thanks, I think I will forget shorty's and try props and lab work this summer

Fleg raised his x 3" on his 320 got pretty good gains doing it.

Labbing is by far the cheapest way to get mph. if you run 78 now with non labbed props, M+ props labbed by Bblades should have no problem putting you over 80. Also B1s labbed for bow lift and so on works well. Not as fast, but better all around prop. If it's speed you are looking for, labbed M+s all the way. In terms of non labbed 4 blades, you want to run Rev4s because of the needed bowlift mentioned earlier in the thread.

update: found used imco -2 lowers went from 77 mph to 82 mph and handling is much better at all rpm ranges. Time to get hook out of bottom and have bblades set me up with props

did you use the 23mirage props ??? and did your rpms go up???

used 4 blade 26 pitch bravo ones, 5500 - 5600 rpm

Had you used those props before without shorties? If so what kind of numbers did you see?

yes, the 26 bravos went 77 mph. The only differance was the shorty drives

Nice, can't complain about 5 mph, i've been thinking of putting a shorty on, but i may just use the 25 OL one more summer and look to upgrade to a fountain the following spring. Nice to see a post in the baja forum about speed though!!!!