That's almost like standing next to your wife in the labor room having a baby and when it comes out it is a diffrent color than you are. Just ain't right!

In this case it was more like going in for a heart transplant, and you were supposed to get a human's heart. When the heart started acting up and another doctor opened the patient up he found that instead of putting in a human's heart, they put in one from a farm animal. Only problem is the old doctor doesn't have any malpractice insurance. As I have come to learn on this forum, he also did the same or similar with other patients. Now it seems he wasn't a doctor at all, but rather malpractice was his intended goal. I think they might put you in jail for that.

I'm not a legal expert but can't this d!ckhead be prosecuted? He's certainly ripped off enough people and I'm sure there's more out there.

I ran into the same thing but with a cabinet maker, He ran with 10K the 1/2 down I paid. Tried criminal charges didn't work because I had "contracted him to do a job" it wasn't like he stole money out of my house. So the only thing else was small claims. I did the small claims thing, max was 6K on a small claims in my state, Went to court, he never even showed up, we won and still to this day I have never seen a penny. Small claims was a joke all they can do is agree he owes the money but they do nothing to get the money collected.

One of the other members he ripped off is working the criminal system now to see what can be done and he has all our info to participate if the DA wants the case. Since he got several people, they might want to pursue it. When it was just me, they weren't much interested, and when it was just me, I was more interested in spending my money this time around on getting what I had already paid for once, in lieu of throwing money at a lawyer to tell me the scumbag was broke and I would never get any restitution unless the law took it up as a criminal matter. It's called throwing good money after bad and somehow I seem to be an expert at doing just that.

I'M AN AZZ TOM? OH, NOW YOU FEEL LIKE RUNNING YOUR DIC-SUCKER?? OKAY NEXT TIME YOUR IN SC, BRING YOUR FAT AZZ BY THE SHOP AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT A LITTLE SCUM BAG I'AM. PUNK AZZ BIOTCH! YOU HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN DICK RIDE THESE MOFO'S ON HERE! 90% OF THESE BIO-TCHES ON HERE DON'T EVEN NOW ME. DANNYS ENGINES DID GO SOUR, IF WE DID'NT OVERHEAT THEM THEY WITH A WATER PUMP FUG-UP THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN FINE, AND AS FAR AS I'AM CONCEREND THE PARTS IN THE BUILD WERE MORE THAN ADEQUATE, BUT THATS AWHOLE ANOTHER AGGRUMENT. TOM, WHY DON'T YOU FESS UP YOU FAT FUGG. YOU PUT THE WRONG FUGGIN' FLYWHEELS ON THERE, VIBRATING THAT THING TO DEATH, YOU BLEW THE WATER PUMP HOSE OFF, OVERHEATED IT SUPPOSEBLY. YOU GUYS HAD WAY TOO MUCH WATER PRESSURE, AGAIN, HAD YOUR HOSES ROUTED WRONG! SAY I'M LYING BIO-TCH!! CAUSE YOU KNOW ITS ALL FUGGIN TRUE!! YOU GOT ONE HELL OF A FUGGIN' DEAL FOR WHAT YOU PAID, FUGGIN DART BLOCK. ALUMN HEADED ROLLER MOTORS FOR WHAT, 9K A PIECE! AND I GAVE YOU THE BUILD SHEET 2-FUGGIN TIMES! SO FUG YOU, AND LEAVE MY SON OUT OF THIS! HE HAD A SERIOUS HEALTH ISSUE LAST YEAR THIS TIME SO DON'T JUDGE MY SITUATION YOU FUGGIN AZZCLOWN! AND YOU GUYS AND YOUR FUGGIN ANOLOGIES ABOUT DOCTORS AND ANIMAL HEARTS, BOTH YOU MOFO'S WERE AT MY SHOP WHEN THE ENGINES WERE BEING BUILT AND SAW WHAT WAS GOING IN THEM. I'M SORRY YOU WERE TOO FUGGIN' IGNORANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT CAUSE SAW YOUR **** FIRST HAND.

I OFFERED TO FIX IT AND YOU OPTED TO TAKE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE SO QUIT THE LEGAL BULL****, YOU HAVE NO FUGGIN CASE, PEROID. AS FOR THE OTHER GUY YOU SPEAK OF, WE ARE TRYING TO WORK SOMETHING OUT WITH HIM, AND I THINK WE WILL BE SUCCESFUL AT THAT. YES, YOUR RIGHT, THEY CAN NOT GET BLOOD FROM A STONE, AND IF PEOPLE THINK I'VE MADE UP MY HEALTH PROBLEMS FOR A BUSSINESS EXCUSE, FUGG THEM TOO. I WILL PERSEVERE. YOUR GOD DAMN RIGHT, KARMA IS A BIO-TCH, BUT I'M OPTIMISTIC THINGS WILL EVENTUALLY WORK OUT.

Mark,

What makes you think I got such a great deal? Because they ran? You never gave me a build sheet, the only thing you gave me was a useless dyno that showed 685hp. Those engine are not within 135hp of that. By the way I paid $22,000. I also sent you a private e-mail asking for the build sheet after this thread started, you were incapable of even responding. So yea your a scum bag. Mark, you set the prices for your work so don't blame others or rip them off for your money problems. FREE BUSINESS EDUCATION: A profit is the difference between price and costs in bringing your product to market. Its not the money in your hand, that other people entrusted to you for parts. The engines still run only I'll have to spend about 6-8,000 to get them to 650-700hp.
Thanks

Just judging from the spelling and grammar .... are you guys sure this isn`t TRIPPLE DIGITS that you`re dealing with ?? :evilb:

I know i am chiming in late, but thank goodness to whoever started this thread that was brought to all of our attention that this dirt bag is out there, and as for the anologies, keep them coming.
its like asking your parents for name brand back to school clothes and getting the big K, then listening to them say they had a huge steak dinner.

this Ahole should be given some of his own medicine the next time he contracts anything to be done for him. go get him guys, i will be here cheering you all on

A Cajun walks into a bar with
A pet alligator by his side.

He puts the alligator up on the bar.
He turns to the astonished patrons.
'I'll make you a deal. I'll open this alligator's mouth and place my manhood inside.

Then the gator will close his
Mouth for one minute.

'Then he'll open his mouth
And I'll remove my unit unscathed.
In return for witnessing this
Spectacle,
Each of you will buy me a drink.'

The crowd murmured their approval.
The man stood up on the bar,
Dropped his trousers,
And placed his big unit and related parts in the alligator's open mouth.

The gator closed his mouth
As the crowd gasped.
After a minute,
The man grabbed a beer
bottle and smacked the
Alligator hard on the top of
its head.

The gator opened his mouth
And the man removed his genitals unscathed as promised.

The crowd cheered,
And the first of his free
Drinks were delivered.




The man stood up again and made another offer. 'I'll pay anyone $100 who's willing to give it a try.'

A hush fell over the crowd. After a while, a hand went up in the back of the bar.

A mechanic that owed customers money stood up
'I'll try it -
Just don't hit me so hard
with the beer bottle!'

[QUOTE=OLSKOOL72;2637463] AND AS FAR AS I'AM CONCEREND THE PARTS IN THE BUILD WERE MORE THAN ADEQUATE, BUT THATS AWHOLE ANOTHER AGGRUMENT. QUOTE]


The parts may have been more than adequate, but they were not the parts I was promised or paid for. Had I gotten what I was promised and what I paid for, all would be fine with me.

Based on what I got the first time around, I'll take a pass on you fixing anything for me. Phuck me once shame on you, phuck me twice, shame on me. Like I said in the previous post, another member is working the criminal side, not me, but he has my information, and if it comes to it, I'll be happy to tell my side to the prosecutor. I have pledged my resources towards completing what you were supposed to complete with the parts you were to supply and in which I have paid you for, with a competent, truthful, factual, marine engine builder, all of which you led me to believe I could get from you if I spent my money with you. We both know how that worked out. It would be great if you worked something out with everyone you gave a phucking to, including me, but I don't think you have the backbone to do that. All you want to do is get on here and call everyone names, instead of standing up and saying you mis-used your customers deposits, and you performed inferior work. If I was the only one with a complaint, it would go largely un-noticed. You've got several customers on here complaining, and they all have very similar complaints, so everyone here knows there can't be that many people with the same complaint against you that are wrong or lying about their complaint, therefore, your coming on and calling us names just solidifies all our cases that much more. I've read the other complaints and stated my own, and its obvious your own rebuttal to all makes you look even worse than if you had said nothing at all. I would only say to you that you could have avoided this whole mess from day one by saying "My health will not allow me to take on this or any job", since you now want to use your health as your excuse. It would have given each of us an opportunity to select another shop to do our work, and we would have all been a lot better of had that happened. You don't have to tell a lie to cover up the truth, but when you tell one lie, you have to tell a million more to cover it up.

Mark -
Since your telelphone service has now been disconnected, it seems that this forum is the only way to contact you. Please be advised that your postings on this site have now been turned over to my legal counsel, and if you did not receive it today, you will be receiving a letter from him shortly. After being handed an opportunity to rectify this situation, you again chose a path of broken deals and broken promises. Consequently, both the civil and criminal matters will now be handled through the Courts.

Lol! That would su**!!!!

Mark you are a classic piece of shiit....weither you want to admit that or not!! :Whatever:You claim you are working all kinds of things but does any of the crap get settled???
You sound like a fugging morron and it sure is apperant that you are!!!! Open up your mattress and give the people their money back- its that simple!!
You sound like a true con man....if your so busy then politely decline the work and keep the present customers happy instead of pissing everyone off with way overdue deliveries....fugg your stupid!!

You guy's don't feel to bad he treats homeless people the same way.

{Originally Posted by OLSKOOL72}
Thats funny you ask. This scuffy old guy comes stumbling in the shop about a week ago, i mean he could of passed for a home-less mountain man or something, tells me he's new to the area, just moved from Chicago, saw the hot rod boats out front and heard some motors, just wanted to stop in, blah-blah-blah, I mean i fiqured this cat is looking for some scrap to haul off for a buck or something. Well anyway, I'm about to shoo him back out the door, when he whips out this stack of photos of all this custom boat upholstry. Tells me he had this 20 man shop for like the past 30yrs, and all he did was boats and custom cars, ect-ect. So we start b.s.-ing a little, and he's telling me he lost everything in a divorce a few years ago and, he's gone through some real rough times, but now he's looking to start a custom boat interior shop here in Wilm,. and do i have any work?? So I show him the old rack seat in my boat, it needs to be all re-done. Guy says, no problem, I can do it, double stuff it, new cover, candy stripe, fat pleats, whatever you want. I'll take it with me and do it. I don't think so, i tell'em, i mean i don't now this cat, and like i said, he looks like he's had a few already today. No problem, he says, i'll take the cover off it now, if thats not a problem, make a new cover, & foam over the week, and come back next Sat, and finish it here in my mobile truck. Cool, come back sat. Well, to make a long story short, this guy rolls up sat. in an old van, no plates, I mean, you had to be here. Anyway, he rebuilds the seat, in the van, takes a few hours, but it comes out fuggin' nice! Seriously, the guy is talented. But the best part was he only charged me $200!!! I know your in Jerz, but it may be worth it to send it down.

Yeah...good point. The cat is an ass!!

Couple of things...
This guy is a poor business man and apparently dishonest but what is wrong with that post?
He pays the guy what he wanted and is trying to get him more work, seems OK to me.
2nd item, I would say that whoever typed that post did not type the posts earlier under that member name.
This post has good spelling and decent punctuation. A few too many commas though.
Makes me wonder.

Wow, is he related to Fred?

You had no problem riding "THESE MOFO's DICK" when you where taking their money did you? (it's kinda like prostitution without the climax)

You had no problem spending "These BIO-TCHES" money.

CLASS my friend....

Best line yet............


Just as a side note, why did all of you out of state guys start doing business with a new shop in the Carolinas in the first place? How did you find this guy?

He was advertising here and on EBAY and in my case he was 75 miles away from me, and said he had been around there for a number of years, and at the time that was the closest shop I could find that would both pull and build the motors. I was pretty new to hi-perf boating, and no one else around here wanted to mess with performance engines. Once I met the guy, he blew me full of $hit and I thought he knew what he was doing, especially since he had a shop full of big block chevy motors and several blowers sitting around when I went there, and I didn't see anyone complaining. So much for that. I found out later that there was an honest and properly equipped shop only 30 miles away, so I went to him and stayed with him while he tested and troubleshot and then ultimately tore my stuff down, only to find I had only gotten part of the product I had paid for, and that it was going to take a lot more to correct the deficiencies. As for anyone else, I don't know where they came from, but I assume they saw the same advertising I did.

Mark call again. Could not read the number as it was blocked

mark, you need to call--all your numbers are disconnected, so go to 7-11 and buy a phone card

http://ascendcasting.com/sides/80ed46f9.jpg

:rolleyes:

abviously he has skipped town, since there is no reply, everyone beware, he is out there and i'm sure he will pop up again and do the same thing.---THAT IS THE REASON WHY I STARTED THIS THREAD IN THE BEGINNING, TO MAKE EVERYONE AWARE !!!!!!!!!!

.... and while you`re at 7-11, check out the ETHICS aisle. You should pick up a big `ol bag of that. :drink:

Lets keep this scum bag low life to the top.

Just to clarify, I didn't get burned by or do any business with this guy. I just can't phucking stand it when someone phucks somebody over and somehow tries to say that it's not their fault.:mad::rolleyes::mad:

He took peoples money, didn't deliver and didn't pay the money back. He deserves to go to jail.......or get a really good azz whippin....or both.

Bleachers, I haven't heard anything for quite a while. Any new developments?

502 to 540
 

Bleachers,

I had ATECO ENGINE AND DYNO SHOP (waukegan IL) build a 502 to a 540 for me this year, they finished it in may as promised and it has ran well with lots of horsepower IN A 28 FT BAJA.

John
Jump_26 Transportation Services

I havent read this whole thing but if anyone needs a good quality machine shop to build them one killer relaible engine heres the guy:
Liefert auto machine
torrington CT
860 482 4533
His name is larry liefert.
He is famous in the GT1 racing world and can build any brand of engine. He does my turbocharged 455 pontiacs. they are stock crank stock 2 bolt block engines that make 878 HP at the crank and I get 2 to 4 years on them.
I have been using them for over 15 years and there are only two people who will touch your engine, larry and his brother eddie.

They are two of the most honest and trustworthy people you'll ever meet.
He was also Paul Newmans engine builder and crew chief.
Paul had the money to go anywhere he wanted and he chose larry for good reason.

He is also relatively inexpensive for the quality of work he does.
Check him out.

Tell him Jeff Sent you

heavyhauler, give me a call:

Still Here
 

Bruce, still here, hav'nt skipped town. Not running or hiding from anyone, not my style. I have not been on this board for months. Why?? so i can read peoples posts, raking my nuts over the coals, from many people here that never dealt or met or know me?? I posted some stupid **** awhile back on here, in my defense, because, just as anyone else, it makes me furious with many false accusations from outside people, that are not totally speaking the truth. I mean its alot more serious on my end, hell machining is how I have made my living all of my life. So now, obliously with what is at hand, engine buildong is no longer possible. But thats beyond the scope of this email. Nobody cares nor wants to hear my problems, and I'm not going into them. We definetly had a year that would have seem science fiction to most. From some very bad jobs gone sour, to a mutlitude of other things. I would love to erase mid-2007 to end of third quarter 2008 from my life, but thats not possible. Unfortunetly 20 years of good or great acomplishments will never erase a handful of terrible factions from this past year. I mean I could go one all day! From death threats on my family and I, to problems relating with local and state law enforcement for some of my business actions. I have had to spearhead all of the above, try and deal with these things the best way I can. Obviously, I don't take "keyboard thugs" writing about my family lighly. Most people that "really" know me. know that I welcome confrontation, but again, here I go. Thats not way I'm posting here, after an absence for a couple months, to show that I'm not a criminal nor a crook, nor related to Fred Cecil or anything like that. I'm an average *******, that in most peoples minds is pretty damn decent machinist, has had some good luck with engines, mainly boats, for a pretty long time, and now having a very bad time. So I'm open to the keyboard lashings, beatings, or whatever I do deserve, if so. But lets me totally clear on whats factual and whats fiction. Bruce, your situation needs rectifing, as I said from day one when you opted to cancel your builds. I'm here, got my phone card from Wal-mart. I thought you had my number, as I called you some Saturdays ago, never heard back from you. Again, I'm sorry for any "personal" attacks I may have made here. Just upset, wishing someone could see things through this end instead of jumping on the band wagon of something that is not as clear as it is being portrayed on me here.

Well, Mark, since you are still here, I'll add a little more insult to your injury. The crankshaft you sent out and had worked for my engine, we decided to have it magnafluxed and nitrided before we put it back, as we were sure you had not had it nitrided, after we found your other discrepencies. It was cracked, so had to throw it away and buy a new one. Apparently your crank shop is inept also.

That BRC was cracked? I'm very surprised. Bobby Warren, Warren racing engines in Clinton NC did that crank for me. I'm amazed he did not find that when he re-ground it. I guess my network of people I deal with suck too if thats so.

LOL!

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