Need some help... First boat!
 

ok, i'm ready to buy my first baja (and first boat). I am trying to decide between at 275 Boss and a 29 outlaw! I will be boating with my wife and 2 kids, so the bigger boat is more attractive. Any suggestions on single vs twin power for my first boat??

baja did make some 29,s with single engines,,most where twins,,where will u be boating at???

when i carry precious cargo i really like having two engines. its made the difference a few times, lets face it break downs happen. also there is no comparison when manuvering around the docks. you can do soooooo much more with twins.
down side is twice the upkeep, twice the mods when you make them. and twins make twice the noise, that goes either way ie good or bad. bottom line is ive had bolth and ill always have twins... good luck...

Agreed.

I agree with this as well.. as for my feelings about the two boats, I'll pick the 29 everytime. I own a 29 outlaw and my best friend owns a 272 boss, so I have driven both. The outlaw as a bigger usable cabin, faster and rides much better than the 272. Do not get me wrong, I do like the 272, it has about the same cockpit space as mine, sunpad is nice, easy to drive etc. Where it is better is fuel economy and its very easy for me to work on his engine without removing the rear seat. I remove my rear seat everytime I do anything to mine and its still very tight! As the others said, having two engines has gotten me home a few times and I will never own a single engine boat.

If you like the windshiled of the 272 look at the 302.

ok, thats what my thought was. does the windshield on the performance provide alot more wind protection than the outlaw...

Well....yes it does if you sit down and look thru it. I never noticed very much difference between the two boats because I stand and drive, so I am always looking over his windshield. I really never liked the look of the full windshield.....but that's just me! I will say this, if you get caught in the rain, its nice to duck down behind the windshield and drive the 272....in my OL, you just gotta stand there and take it.....:drink:

where do you boat ?

and dont forget,,,, the 29 outlaw is actually over 3 feet bigger then the 275 because of including platform in the 27, but not in the 29

the Boss 302 has almost the same Hull as the 29 Outlaw and a lot more room.

Go with a 29 OL or 302

The nice thing with the windshield is that you can stand and still not have the wind in your face. I have a 280 and I can lean back in the bolster and get my head set so that the wind is just over it. I am just over 6 foot, so I guess if you were alot taller it may not work as well. With the OL the wind is in your face unless you have the deflectors.

It does help with the back seat passangers some, but they still get alot of wind there. The extra room in the 302 is very nice though.

ok cool. I will be doing all of my boating on the great lakes, here in ontario...

I will look on the net for a Boss 302 tonight... I am drawn to the outlaw... im guessing in the 302 you would want twin Mag HO's???

I have a 2000 Baja 342 Boss I am selling, let me know if you would like details and pictures.

Pete

ok another question... from the wife.. the big diff i see in the cuddy from the 29ol the the boss 302 is that the boss has a small kitchen set up... fridge etc... So my question is.. if weekending on the boat, do you really use it, or does a cooler do the job...

Just depends I guess. If it's a working fridge I would use it. I think most people will admit that the cuddy is a catch all for gear, and a bed if you over night.

As a boat for the whole family, the windshield of the 302 is a very nice addition for sure. Both the 496MAG and 496MAG HO are nice boats. Yes, the HO will of course be the faster, but the non HO is not a bad deal either. It'll run high 60s, it's good especially for a first boat. I do personally prefer the HOs. we have them in the cruiser, runs nice, sounds nice and are very easy in terms of maitenace if you leave them alone. Don't worry about upgrades, the internals are not build for this. The day you feel like going faster, get a faster boat.

I have a really nice 2004 29 outlaw for sale with all the options....

I have seen pics of this boat and it is real nice. Also, my 302 has the low white windscreen and no kitchen down below. Longer horeshoe couch. I was set on a 29 outlaw until I saw the 302 and never looked at another 29 after that. Personally, I do not like the winshield on the 302s. My 25 Outlaw also didn't have a wind in the face issue unless I got caught in the rain and then it was a real big issue.

I have a 29 Outlaw and I can usually stay out of the wind. There is a lip at the top of the windscreen that directs it up. Helps that I'm short though, 5'6".

We love our 29, great all around boat. IMO the windshield if you are looking for any sort of protection I would go that route because it does offer more protection from the wind etc (but I'm also only 5'8" on a good day lol) and if you are looking for amenities for the fam, overnight staying etc. the 302's have optional air and gally pack in them vs. the Outlaws that are more bare bones....

You couldn't go wrong with either boat... Stick with the MAG's or HO's (if you can find HO's)... Our 29 with HO's is for sale but not advertised, more word of mouth but it is listed on bajaboatowners.com

Good luck with your search!

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