Baja was a leading producer of performance boats often sold to 1st time users,
now add something that(if operated incorrectly)
can spin out in turns, you’ll (Baja)spend a lot of time in the courtroom.

IMHO the Bucyrus built boats were the best and embodied the "spirit" of Baja. One hopes that some of that magic will be imbued in the new line. One suspects outboard power will be de riguer in keeping with current trends, but it would be nice to see some big power I/Os be offered as well. Crossing fingers this isn't going to end up another "Faja" failure...

Being from Indiana we used to see a ton of Baja's. They did get a lot of people into performance boats, it would be nice to see something besides CC's and OB cats. Well priced OB performance V's with room like Baja's had may sell, IDK.

I think for a lot the OB cats insurance just makes them unaffordable, particularly for newer boaters.

On the step hull riding worst, I think it is more the pad bottom that is on most step hulls.

If all you do is add the steps to a traditional V you still have the V.

Ride in a Velocity that is non step but a pad hull and you will see. The other thing you don't want to do when it gets rough in a pad bottom is slow down, that is when they will beat you up,,,,,, to a point. If its to rough to stay running on top you are going to take a beating and then yes the slower straight V will ride better. But at that point so will a big cruiser

You can't build straight bottom hulls in this day and age. It's such dated tech. It worked for a while in the early 2000's when stepped hulls were just beginning to become the in thing. But Steps are here and here to stay. I respect your opinions and posts @bajaholic but I gotta disagree with your stance on the step v non step (and I own a non step 38 cig). I've been in plenty of step bottom boats and I hate to say it, I'd almost say they run better in big water. The steps create what feels like a cushion of air when you come down hard, the steps induce a flatter natural ride which allows the deep 24 degree hull to cut through big water more efficiently (without dropping tab). I love the ride of a big powered straight bottom boat but a step bottom boat is night and day better all around (speed and ride). Now, is there some mannerisms you need to be aware of? absolutely (don't tuck the drives and yank the wheel!) but overall, baja wouldn't be successful now unless they updated their bottom designs in my opinion. Liability was mentioned above - you design a "safe" stepped hull that isn't as aggressive, it will limit issues. I mean ****, Even your everyday open bow run about has a stepped hull now. This stuff isn't "new-fangled fancy tech"!

I’ve been in a stepped tiger that would on smooth water, not sure if it was the boat or the driver

Also drove a 30 eliminator w 500 efi’s that would if over trimmed, it actually yawed around…..it was scary

I had a lot of seat time on a 38 TS and they ride awesome….they don’t porpoise.

Ive driven a 40 OL with 575’s, they ride nice, but are 10 mph slowe

Scott McCormick of Velocity seems to be doing just fine.

Padraig

Yep, they seem to be doing "ok" I would say and one of the last hold outs along with Checkmate. I'd really like to know their build numbers of offshore style models, but I also see they've ventured out into bay boats and CC's. The old adage "adapt or die" seems to ring true for the vast majority of companies that have survived or folded over the past 30 years, with a few hold outs like Velocity, Checkmate and a couple others. when I say, you can't build straight bottom boats anymore, let me be more specific. You can't introduce a straight bottom boat. Velocity and checkmate and the few hold outs have their customer base and with that, I wouldn't call either company a force in this industry. I'd say, they're hanging on.

The vee hull offshore performance market is tough to begin with. It's all about CC's and cats and outboards these days. You want to bring back a niche market boat with archaic hull design? Cool. Good luck. Baja failed for one reason or another, it's just the simple facts. If they think they can just start making the same old boats again, I'm afraid they're setting themselves up for failure...again. Hopefully they're reinventing themselves and updating their technology. It's the only way I see them surviving. But I am and always have been a fan of baja and I wish them nothing but luck.

What is really going to drive them to success is someone that is actually passionate about Baja and will push to make them successful. Ever since they closed down their factory, they've been mis-managed and mis-handled and it's unfortunate. But personally, I think if they want to be successful, they're going to have to have the perfect formula 1) aesthetically pleasing 2) competitively priced 3) up to date design and build schedule 4) good management. To make a comeback they're going to need to be set apart from their competition, the old formula they used worked for 40 ish years and then, the market shifted, technology shifted, the economy shifted and they failed to adapt and it killed them. Again, good luck to them. I hope they're bringing their A game.

I have owned these boats myself all I can tell you guys the 33 outlaw is the best ride and the fastest boat out of all of them, real honest GPS speed,
they all had equal 496HO engines with the exception of the 32 fountain it had 502 mags, it’s real life experience, I think I know the difference between a a boat that is capable of handling rough water versus a boat that beats the crap out of you but you guys carry on


2005 33 outlaw
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2000 single large step 502mag

I have also owned a few twin step bottom boats, faster ride, but I would not necessarily say a straight V pad bottom boat is less of a good ride