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Do you need 2 fuel pumps when you add a procharger?

No, but you should have a better than stock fuel system & you should NOT have the pro charger vacuum-referenced fuel pressure booster control for the fuel pump unless you would like to make your pistons into melted aluminum scrap.
You need a large fuel pump, ie: Aeromotive 1000 or equivelant and a vacuum referenced fuel pressure regulator.
Procharger supplies a goofy regulator that increases fuel pressure via the fuel pump based on vacuum and voltage to the fuel pump. This is a proven-to-fail system! The correct way is what I have listed with equivelant parts (SK or Aeromotive)

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I have the factory on the engine i think, and the owner put a holly fuel pump on it also, not sure on the set up, but my mechanic is going to contact procharger and check into it

i am just double checking the work the original owner did and make sure it is correct. so i don't have any surprises, that is alll, i am not a motor guy, just a guy with a little bit of brains to makes sure things are done right

Your mechanic would have better luck contacting a vo-tech school for information rather than procharger. They don't even know their project.

You should not listen to procharger unless you want to build a new motor after you melt it down. Procharger done right will last many many years. Done wrong and well? Your mechanic may say you should listen to procharger because he then will be able to build you a new motor shortly.

Do as Jason says. It will be way cheaper to do it right now instead of later.

Back around the late 70's I called Gale Banks about installing their turbocharger system. They told me that the only people that bad mouth turbos were ones that did not set them up correctly. They then gave me a run down on all the things to do correctly. Main one was fuel system done right.

We need some more information.
Size of motor
compression ratio
type of heads, steel or aluminum.
Size of procharger M1-M5
How much boost are you running
carb or efi,
size of intercooler.

Has the anti syphon valve been removed?

Just notice your post is in the Baja section. If question is not boat related (such as this one) you should post your questions in the technical sectoins. You will get a lot more responses. If Jason would have not seen your post and given you the right informaton you may have been building you a new motor and wondering why it melted down.

The only reason I found this thread was because I had done a new post search.

Call this guy Jason at Kunkels Marine I have had 3 boats with Prochargers and he has done hall of them for me with no problems 419 529 4446.

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2009 502 mag
compression ratio not sure
heads don't know
m1 procharger
i think 5 or 6 pounds of boost
carburated
size of intercooler not sure
anti syphon hose no idea

i have the boat at the marina now having full hydraulic steering installed. i am sending my mechanice the info you guys gave me. The guy i bought the boat from only knew how to put gas in it. The original owner did all the work. I am trying to get educated as quick as possible so i don't damage the engine.

How is this different from the new owner?? :stooges: lol

Well if i bough the boat from the original owner, i would of gotten well versed on the system from him, But I have had very little conversation with the initial owner and he told me what he could remember. I am trying to at least make an attempt to understand the system and to make sure it is set up correctly.

I would make sure timing is no greater then 30 degrees. Make sure the fuel system is like Jason says. Make sure spark plugs are cool-cold ones. List the sparkplug that is installed now and someone will know if that is the correct one to be using.

I think you will be fine. Yes its good you are doing your homework. Remember to run good fresh fuel, 93 octane

I am not sure on the type of spark plugs. THe mechanic has the boat right now and is putting the new steeering on it. I will check with him though. Spark plugs make a difference?

The sticker on the boat says nothing under 91 octane, but i usually use the max octane 93, or the highest at the pump above 91

thanks ,

I am getting well versed with all this vaulable information from all of you. I really appreciate the valuable information.

Thanks jj

ps: my boat engine really appreciates it and my wallet as well

huh you are saying one thing and then saying just the opposite :eekdrop: does the original owner know anything or not

When I talked to the original owner, we didn't go into depth about the procharger. He mentioned a few things but , I didn't ask him becasue I didn't know adding this to your engine was this complicated. After talking to everyone on this site, it made me start to think about the set up. The original owner said he had a man that was into car racing in rochester, put it on for him. After talking to people here, some said you can't trust what procharger tell you to do. It is just making me alittle nervouse. After hearing that , I was thinking who can you trust when putting one on. I just want to make sure my set up is fine and i won't have any problems. After the system was originally put on it ran fine for 2 years. When the owner put it on a new 502 he blew the engine in 1/2 hr. he said his fuel pump **** the bed. After a new engine and fuel pump, like i said the boat ran fine for 2 years. I ran it last year and no problems. I don't do poker runs and i don't race the boat. Maybe i am not pushing it hard enought to have problems. Or there are no problems and i am over paranoid. The owner did not install it himself.

jj

If your Mechanic needs to call Pro-charger for set-up advice find anew mechanic-SERIOUSLY!

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In my area, these type of boats are far and few. My resources are limited. My mechanic just moved to a different marina. The owner at the marina used to race boats and is familiar, with the prochargers and his other mechanic has installed them at that location. Just after reading some of the threads. I am just trying to cover all my bases and not have any problems. So I am trying to do the best i can to make sure my set up is correct. It just seems after reading some of these threads, who do you trust with this type of work. It sounds like even some professional are not reliable. You would think call procharger would be a reliable source since they build them, and know them inside and out, but a thread on here said no, and i talked to a race shop in tenn. and they said they don't know anything. I am just doing my best

I'm not faulting you its just you don't want a mechanic to LEARN on your boat at your exspense. I bought a m-3sc Procharger brand new for my 2000 272 Baja 10 years ago, I have learned it IS true that Procharger tech support is completely USELESS. You could call there 3 times, ask the same question to 3 different guys and every answer would be different and probably NONE of them would be correct. The blower itself is a nice piece, the supporting equipment is not.
Install O2 sensor bungs on your exhaust, have a 02 meter on it and drive it around and watch your afr's, if waay off then have ecu re-tuned or turn fuel pressure up/down as needed IF its rich or lean acrossed the board (never is though), and you will have a safe, decent set-up. Have someone read the plugs after a wot run and see how they look too if concerned, Smitty

I know, i am doing the best i can with limited resources in my area. The new marina has a mechanic that has installed them and someone hooked me up with eddy young the race shop in tenn. i spoke with him and he said he would help my mechanic on the phone. Worse case is that i will have to truck the boat down to tenn to have eddy young do a once over the procharger set up. The boat ran fine all last summer and it ideled like a normal v6. But for piece of mind, i want everything checked. I did not have it installed so i want to make sure it is correct. I will try to contact the original owner and find the guy who hooked it up, but the odds are he won't remember what he did. I do appreciate and my boat appreciate all the free advice you guys give me to make me well informed on the system

thanks

Got a Aeromotive Marine 11108 is the correct regulator 13114?http://www.ebay.com/itm/360594875466...84.m1438.l2649

Thanks!

i have a factorie one on and a holly one too, i am running to fuel pumps at the sme time


thank you, i will have my mechanic put one on