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slobaja 03-31-2005 08:37 AM

Tabs on 25 outlaw
 
I have a 2001 25 outlaw that came with a 496.I have always had to run the left tab 3/4 of the way down to run level regardless of load.I have now put a blown 540 in it with standoff and 2 inch shorty and it still does it.Anyone know if I mount new tabs different if it would help or any other solutions?Also size/brand?

Bill 3 03-31-2005 11:07 AM

Re: Tabs on 25 outlaw
 
Mine always did the same thing and blaming the wife for too much weight on the port side is not recommended :D

I always blamed it on prop torque and or the torque of the motor causing the listing. I had a freshwater tank for a transom shower that I mounded on the stbd side and I usually placed the cooler behind the drivers seat to make up for the need to run tab.

Dock Holiday 03-31-2005 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by slobaja
I have always had to run the left tab 3/4 of the way down to run level regardless of load.

That is a LOT ( 3/4 way Down). Not sure I have ever ran my tabs down that much.

I have found that true deep vee's require tabs a little more than many stepped boats that tend to run flater.

I have my indicators marked so I know when the tabs are level with the hull. I think it is about 1/8 to 1/4 down.

If we are loaded wrong, or there is a wind I use the tabs to level the boat, but usually when they reach that point where they are even with the hull it is all I need.

I can see where a blown 540 could give you a little torque steer, but I would guess you may have another issue with your hull.

There was a guy on here some time back with a 302 I believe that had to send it back to the factory for work. Was also leaning real bad.

Good luck

Dock Holiday 03-31-2005 11:35 AM

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One last thing, I use to have a 272 and have had four buddies with 25's and have never seen that problem, at least no that bad. More like I described above.

GatorDave 03-31-2005 12:44 PM

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I've got an 04' 25 Outlaw and don't notice a problem running level. I rarely have to use any tab and only when it's rough out.

Other than the leaning problem how does that 25 run with a 540? I've got to remember now to race you if I see you out on the local water :eek:

articfriends 03-31-2005 05:36 PM

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Slobaja,how do you like the 2" shorty,i am also running a blown 540 in my 2000 272 baja and i have considered using a shorter lower unit as i run 4 blade props and boat only goes fast in max trim position with about 20 % slip(i run 85 mph on gps w/max trim at 5600 w/30 pitch lab 4 blade). Thanks for your input,Smitty

mwdill 04-01-2005 05:30 AM

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blueprint the hull,i had a friend that had the same problem on a 25 after they blueprinted the hull that fixed it,they also had big power.

slobaja 04-01-2005 05:52 AM

Re: Tabs on 25 outlaw
 

Originally Posted by GatorDave
I've got an 04' 25 Outlaw and don't notice a problem running level. I rarely have to use any tab and only when it's rough out.

Other than the leaning problem how does that 25 run with a 540? I've got to remember now to race you if I see you out on the local water :eek:

It runs a lot better than the 496- so far only ran up to 5000 which was 83 on gps and had plenty left although I might need to get better tabs and or bpint hull to string it out

Steel Outlawed 04-01-2005 06:07 AM

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I had a 25 Outlaw with 502 and a Whipple and never had any problems with the boat running unlevel.

slobaja 04-01-2005 05:06 PM

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Thanks everyone for the advice. I finally bypassed the Dealer in Jacksonville that has blown me off in the past and contacted Baja.They sound like they are sincere.It will be worth the 2.5 hour drive to orlando to have a dealer that is WILLING look at it. The Jax. dealer was so rude about my rotten back seat that I thought I was going to have to switch to Velocity (who has been extremely nice to me because they actually want my business). I guess you just have to find the right dealer !

Dock Holiday 04-01-2005 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by slobaja
Thanks everyone for the advice. I finally bypassed the Dealer in Jacksonville that has blown me off in the past and contacted Baja.They sound like they are sincere.It will be worth the 2.5 hour drive to orlando to have a dealer that is WILLING look at it. The Jax. dealer was so rude about my rotten back seat that I thought I was going to have to switch to Velocity (who has been extremely nice to me because they actually want my business). I guess you just have to find the right dealer !

SloBaja,

Sorry you have had problems, but you have the BEST boating resources right there in your back yard of anywhere I know of in the country.

1) Kevin Brady - Dell Marine - 904-730-9968
Kevin knows more about boats than most people have forgot. He use to have the Baja line years ago and most recently had Fountain & Sea Ray. When I had some problems Baja let him handle them as a Sea Ray (Brunswick) dealer.

2) One of the BEST upholstery shops I have see in Jacksonville. Racine Designs, Mr. Don Racine. Baja had Don to replace my headliner in the cuddy when we had water damage and Don also repaired the hatch area that was cut oversize at the factory.

3) The absolute BEST fiberglass shop I have every seen is Dave at T & T Fiberglass. Man these guys have been doing it for over forty years, they have done GREAT work for me and a good buddy has his race cat in there now and it is looking AWESOME!

T & T Fiberglass
4801 Bowden Road
Jacksonville, FL 32216
Phone: 733-4788

I take my boat to Jacksonville every winter. These three shops are all first class and can do anything, and I mean anything. Would not be heading out of town. I assume that with your boat being a 2001 model it is out of warranty anyway.

Please call Kevin Brady at 904-730-9968 and tell him Dock Holiday told you to call. I promise you will be glad you did. You can call Don or Dave and tell them I sent you also.

I would have posted this sooner, but did not know your were in Jacksonville area.

Good luck
Doc

FX10 04-01-2005 09:26 PM

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Check to see if your bottom is true. Sounds like you might have a hull that prematurely let go in the mold on one side. It's fairly common. The laminate lifts off the hull mold prior to the stringres and coring go in. It will cause a hook. I've blueprinted a few Baja's with that problem, and they all gained MPH.

Dock Holiday 04-07-2005 10:45 AM

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SloBaja,

Did you get in touch with any of those guys in Jacksonville?

Keep us posted.

Doc

russ 04-11-2005 04:25 PM

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My 252 islander has the same problem. I don't have trim tabs. Going to get some. I think trim tabs should only have to be used if you would have an uneven load or getting up on plane. And I don't have eather of these problems. Even when it is calm out I can always feel a slight lean to the left even when I'm by myself.

One time I had 4 people on the boat when there was some light wind out (hitting on the left side of the boat) and chop and had them all move to the right side of the boat when we were under way and it didn't really change, it still leaned some. With 5 of us that was atleast 1000 lbs on one side.

If there is any wind and chop it's 10 times as bad. Why would a boat lean more when wind is hitting on the left side of the boat but never leans at all when wind is hitting on the right side of the boat.

I've been on alot of Baja's and other boats and never seen one do this unless every one was sitting on one side of the boat.

Sent a Email to Baja I'll see if they call back today. If not I'll call them. Does anyone have a name of a person to talk to at Baja that they know would help?

dsandman6 04-11-2005 07:59 PM

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Iguess i got lucky my 25 runs dead level no problems its just slow but thats another thread


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