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getrdunn 02-18-2022 09:33 AM

2001 33 outlaw???
 
What to expect from these. Any known non engine issues to be aware of. Are they as good in rough water as claimed. I’d think however have no direct experience with.

tks
john

F-2 Speedy 02-18-2022 10:16 AM

I had one awesome boat , is the SST package ? ride is good 24* bottom mine had 502 mag mpi's huge cockpit nice cuddy with V birth..........some had 4 bolster seating plus the rear bench


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...99946488ea.jpg

Bajagus 02-18-2022 01:00 PM

The 33 is a great riding boat. 3 footers in Lake Huron are no problem. My 1999 will be for sale this spring.

guss

Griff 02-18-2022 01:35 PM

Great riding boats. Huge cockpit and having 4 bolsters is an option.
There were some years that had issues with cracked stringers in the bilge

JaayTeee 02-18-2022 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4821968)
Great riding boats. Huge cockpit and having 4 bolsters is an option.
There were some years that had issues with cracked stringers in the bilge

I never heard of stringer issues on a 33, did on a 29 and they had to add
X shaped bracing underneath the engines on early 36’s

The 33 is a great boat, well balanced, nimble IMO the best boat they made

Griff 02-21-2022 12:56 AM


Originally Posted by JaayTeee (Post 4821989)
I never heard of stringer issues on a 33, did on a 29 and they had to add
X shaped bracing underneath the engines on early 36’s

The 33 is a great boat, well balanced, nimble IMO the best boat they made

I think it was some 98-99's 33's that I read about, but not 100%.
I know a guy at my condo complex bought a used 33 and after purchase found at least one cracked stringer that he had to get fixed, but don't know any details.

getrdunn 02-23-2022 01:35 PM

Tks guys. I saw a used one minus engines for sale and always assumed they were a nice ride in Great Lakes. My 28 challenger was a fantastic ride with the V all the way to the transom. Sacrificed speed but was a heck of a nice ride. There’s no pad on them is there? Only problem I’m facing is the drives not holding up to the power. Bravo 1’s. I’ve got a pair of NA 565’s near complete.

I’ve been in a lot of different boats in the 28 to 42 range and can’t stand the re-entry hard hitting type. 24 V is hard to beat in that length I’d think anyway.

F-2 Speedy 02-23-2022 02:40 PM

no pad notch or steps.........wish BAJA would of built a stepped hull

getrdunn 02-23-2022 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4822666)
no pad notch or steps.........wish BAJA would of built a stepped hull


Good to know and yes step in the 33 would’ve been tits. Wonder what speeds a pair of 725’s would run.

F-2 Speedy 02-23-2022 02:46 PM

probably low 80's, they weight around 8k empty with bbc's, mine ran right around 70..............Speedy weighs less than a 33OL...........lol

thisistank 02-23-2022 02:48 PM

Always loved the 33 outlaws. Great lines, great layout (cockpit / cabin), predictable running. Just all around great boat.


You can always go with SCX's. I know where you can get some ;)

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...c01b1b37c9.jpg



JaayTeee 02-23-2022 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 4822659)
Tks guys. I saw a used one minus engines for sale and always assumed they were a nice ride in Great Lakes. My 28 challenger was a fantastic ride with the V all the way to the transom. Sacrificed speed but was a heck of a nice ride. There’s no pad on them is there? Only problem I’m facing is the drives not holding up to the power. Bravo 1’s. I’ve got a pair of NA 565’s near complete.

I’ve been in a lot of different boats in the 28 to 42 range and can’t stand the re-entry hard hitting type. 24 V is hard to beat in that length I’d think anyway.

They have a rounded keel, not really a pad, not a sharp keel, it’s 24* though


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...b76c17131.jpeg

Quinlan 02-24-2022 05:54 AM

If you need to know Anything about speed or rigging or ??? in a 33 ^^^^^^^^^ is the man.

25OutlawSST 02-24-2022 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4821949)
I had one awesome boat , is the SST package ? ride is good 24* bottom mine had 502 mag mpi's huge cockpit nice cuddy with V birth..........some had 4 bolster seating plus the rear bench


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...99946488ea.jpg

I’m definately loving this 33OL.
I would buy it in a heart beat If I could find it.
It’s the exact setup up I’m looking for.
This is what I have now.
It’s at LOTO.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...ef7863dd4.jpeg


F-2 Speedy 02-24-2022 08:41 AM

I sold that 33 OL to a guy up north MI ? then it ended up at LOTO a few years back, I think it was traded to Big Thunder call Eddie Champion and see if he recalls where it is

getrdunn 02-24-2022 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by JaayTeee (Post 4822748)
They have a rounded keel, not really a pad, not a sharp keel, it’s 24* though


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...b76c17131.jpeg

Anybody recall at what point from the stern the keel is rounded (approx). Pretty amazing how many positive things said about the 33. Surprised me some but that’s great!!!

was hoping for high 80’s to 90 for speed but I get it. The 496/425hp run low mid 70’s???

F-2 Speedy 02-24-2022 10:59 AM

these hulls are not speed demons..................buy one and lets us know...........:boat:

F-2 Speedy 02-24-2022 11:12 AM

here's a good read for speed

https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/...w-fastest.html

thisistank 02-24-2022 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 4822829)
Anybody recall at what point from the stern the keel is rounded (approx). Pretty amazing how many positive things said about the 33. Surprised me some but that’s great!!!

was hoping for high 80’s to 90 for speed but I get it. The 496/425hp run low mid 70’s???

You'd be very surprised how many people started in a Baja and have now moved up to bigger, faster more custom boats. 99% of the people I've ever talked to or read comments from that have actually owned a Baja, don't have much negative to say about them and actually enjoyed owning one. I always laugh at the hater. Most have never owned one.

IGetWet 02-24-2022 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 4822829)
Anybody recall at what point from the stern the keel is rounded (approx). Pretty amazing how many positive things said about the 33. Surprised me some but that’s great!!!

was hoping for high 80’s to 90 for speed but I get it. The 496/425hp run low mid 70’s???

I’d talk to offshorexcursion - Kevin about the 33 outlaw if you haven’t already. He had one pretty built up. Not sure what he saw for speeds or his HP but I believe procharged 502s?

I agree to others mentioning how they’re not as bad of boats as some like to joke they are. They’re the gateway powerboat, but still a very respectable boat for even experienced boaters imo.

getrdunn 02-24-2022 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by IGetWet (Post 4822852)
I’d talk to offshorexcursion - Kevin about the 33 outlaw if you haven’t already. He had one pretty built up. Not sure what he saw for speeds or his HP but I believe procharged 502s?

I agree to others mentioning how they’re not as bad of boats as some like to joke they are. They’re the gateway powerboat, but still a very respectable boat for even experienced boaters imo.

Kevin just an hour away and didn’t realize he had one or forgot. I’ll buzz him. Ride for ride I’d have to guess that was a better rough water boat than his gladiator. Speed no but….

I’ve only owned challengers, sabers and ftns.

kreed 02-25-2022 06:20 AM

John, a buddy of mine has owned a 33 BAJA for the past 16 years. Been on it 100 times and I was always impressed with that boat. Cockpit is the best/biggest I think Ive ever been in. Not a speed demon, but a real nice looking/functioning boat. For the money, you cant beat a 33 Outlaw. The one thing I will say that sucks is, there isnt alot of room in the engine bay to move and work. Its VERY tight in there. A Top Gun is a dream to wrench on compared to the Outlaw.... But as long as you have reliable power...who cares!!

getrdunn 02-25-2022 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by kreed (Post 4822942)
John, a buddy of mine has owned a 33 BAJA for the past 16 years. Been on it 100 times and I was always impressed with that boat. Cockpit is the best/biggest I think Ive ever been in. Not a speed demon, but a real nice looking/functioning boat. For the money, you cant beat a 33 Outlaw. The one thing I will say that sucks is, there isnt alot of room in the engine bay to move and work. Its VERY tight in there. A Top Gun is a dream to wrench on compared to the Outlaw.... But as long as you have reliable power...who cares!!

tks Kevin very good to know. Wonder how they’d compare to the 33 powerplay. I’d imagine similar but I’m thinking a little wider probably? I always liked the looks and size of those also. Don’t see many of them around.

How’d did the 33 ride compared to your Fountain. In 3 to 4’s…

F-2 Speedy 02-25-2022 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 4822985)
tks Kevin very good to know. Wonder how they’d compare to the 33 powerplay. I’d imagine similar but I’m thinking a little wider probably? I always liked the looks and size of those also. Don’t see many of them around.

How’d did the 33 ride compared to your Fountain. In 3 to 4’s…

You need a skater to run in 4's you should know that by now.......:nhl_fight:

JaayTeee 02-26-2022 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 4822829)
Anybody recall at what point from the stern the keel is rounded (approx). Pretty amazing how many positive things said about the 33. Surprised me some but that’s great!!!

was hoping for high 80’s to 90 for speed but I get it. The 496/425hp run low mid 70’s???

It never turns to a sharp keel, it gradually narrows down probably around the the rear seat area, but it is still round all the way up to where it attaches to the top cap.

They run low 70’s with HO’s on average.

Kevins boat and my boat have the poker run/ Simpson netting cabins
I don’t know about Kevin’s, but mine had Decolite stringers, so ours aren’t the average pieces to judge by, these are lighter in the front which help with performance.

I Believe Kevin’s had Procharged 500EFI’s ( probably 750 ?) mine
had modded 575SCI’s that were probably 675, both have Stellings boxes.

I believe Kevin’s boat ran high 90’s mine would run high 80’s to low 90’s.

Are your engines 565 cubic inch or 565 hp ?

F-2 Speedy 02-26-2022 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4822835)

The 35 OL that Gunner mentions in this thread ^^^ runs 118 today

kreed 03-03-2022 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 4822985)
tks Kevin very good to know. Wonder how they’d compare to the 33 powerplay. I’d imagine similar but I’m thinking a little wider probably? I always liked the looks and size of those also. Don’t see many of them around.

How’d did the 33 ride compared to your Fountain. In 3 to 4’s…

Sorry John, I didnt see your reply. Ive never been on a 33 Powerplay but I think the Powerplay is a level or two above the Baja. Many people rave about the Powerplay hulls being some of the best handling/riding hulls. I thinking comparing my 1990 35 Fountain and the Baja Outlaw is a better comparison. pretty close in speed, and the same in rougher water. 4 ft seas you will take some hard hits in the Baja, and the fridge or the microwave may slide out! Hahaha... but in a good 2-3 ft chop, you will be fine cruising along.

kreed 03-03-2022 08:56 AM

Just to clairify, when we see 4ft seas in CT, you are running in long Island Sound (open salt water) and the waves can come from all different directions. So 4 ft seas to me is pretty snotty. I realize many on here run can there 38 ft offshore super boats in 6-8 ft seas all day without spilling their beer, but Im alittle more conservative when it comes to wave height...

underpsi68 03-03-2022 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by kreed (Post 4823598)
Just to clairify, when we see 4ft seas in CT, you are running in long Island Sound (open salt water) and the waves can come from all different directions. So 4 ft seas to me is pretty snotty. I realize many on here run can there 38 ft offshore super boats in 6-8 ft seas all day without spilling their beer, but Im alittle more conservative when it comes to wave height...

I'm a fellow sound boater as well. It can sure kick up, especially in my 29. ​​​​​​​I guess I always call the waves smaller than what most would. I know I would consider a 3ft wave uncomfortable. ​​​​​​​I seen one post that said he was out in 12ft waves in a smallish boat (under 29 from memory). Yeah ok. lol unless they were giant rollers. But than again, it could be lake mead. 😉

Keith Atlanta 03-03-2022 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4822666)
no pad notch or steps.........wish BAJA would of built a stepped hull

They made a couple. "Crayola" a guy in Pittsburgh that use to be on OSO had a 33 with a pad and a notch and heavily built 496's - went north of 100MPH.
I heard there was another one as well but never actually saw it or knew of the owner.

GSE Anthony 03-29-2022 03:50 PM

Love the 33, many say it's the best hull they made. Might not be the fastest but it's a solid, planted ride, not light and squirrely. Tons of cockpit and cabin space. The older ones like mine had a lower X dimension and are a hair slower than when they raised it in I think 2004 or 2006? Easy solution is -2 shorties but I never got that far as it's always been a great turn key boat. Even with the lower X I can hit 75 every day and have seen 77 many times in the right chop. With -2s it may have seen 80. I'm only 540hp/570tq so I think the question about 725 power is likely a 85mph boat, especially with the higher X.

My 33 is for sale.
https://delaware.craigslist.org/boa/...461189901.html
The CL ad has a full description of everything I could think of about the boat and trailer.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dwpcsutwa...Y7u9qRmMa?dl=0
The dropbox link has 65 pictures and 7 videos of the boat.



https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4aa0b86c7b.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...703dd7c1be.jpg



MB856 04-05-2022 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by Bajagus (Post 4821965)
The 33 is a great riding boat. 3 footers in Lake Huron are no problem. My 1999 will be for sale this spring.

guss

It’s spring, is it for sale?

Helmwurst 04-06-2022 06:13 AM

Your boat has held up well ! Looks great and runs great. It should make a great boat for someone looking to get into a nice clean 33.

GSE Anthony 04-06-2022 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by MB856 (Post 4827891)
It’s spring, is it for sale?

Mine is, see above. Thanks.

Bajagus 04-07-2022 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by MB856 (Post 4827891)
It’s spring, is it for sale?

Yes, it is. I haven’t listed it yet, waiting for it to be unburied from the storage barn. Need to take a few more pics.

Guss

MB856 04-08-2022 08:32 AM

33
 
Bajaguss, shoot me a text with some more info and pictures when you can. I am in Wisconsin and looking to upgrade to a 33. Thank you
920-227-5368


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