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nsformula 08-26-2022 07:14 AM

Which Baja for me?
 
Hi folks.

I am looking for a 29-30 ft boat.
I like the Baja style but am not familiar with the various models.
The 30 Outlaw looks to be a redesign over the 29.
Is the 30ft an improvement over the 29.
What does the SST offer over the Outlaw.
Any insight is appreciated.

Wally 08-26-2022 07:36 AM

The SST line was basically an upgrade package....different graphics and came with monster gauges on the dash....the rest was all the same stuff you could get on the outlaws (engine/drive wise etc...)
There may be other things like throttles or k-planes but mostly cosmetic items....

Wally 08-26-2022 07:40 AM

actually did a quick search and found anopther posting on a forum where a guy had the brochure for the 29
here's what it stated for the 99 model year:

Corsa Quick & Quiet II; custom steering wheel; K-planes w/indicators; SST panels with Gaffrig Monster Gauges; White Kiekafer shifter/trim on throttle; Fire Extinguising sys.; White rubrail w/stainless insert; Rubber mat under rear bench; Carpet in cabin; Swim platform/ladder; SST logos; SST graphics; Sunbrella cockpit cover.

F-2 Speedy 08-26-2022 07:54 AM

I dont remember which ones but some of these boats were liner construction not stringer as I remember and some had delam issues, do the research and make sure of what you are buying, good luck....I had a 33 Outlaw and it was a great boat.


EDIT: Found this in a quick search,
I have a friend that has a 2007 26 outlaw and it is doing the same thing. these cracks you are seeing are not cosmetic this is a major deal. dont let anyone touch your boat but searay. you will void your warranty. your guy is spot on about it twisting. You can try to patch and fix it all you want and trust me when I tell you this it will always come back. you have a five year structural warranty and that is what this is. this is a well know problem from 2004 - 2008. 23- 26- 30 -35- outlaws because of the liner:

nsformula 08-26-2022 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4842842)
I dont remember which ones but some of these boats were liner construction not stringer as I remember and some had delam issues, do the research and make sure of what you are buying, good luck....I had a 33 Outlaw and it was a great boat.


EDIT: Found this in a quick search,
I have a friend that has a 2007 26 outlaw and it is doing the same thing. these cracks you are seeing are not cosmetic this is a major deal. dont let anyone touch your boat but searay. you will void your warranty. your guy is spot on about it twisting. You can try to patch and fix it all you want and trust me when I tell you this it will always come back. you have a five year structural warranty and that is what this is. this is a well know problem from 2004 - 2008. 23- 26- 30 -35- outlaws because of the liner:

Wow, glad I asked, those are the years I have been looking at.
I will proceed with caution..
Can I tell by visual inspection?

2003 Baja 29’ Outlaw | Powerboats & Motorboats | Kingston | Kijiji

An 03 29 ft may not have this issue.??
Ignore the price, Canadian listing.

nsformula 08-26-2022 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by Wally (Post 4842837)
actually did a quick search and found anopther posting on a forum where a guy had the brochure for the 29
here's what it stated for the 99 model year:

Corsa Quick & Quiet II; custom steering wheel; K-planes w/indicators; SST panels with Gaffrig Monster Gauges; White Kiekafer shifter/trim on throttle; Fire Extinguising sys.; White rubrail w/stainless insert; Rubber mat under rear bench; Carpet in cabin; Swim platform/ladder; SST logos; SST graphics; Sunbrella cockpit cover.

Thank you.

JaayTeee 08-26-2022 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by nsformula (Post 4842850)
Wow, glad I asked, those are the years I have been looking at.
I will proceed with caution..
Can I tell by visual inspection?

2003 Baja 29’ Outlaw | Powerboats & Motorboats | Kingston | Kijiji

An 03 29 ft may not have this issue.??
Ignore the price, Canadian listing.

As I recall the breaks occurred in the liner in the cabin portion in the sides above cabin floor, they can be seen.

29’s are stringer boats and don’t have the liner issue.

I had 2 29’s and a 33 outlaw, there’s nothing wrong with the 29’s but
if you can do a 33, you would be more happy with it

bencini231 08-27-2022 01:49 PM

I've owned 5 30 Outlaws and never had a issue with any of them, Mine were 04-07 models as well. 04-05 30 Outlaws are faster than the 06-08 30 Outlaws. Also there is only about 2-3 mph difference in twin 496 mags vs twin 496 Ho's in each year model.

F-2 Speedy 08-27-2022 02:31 PM

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Velocity941 08-27-2022 04:07 PM

If you want to come to Florida, I have a 280 Powerquest in the classified section. No reasonable offer refused!!!😁

jetskidrewski 08-28-2022 08:45 AM

The 29OL you posted looks fairly clean. But since the trailer doesn't match the boat, the boat may have previously been stored in the water, double check for moisture in the transom and stringers.

29's were wood stringer boats
30's were fiberglass liner boats, still have wood in areas though
Either way how well the boat was taken care of is important, also early 30's had liner problems, but by 2008 they had been fixed, subtle changes to the tooling to eliminate hard corners,

One nice thing in the 30's is the enclosed head, vs. the 29 the porta-potty is up in the V Birth. Might also want to consider a 302 if you can find one and want more livability (but heavier and slower).

nsformula 08-29-2022 06:48 AM

Thank you for the replies.

I have had a Formula 271 502/B3 for may years and it has served me well.

My criteria for upgrading...

Enclosed head.
Forward anchor locker.
Walk thru windshield
Silent Choice
A bit more space in the cockpit and cabin.
More modern style.
Towable with my existing 10k rated GMC 1500

The boat will be a trailer boat and towed to 4 different lake or ocean areas.
A 30ft boat is all I would want to handle at launches by myself, which is usually the case.

Baja Outlaw 30 | Other | Gatineau | Kijiji

I like the 30 ft Baja and it has an enclosed head. They are also fairly plentiful which gives me a few choices.
I will look into the hull liner issue and get a survey if need be,

The 302 looks like a good option as well.
Superbe baja 302 boss | Powerboats & Motorboats | Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu | Kijiji




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