a little to port. I would have to trim the drives seperately to flatten out the ride (not a huge deal). Never experienced the listing issue mine does porpoise, but mainly due to the weight in the cuddy I'm guessing it doesn't allow the boat to keep the bow up...I'm having my bottom blueprinted and adding extension boxes with shorties this winter.
I have heard these boats share the same bottoms. I do not believe this. The ride is different in my opinion. The 29' feels better balanced. I thought the 302 felt like it had more weight in the back and didn't fly as well. The stringers, hardware and wiring appear to be "tougher", for lack of a better word, on the 29'. They do share the same bottom layout, but with the 302 having the built in swimplatform. I think you are correct in saying the 302 has more rear weight for what reason I haven't figured out? It seems to sit in the water deeper even when docked. I guess I don't see where the stringers are tougher, but maybe your referring to the engine mounts? I do have the HO's and hydraulic steering so alot of things are probably different and maybe design is different from 99 to 03?
I absolutely hated the swim platform on the 302 (not extended). I love the one on the Outlaw. I wish the Outlaw had the cockpit space of the 302. It's a noticeable difference. The built in swim platform on the 302 was a pure design flaw IMO should've designed it like the 342 or 272 or designed a bolt on one like the Outlaws. I have the extended platform and personally can't stand it, but keeps you from falling on the drives. The cockpit space is "alot" better in the 302 as well as cuddy space. The 302 is mainly a entertainers boat versus a "offshore race" boat.
Cabins - roughly about the same. 29' may be a little longer, 302 may be a little taller. I didn't have the galley in my 302 and never wanted it. I don't overnight much. Without the galley you can fit at least three more strippers down there!!I notice a big difference in room in the 302 vs 29OL more headroom and more creature comforts, but if all your doing is sleeping in there or "playing with strippers" then both are about the same. The headroom alone is where I like it I'm 6'0" and bending over all the time sucks!!!
I have heard these boats share the same bottoms. I do not believe this. The ride is different in my opinion. The 29' feels better balanced. I thought the 302 felt like it had more weight in the back and didn't fly as well. The stringers, hardware and wiring appear to be "tougher", for lack of a better word, on the 29'. They do share the same bottom layout, but with the 302 having the built in swimplatform. I think you are correct in saying the 302 has more rear weight for what reason I haven't figured out? It seems to sit in the water deeper even when docked. I guess I don't see where the stringers are tougher, but maybe your referring to the engine mounts? I do have the HO's and hydraulic steering so alot of things are probably different and maybe design is different from 99 to 03?
I absolutely hated the swim platform on the 302 (not extended). I love the one on the Outlaw. I wish the Outlaw had the cockpit space of the 302. It's a noticeable difference. The built in swim platform on the 302 was a pure design flaw IMO should've designed it like the 342 or 272 or designed a bolt on one like the Outlaws. I have the extended platform and personally can't stand it, but keeps you from falling on the drives. The cockpit space is "alot" better in the 302 as well as cuddy space. The 302 is mainly a entertainers boat versus a "offshore race" boat.
Cabins - roughly about the same. 29' may be a little longer, 302 may be a little taller. I didn't have the galley in my 302 and never wanted it. I don't overnight much. Without the galley you can fit at least three more strippers down there!!
I notice a big difference in room in the 302 vs 29OL more headroom and more creature comforts, but if all your doing is sleeping in there or "playing with strippers" then both are about the same. The headroom alone is where I like it I'm 6'0" and bending over all the time sucks!!!
09-02-2009 | 10:03 AM
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From: Northern, KY (Cincinnati) Lake St Clair, MI Norris Lake, TN
Irishtornado,
I'm headed up your way this weekend. My parents have a place on St Clair (one of the canals on the north side off Anchor Bay). I haven't decided if I'm bringing the Baja or not. It's about a 5 hour tow with a 1/2 ton SUV and they already have a 21' Trophy center console up there. I may save some gas and run their boat for the weekend. Where abouts do you run around up there?
Tim
I'm headed up your way this weekend. My parents have a place on St Clair (one of the canals on the north side off Anchor Bay). I haven't decided if I'm bringing the Baja or not. It's about a 5 hour tow with a 1/2 ton SUV and they already have a 21' Trophy center console up there. I may save some gas and run their boat for the weekend. Where abouts do you run around up there?
Tim
09-02-2009 | 10:58 AM
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Irishtornado,
I'm headed up your way this weekend. My parents have a place on St Clair (one of the canals on the north side off Anchor Bay). I haven't decided if I'm bringing the Baja or not. It's about a 5 hour tow with a 1/2 ton SUV and they already have a 21' Trophy center console up there. I may save some gas and run their boat for the weekend. Where abouts do you run around up there?
Tim
I'm headed up your way this weekend. My parents have a place on St Clair (one of the canals on the north side off Anchor Bay). I haven't decided if I'm bringing the Baja or not. It's about a 5 hour tow with a 1/2 ton SUV and they already have a 21' Trophy center console up there. I may save some gas and run their boat for the weekend. Where abouts do you run around up there?
Tim
You going to Lake Cumberland Poker Run?
