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XT-Innovator 05-06-2012 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by Keith Atlanta (Post 3680608)
So, XT, why did you guys do a rounded keel on the 33/342 and not a true delta pad? I can sort of understand on the 342 as it is a "sport" boat but, the rounded delta on the 33 (which was more of less the one of the fastest)? Why? After you guys made Bobby/Crayola's boat with the pad and wider stakes, why didnt you keep the design for production?

I don't want to name name's on the forum, but Baja had hired a self indorsed "hull designer" around 97' when new models like the 33ol, 29ol, and 232 hulls were designed and he liked rounded delta keels. He was also the reason many of the hulls of that time had the notch in the chines that we called "Speed Rails" that really did nothing for performance and made the lamination work harder.

I was a corporate call not to change anything on the 33 tooling and Bobby's call to push the limits on his boat.

XT

WILDwhenWET 05-16-2012 01:32 PM

XT, Was there any hull changes to the 33OL during its production run?
Any other changes that would make some years better than others as far as performance?

Thanks!
WwW

JaayTeee 05-16-2012 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by XT-Innovator (Post 3680629)
I don't want to name name's on the forum, but Baja had hired a self indorsed "hull designer" around 97' when new models like the 33ol, 29ol, and 232 hulls were designed and he liked rounded delta keels. He was also the reason many of the hulls of that time had the notch in the chines that we called "Speed Rails" that really did nothing for performance and made the lamination work harder.

I was a corporate call not to change anything on the 33 tooling and Bobby's call to push the limits on his boat.

XT


We're his initials GW ?;)

XT-Innovator 05-19-2012 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by JaayTeee (Post 3689137)
We're his initials GW ?;)

:party-smiley-004: MAYBE...

XT-Innovator 05-19-2012 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by WILDwhenWET (Post 3689023)
XT, Was there any hull changes to the 33OL during its production run?
Any other changes that would make some years better than others as far as performance?

Thanks!
WwW

No, just higher "x" and 4 blade props on later models.

XT

Keith Atlanta 05-19-2012 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by XT-Innovator (Post 3691244)
No, just higher "x" and 4 blade props on later models.

XT

Any others floating around with requested design changes like Bobby's?

HOSSMAN 05-20-2012 08:56 AM

I know it's been asked and a little off topic but why was the 29 OL built with the euro rounded look while the rest of the OL's were square and why on the 29's/302's are the hull sides not straight but rather twist when you look down them?

XT-Innovator 05-20-2012 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by HOSSMAN (Post 3691545)
I know it's been asked and a little off topic but why was the 29 OL built with the euro rounded look while the rest of the OL's were square and why on the 29's/302's are the hull sides not straight but rather twist when you look down them?

Only because the 97' 29 Outlaw was the first one designed from a clean sheet and even though it was a big hit at Chicago's IMTEC boat show many of the Baja dealers stated they would rather have the new Outlaws look more like modern versions of the 32 and 24 Outlaw. I think there were renderings done of the 97' 36 Outlaw that looked like a larger 29! We designed more models in 97' & 98' than in any other period of Baja's history.

As far as the twist that you mention I think it is because only on the 302/29 the chine beam on them is narrower at mid boat than at the transom. Any other Baja model they run parallel until mid boat. Have you ever noticed on your 29 if you put it in a hard turn about 30-40 it feels like it flops over on its side harder than it should and if you do this at higher speeds it is possible for it to flop over then stand back level before leaning over again.

WILDwhenWET 05-20-2012 10:34 AM

XT, What year did they go to the higher "X" & 4 blades?

WwW

XT-Innovator 05-20-2012 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by WILDwhenWET (Post 3691606)
XT, What year did they go to the higher "X" & 4 blades?

WwW

I think it was around 2002 but Sea Ray has all the offical information in their files.

XT


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