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slorider 02-19-2013 02:01 PM

I guess i have never seen the back seat set up like that it looks like it is not comfortable with more than two.

offshorexcursion 02-19-2013 02:38 PM

Yes the Kicker fit in the factory holes. I also cut 4 more holes (ahhhhh!)

Nightlife1970 02-19-2013 03:37 PM

If that is a sealed off area you can do alot better than the Clarion. If it is an open area, the Alpine and JL will do a bit better than the Clarions.

If it isn't a sealed area can it be sealed? If you get a good set of 10" in a 1 cu.ft. enclosure you can make some bass. If not, I would not spend the money to upgrade, it wont be that big of an upgrade.

mittens 02-19-2013 03:39 PM

its not sealed. it opens to the side of the hull, and from there it goes back to a wall, with s samll opening at the top where the throttle/shift cables, and wires enter the bildge. going forward it opens up to the side storage compartment. so its a free air kind of job, but some area back there to bounce some noice around too.

Nightlife1970 02-19-2013 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by mittens (Post 3870875)
its not sealed. it opens to the side of the hull, and from there it goes back to a wall, with s samll opening at the top where the throttle/shift cables, and wires enter the bildge. going forward it opens up to the side storage compartment. so its a free air kind of job, but some area back there to bounce some noice around too.

Kind of what I figured. Upgrading to the Alpine or JL's will get you a bit better sound, but it's not a huge jump unless the Clarions are starting to show their age.

mittens 02-19-2013 04:50 PM

I think age and not that good in the first place is hurting them the most. I think a decent free air sub would make a difference. we will see.

offshorexcursion 02-19-2013 10:13 PM

Yes a new free air sub will make a good difference.

Personally I like to run a few middle to high end speaker with near maxed out RMS Watts for the best sound compared to running lots of speakers that are underpowered.

I love my Kickers and this is the first time ever using the brand. Obviously Focal sound great. I also like the sound of the Alpine. JL have a great rep but I personally am not impressed.

Kicker also makes a marine sub aleady in a box you might be able to fit in the side panel. Going to try those in my cruiser this summer.

Nightlife1970 02-20-2013 07:50 PM

Run all speakers at 125% of RMS and all subs at 150% RMS for best sound. The least I would do is match RMS. Running less than RMS is not good for the speaker or the amp, unless you are very disciplined at not running the system into distortion .

Personally the best sounding speakers for the money I have heard lately is the Alpines. As soon as I roast my last set of spares that I bough for my boat I will be switching to the Alpines. JL are way over priced in my O for the sound they give.

mittens 02-21-2013 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by Nightlife1970 (Post 3871742)
Personally the best sounding speakers for the money I have heard lately is the Alpines. As soon as I roast my last set of spares that I bough for my boat I will be switching to the Alpines. JL are way over priced in my O for the sound they give.

this i have head as well.


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