2009's no power on ebay
 

I was just on ebay and saw that Shogren was selling all there 2009 Baja's with no power. Anyone know the reason for this? Just seems weird.

Todd you think your ready to pull the trigger?

Not yet. Patience my friend.

Very strange indeed???? I think the indusrty is getting ready to be turned upside down again????:party-smiley-004:

Interesting. MAybe they can get more $$$ selling seperately.

Be interesting to see what a no pwr new Baja is worth.

They are not even smart enough to change the model in the description, they all say 35 Outlaw in the description. Lazy. They have to find some way to dump these boats out. The Fountain/Baja deal was a huge failure, not may of these boats sold except at give away repo prices.

I think they are making room for the Nor techs.

Thats a little harsh, Fountain/Baja: I believe probably failed because the market for these boats vanished. If they were the only company having problems I may agree, but seriously who isn't having problems, that builds boats in the same price range??

:party-smiley-004:

Since when were Baja's built using a chopper gun?

Just a guess

Only a guess

Dumping hulls because there is no money to finish them and the market is not strong enough for the investment. That dealer is Reggie's go to dealer and I'm sure they are helping him out.

Just like Checkmate is finishing a 36 Pantera.

They are complete boats Dock. They are just selling them less the power they currently have.
One of the 35's (Red/Gray 525 boat) is the boat Powerboat tested.

Maybe a good deal for someone?

The 35 looks like the one I ran around in the Gulf for 100 hrs of my life.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2009-...item1c0f0997ce

Q: Hello, I'm currently a BAJA owner and have resently sold a coulpe of my Hot Rods and in the market for a larger boat and this one is very nice. I was courious why the engines are being pulled and the boat is being sold... Continue reading
A: There is no story with any of these boats. They are opportunity buys and the power is still in all boats. We will sell boats with or without power however they will be sold as description reads on EABY without power.... Continue reading

That boat would be a fun boat to dink around with,
if it could be bought right......just set it up like
our boats are set up;)

You can buy these for around 10 grand or maybe under?

FOR SALE:

One pair of naturally aspirated, GM Mark IV, 496 cubic inch stroker motors, freshly built, '0' hours. I will consider reasonable offers so don't be bashful!

SPECS:

GM Mark IV 4-Bolt Main Blocks
GM Rectangular Port 990 Casting "Hi-Perf" Cylinder Heads
Cylinders were Bored Over .060"
Scat 4340 Forged Steel 4.250" Stroke Crankshafts
Scat 4340 Forged Steel 6.385" H-Beam Connecting Rods
JE/SRP Forged 18cc Dome 4.310" Bore Pistons - 9.8:1 CR
Total Seal Classic Race Rings
Clevite77 HP Main & Rod Bearings
Durabond HP Cam Bearings
Manley Severe Duty Valves - 2.250" Intake/1.940" Exhaust
Comp Cams Xtreme Marine XM298H Hydraulic Cam Kits (254/264 Duration - .575/.578 Lift - 112* Separation)
Comp Cams Roller Rockers
Merlin Marine 4150 Intake Manifolds w/Brass Water Jackets
ARP Hardware and Fel-Pro Gaskets Throughout
Melling HV Oil Pumps & Pickups
Milodon Marine Offshore Oil Pans
and so much more that I am forgetting . . .

These were built to be reliable, fire-breathing 600+ HP monsters for my 35' Cigarette Mistress. I bit off more than I could chew with the project, and wound up selling the hull before it was time to reinstall the engines. They made 613TQ/671HP on my desktop dyno!

These are complete from intake to oil pan. Bolt up your accessories and exhaust and go! I have invested much more than what I'm asking, don't miss this opportunity to let my loss be your gain!

Located in South Florida. Worldwide shipping available!

I'm looking to liquidate all of my odds and ends, and purchase a new boat. If you're interested in the motors, I have photos available, so shoot me an email to: [email protected]

Thanks,

Harry

That is what I was thinking, but that "1" is what is next for me......unless that 35 could be bought really cheap, like $40k or less.

But, it's got great colors;)

I hear ya on the "1"



I'm thinking $25 or less......got to save $$$ for the
broken drive club membership:eek:

jason have you been in one yet or at least looked at them they are really nice. I had a 2007 and know have a 2010 35 and it is hands down a lot better built boat.

I like the way you are thinking. $25k for the boat. Fix that broken drive club membership that's another $30k for SCX's. or $45k for Arneson's.
Hmmmmm, wonder what they can be bought for?
I'd trade my 29, less power & a drive swap plus $$ to be determined.

They made 613TQ/671HP on my desktop dyno!


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Your just kidding...... right?

I've been in the one that Legend Marine has. It is getting ready to have a birthday. I looked at it at the Dallas boat show this past Jan.
That is the boat (35 Outlaw) I'd like to have as far as the 35 Outlaws go.
I'll supply my own power.

you would have a real nice boat if you did put your power in it

[QUOTE=brian41;3015338]They made 613TQ/671HP on my desktop dyno!


I don't think he is.:grinser010:

[QUOTE=brian41;3015338]They made 613TQ/671HP on my desktop dyno!


Maybe at 6500 rpm;)

On second though, I doubt it's got enough
camshaft to do it even up there.

comon guys it was a HP desktop dont you know anything

all the boats he listed with no power are the ones he got over a year ago, has'nt sold one! he has sold a couple from the factory. might have something to do with the fact that reggie took a dealership away from a 30+ year old local baja dealer, and gave it to shogren hummmmm! i just know alot of poeple that won't shop there! no matter what there price is. point being what goes around,:cool-smiley-027: comes around!

NO Story, just trying to sell thru what is left.
 

The reason we are selling without power is because alot of people are willing to put there own power in a boat to save money. ALL of these boats have power in them and the power will not be pulled until the boat is paid for at which time we would be willing to sell the power. We are also willing to sell with power. We are also willing to take trades on these boats if you are interested (boats, cars, etc??). There is not a story, no reason to speculate and you are free to call and discuss if you like.

Regards,

Team Shogren

www.teamshogren.com
847-336-9037

Who Are You WarDawg??
 

I am not sure where you get your information but these boats have not been here for a year and we have sold 10 new Baja's in spite of a poor economy and appreciate those customers that have purchased them. Not sure what you mean "what comes around goes around". The economy is something that NO boat dealer is immune to and we certainly wish we were not but we are as well.

Baja is a good boat and I assume "you" are referring to GSC which is a good dealer that we have respect for.

Just curious who the person is behind the name "WARDAWG"?

Regards,

Scott Shogren

www.teamshogren.com
847-336-9037

Timing is everything!!!
 

Yes, Reggie could not have picked a worse time. Hopefully economy will turn around and Baja sales as well as ALL other brands will rebound but I think the marine industry has about 10-18 months before enough inventory will be cleaned up and OEM's will be in a position to obtain margins and unit sales necessary to run a profitable company.

Regards,

www.teamshogren.com

I would be happy to discuss if you have questions
 

Just looking for opportunities and some people have there own power to install. That's it. Boats all have motors in them and we will sell with power.

I think the dealer would be the best person to ask, if you would like to discuss please call 847-336-9037, I would be happy to answer your questions.

www.teamshogren.com

Partially True
 

Partially true.

www.teamshogren.com

Timing and economy, yes. Failure, no. could always be better.
 

Hacker,

Darn, one word typo and jump on us!!!! Failure or poor economy, maybe you know something that we don't but I am not sure any brand is doing very well but it won't be long until it comes back. Never like it was but it will get better.

Regards,

www.teamshogren.com

my information was from your web site! so what you are saying is theses boats hav'nt been there all year? :bong: and as for who i am, well lets just say someone that was treated like a tire kicker by one of your staff!:Whatever: but hey just my view at things. happy new year. wishing you and yours all the best!

Scott, Thanks for the answers. I guess you have to get creative in this economy. The reason I won't call and ask a dealership a question is because I've dealt with so many liars and bull****ters at alot of dealerships. Not saying all of them, but alot of them. The owner of the dealership I bought my boat from in Wisconsin was a total lying piece of crap. I hope you do sell alot of boats and keep the Baja name alive.

WARDAWG, HACKER and GSC are all the same guy, do a search on Hacker and look at his threads all he does is bash Fountain and bragg about himself, he claims to be a dealer but will never say who he is. I am sure it is Mark at GSC, but he is not man enough to say it.

It will take time, but the economy will come back.
 

Understood and you're right we're just trying to get creative. Baja is a strong brand with a strong brand following and we like you hope it keeps going.

Regards,

Scott Shogren

Wardawg
 

WARDAWG, sorry you feel this way. If someone treated you like a "tire kicker" I apologize. Not sure why you want to hide your identity but I will respect that. Question, do you own a boat? Is there anything I/we can do to help you with a new or used boat?

Regards,

Scott Shogren
847-336-9037

www.teamshogren.com

Fountain/Baja/Nor-Tech

This is kind of what I figured. Making it optional isnt a bad idea.

Feel free to post the reserves here. Maybe someone will be pleasantly surprised and pull the trigger! :party-smiley-004:

EBAY Reserves
 

In the event they do not sell without power on EBAY we plan to re-list at prices more than 25% below "cost" with power. We have had alot of activity on the ones on EBAY and are always open to fair offers. We are prepared to give consumers a GREAT value but trades are affected the same way as our boats in terms of value which makes book prices useless right now. It's not what it's worth but rather what a consumer is willing to pay for it.

The good news, we have seen the market flatten out and come back about 5% the last 30 days. We attribute this to the deals being picked up therefore limited inventories in certain models are any longer available.

Hope this makes sense.

Regards,

Scott Shogren