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bikinilover 12-01-2004 06:33 AM

Anybody know this 29?
 
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It is located at Grand Sport Center in Illinois. Just wondering if anyone knows the boats background.

29 OUTLAW 12-01-2004 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bikinilover
It is located at Grand Sport Center in Illinois. Just wondering if anyone knows the boats background.

I saw a 29 with identical graphics on the boat trader about a year ago. Could have been this one. That's all I know.

29 OUTLAW 12-01-2004 10:26 AM

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Take a look at this tread. Scroll down and you will see pics of a boat that looks identical. Could be the same one. What is Grand Sport asking for the boat?


http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...8&page=5&pp=30

bikinilover 12-01-2004 10:54 AM

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Man that sure looks like it. It is even from Illinois. Can you zoom in on reg numbers? I tried and it gets distored. Asking price is $78,900.00

Smitty 12-01-2004 10:56 AM

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Bikinilover--
I live near Chicago and Grand Sport. I can possibly take a look at it if need be. Kinda busy right now, but definitely after the holidays no problem.

Let me know.

I am very familiar with Baja's. I just bought my third one.

Dave

I just looked at the other post and it appears that OSO Pondfather is/was the owner. He lives in Deerpark which is the town next to me. Maybe we can PM him and see if he still has the boat. Alot of times Grand Sport sells boats that are on consignment.

Check it out.

bikinilover 12-01-2004 10:57 AM

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The closer I look at it, it appears to be the same boat. Look at the tree in the background on the two pics.

bikinilover 12-01-2004 11:41 AM

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It doesn't say it is on consignment. If you could take a look at it I would appreciate it. Just let me know when and if you do. Thanks.

Smitty 12-01-2004 04:03 PM

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Bikinilover-- If you are serious about this boat I will go check it out after christmas. I will take some better pics and email em to you.

What is your email address?

Dave

29 OUTLAW 12-01-2004 05:19 PM

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What year and what engines for $78,900.

It doesn't have SST graphics so you will want to check to see if it has k-planes and monster gauges since these items were part of the SST package.

bikinilover 12-01-2004 05:50 PM

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Doesn't have to have SST graphics to have SST package. This one has everything. Its a 2002 with 496 Mags and an Eagle triple axle trailer. Here is the link. It looks clean from here. http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/6/9/76833669.htm

29Outlaw what do you want for yours now?

29 OUTLAW 12-01-2004 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bikinilover
Doesn't have to have SST graphics to have SST package. This one has everything. Its a 2002 with 496 Mags and an Eagle triple axle trailer. Here is the link. It looks clean from here. http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/6/9/76833669.htm

29Outlaw what do you want for yours now?

Sorry but I've already sold mine to another OSO Member. He gave me what I was asking which was $71,500. Mine's a 2001 with 125 hours and has HO's vs. the regular mags.

Don't let my selling price keep you from looking at that boat even though that one has smaller engines and costs a bit more. It's still looks pretty clean and I'm partial to black and red. Anyway, I knew all along that I was giving mine away at $71,500 so I doubt you'll find any 29's with HO's at that price. I didn't have any issues giving mine away because I don't plan on buying another boat so I'll make back the money really quickly - especially since my expensive truck also goes away along with the boat. No boat payment or truck payment equals about $1,400 a month.

bikinilover 12-01-2004 06:34 PM

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[QUOTE=29 OUTLAW]Sorry but I've already sold mine to another OSO Member. He gave me what I was asking which was $71,500. Mine's a 2001 with 125 hours and has HO's vs. the regular mags.

Don't let my selling price keep you from looking at that boat even though that one has smaller engines and costs a bit more. It's still looks pretty clean and I'm partial to black and red.

Do you think it is a pretty good price? I am thinking of offering $74,900.00 for it.

Smitty 12-01-2004 06:38 PM

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If you're ready to buy now I would start the first bid at 70,000. We have snow on the ground here right now so boat sales are dead.

You've got nothing to lose and everything to gain right ???

bikinilover 12-01-2004 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigwavz
If you're ready to buy now I would start the first bid at 70,000. We have snow on the ground here right now so boat sales are dead.

You've got nothing to lose and everything to gain right ???

You talked me into it!! 70 it is!

29 OUTLAW 12-01-2004 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigwavz
If you're ready to buy now I would start the first bid at 70,000. We have snow on the ground here right now so boat sales are dead.

You've got nothing to lose and everything to gain right ???

A private party seller is much more likely to accept a low-ball offer than a dealer is. If Grand Sport is selling it outright they might just tell a low-baller to take a hike. If they're brokering it for someone, then the owner knows he has to give the dealer his cut so an offer of 70,000 means the owner is going to get much less.

Nevertheless, you can still offer 70 but I think if you can get that boat with the trailer for 74,000, it would still be a great deal. That boat probably sold new for over 110,000 only 2 years ago.

thosetwins 12-01-2004 07:55 PM

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There is nothing smaller about those motors both are 496ci's yours just have 50hp per motor which is good for 3-4 mph tops over all....

thosetwins 12-01-2004 08:01 PM

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Also, If that boat sold for $110K in 2002 that guy got took.........70K sounds like a good deal on this boat with triple axel trailer thhough....I stole a SSE 29 2004 with all the goods but that is a rare find unless you know what I know... also partial to black and red thats all i ever have a resale winner :)

liquid asset 12-01-2004 09:38 PM

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That looks like a good looking 29, and eagle trailers are great, I say go get it

mg503 12-02-2004 12:38 AM

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Corey
I have some contacts at grand sport a buddy of mine just bought a loaded 288 sunsation from them Do you want me to ask them for you ?
Geoff

bikinilover 12-02-2004 06:08 AM

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I spoke with Grand Sport yesterday. The guy traded this boat in on a 40 Outlaw. I am pretty sure the person is pondfather on here. If you guys know him, have him chime in here. I have a few questions to ask.

Geoff, if you are close by and have time, go by and look at it for me.

While we are on the subject, how are the interest rates on used boats?

Smitty 12-02-2004 07:19 AM

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With good credit you are looking at around 5.45 for 15 years--Thats with Essex

Steel Outlawed 12-02-2004 09:02 AM

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I'm talking with Scott Financial. They are the people I got the loan for the 25.

http://www.marineloan.com/

GatorDave 12-02-2004 03:36 PM

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Not sure if it's in your price range but our local dealer has a leftover 04 with 498 mags for a reasonable price. They offered it to me last December at $90K including the trailer. They would probably do better now.

JulingtonCreekYachtSales.com

Look under the brokerage/used boat listing.

bikinilover 12-02-2004 09:44 PM

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I am a little partial to red.

My current boat.

pondfather 12-04-2004 02:40 PM

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Bikinilover,

That is my trade-in. If you're interested I can answer any questions. You can PM me.

29 OUTLAW 12-04-2004 04:50 PM

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Hey pondfather,

I’m so glad you chimed in. What’s the real deal in terms of speed in your 29? I know that the X-dimension on 29’s was raised ¾” in 2002 and that 29’s in model year 2002 and beyond came with 26” 4 blade props (if equipped with regular 496’s). Early on I tried stock 26” 4 blades on my 2001 and lost about 3mph when compared to the stock 25” 3 blades that came with my boat. Since my boat is a 2001, it didn’t have the raised “X”.

After my bad experience with those 4 blades, I continued down the 3 blade path and ended up recording a GPS best of 79.6mph in April of 2004 with 27” 3 blades from Houston Prop. I’m guessing when I say that 29’s with the raised “X” (2002 and beyond) would be incapable of running 3 blade props due to difficulties coming on plane.

BTW – your old 29 is the 2nd best 29 I’ve ever seen. Gotta love the black and red.

pondfather 12-04-2004 05:35 PM

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29 OL,

You have to understand that the boat is bone stock, I'm 54 years old (I don't have to impress anyone) and my wife is deathly afraid of chine walk. Having said that we have had the boat up to 70 GPS with a full tank on very smooth water. My boat came with 4 blades. As far as Black and Red goes, this boat was a perfect match to my "old" 2001 H2X so when it showed up at the dealer, we were destined to buy it. I would never have parted with it but my wife wants a 40 before we "look too old" to be seen in one.

I am impressed that you were able to get to 79 with HO's.

By the way Bikinilover, If you do talk to me about the 29, be forewarned. You will not have any excuse not to buy that boat from Grand Sport.

29 OUTLAW 12-04-2004 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pondfather
29 OL,


I am impressed that you were able to get to 79 with HO's.


Thanks for the reply and it’s nice to see you’re still into it at age 54. I’m an old fart like you but I’ve decided to step away from it.

In terms of the 79.6mph speed in my 29, it really has nothing to do with me. Houston Prop gave me some killer props, the water was just right, the air temp was just right, I had fresh motor oil, and the end result is that I was hauling a$$.

bikinilover 12-04-2004 10:19 PM

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Pondfather, Send me an email [email protected]. I am not set up for PMs and I don't feel like figuring it out. Thanks!

bikinilover 12-08-2004 06:38 AM

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Well, could not come to an agreement with Grand Sport on the price, so no 29 for me. It really was not the price on the boat it was what they were offering me for my trade. eekk!!

29 OUTLAW 12-08-2004 07:15 AM

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What did they offer you for your trade. I was offered 71K for mine a few months back as a trade.

Madmax 12-08-2004 07:22 AM

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My experience with buying a boat from Grand Sport was very good. In fact, my brother-in-law also bought his boat from them. However, because their prices are low (translated realistic), they won't give you squat for trade in. We found them to be SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than Hawkeye, however, you need to be boat-free and ready to drop money when you walk in the door.. Both of the boats we bought from them were spotless.

I would guess if you have a 25, it will sell fast. Put it up for sale by yourself, you might be suprised... That boat at Grand Sport has perfect graphics. If I was looking for one, that would be the one I would buy. It's beautiful.....!

bikinilover 12-08-2004 02:04 PM

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29, Lets not go there, it was ugly.

Madmax, That might be what I have to do. I need to do the math and see if it is worth it, "tax wise".

29 OUTLAW 12-09-2004 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bikinilover
29, Lets not go there, it was ugly.

Madmax, That might be what I have to do. I need to do the math and see if it is worth it, "tax wise".


Come on!! Fess up!! I’m always complaining about the secrecy surrounding boat prices. All that secrecy only helps the dealers and the builders. If more of us shared info about what we paid, what we got paid, what we were offered, etc., it would benefit all of us and help to turn the tables on the dealers and builders. I’m not embarrassed to admit what I paid for my boat, what I was offered for my boat, what I sold my boat for, etc. I’m just trying to do my part to educate all of us so that the money-hungry dealers and builders don’t always have the upper hand like they have for years.

bikinilover 12-10-2004 06:57 AM

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45K! Dealer here in TX offered me 50K.

Steel Outlawed 12-10-2004 07:15 AM

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Does the dealer in TX have anything desireable in stock. Josh at Shadracks in Tennesee has a nice 30 with HO engines and heritage trailer. You might give him a call and see if he is interested in your boat. I know he don't have any 25's right now. I test drove that boat about a month ago and man that is a very nice boat.

29 OUTLAW 12-10-2004 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bikinilover
45K! Dealer here in TX offered me 50K.

Thanks for sharing the info. I think for trade-in offers, 45K is borderline but 50K is pretty good. Consider that I was only offered 71K for a boat that’s 4 feet longer and has twice as many motors.

bikinilover 12-10-2004 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Steel Outlawed
Does the dealer in TX have anything desireable in stock. Josh at Shadracks in Tennesee has a nice 30 with HO engines and heritage trailer. You might give him a call and see if he is interested in your boat. I know he don't have any 25's right now. I test drove that boat about a month ago and man that is a very nice boat.

My dealers Baja inventory just got sold to Marine Max. There goes the good deals. I tried to deal with them in Houston once and man they were high on there boats and would not move. I might check out Shadracks 30. False River Motorsports in Louisiana has one for a real good price with HOs as well. The joys of shopping. I noticed in my new Powerboat Magazine that Baja is going to do rebates or 3.99% financing after the first of the year on in stock boats. Might have to wait on this!!

imartin 01-04-2005 05:34 PM

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PONDFATHER: I would like to speak with you if possible. I am at [email protected] or 713.443.7683. Thanks.

Steel Outlawed 01-04-2005 08:39 PM

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Cory I will e-mail you the pictures of the 30 at Shadracks tomorrow. I have a ton of them where we test drove it.


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