Was thinking that also. If he came on here and confessed, apologized, and offered to make things right, 99 % of us would except it with caution, but I just don't see that happening. Sad really.

Not I. Call me 1%

Right there with ya buddy! :party-smiley-004:

Definitely some truth there for sure. But what fuels the continual flames are the lame retorts, diversions, and subsequent attacks on the prime messengers. This happens on many boards, not just boating boards. If the initial defenses were not so offensive, this would be done by now. Not to mention, the person in question always seemed to be pretty darn proactive in attacking people he thought were FOS. Also pretty judgmental towards anyone he thought wasn't of good character. So perhaps you can see what fans the fires? But the story is intriguing, and the responses have been horrific. So it goes on, and even gets worse.

"Enough to make anyone think"? Possibly on target there.

IMO, take that for what it cost you, this would have ended days ago with a simple I'm sorry or something. How you respond to the bank statement alone is beyond me. And I'm sure there are others that are close to him that actually know more, as if the above isn't enough. The honorable thing would be to give the website to the founders and be gone.

I understand what you are saying, however I disagree vehemently. Chris was the first one to post," out them here and let the board take care of them" Ironic how one would ask for mercy. Search his posts of his "fax bombing" and his lies about what he "would do" and "did do" to people that crossed him. He claims he went as far as to watch the employees confused look as he closed the door and had it padlocked. This is the person that you expect me to have compassion for? Whether or not he did it in those instances isnt the issue, the fact that he bragged about it is. He deserves every bit of venom this forum hands him for his lies. Did he once consider your feelings when he was lying to you. I think not. Look at his story on "internet safety" he brags about having a guy locked up and his wife calling and sobbing. For Christs sake wake up! I see him hawking this thread and I thoroughly enjoy the fact that now people know what a true piece of crap he is.

He deserves every bit of venom this forum hands him for his lies.

could'nt of said it better myself :drink:

Rob, my statement was not about Chris, nor was it about ldd, trick etc... It was merely my observation on these threads in general. I am not asking you to have compassion for Chris.

another interesting story

Towing (non)Accident

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Was helping a friend last Friday, pulling his boat from storage to have some work done on it. We were just south of Cincinatti in N KY, heading North on 75 just before dark.

I see this pickup passing me on the right, moving about 70. As he gets closer, I see he's pulling a huge car trailer. He's swerving all over the road. Since I'm in traffic, I have nowhere to go. As he comes up on me I see it's a couple of dirtbags in a red half-ton Ford. Just as we pass cab-to-cab, I feel him hit me. I look over and the whole side of his pickup was just about sheared off, from the door back. He keeps going, accellerating off and as he does, I get another hit from the trailer fender. So, I get slowed down and off to the side. The damage to the Freightliner- one simulator cap on the front and some scuffed-up lugs. The big-a$$ lugs on the front wheel literally shredded the side of the pickup. I felt nothing more than a nudge- less than a big gust of wind. We were pulling a 40 Excalibur. Had we been pulling the boat with a perfectly legal 1 ton SRW pickup, I can only imagine what would have happened. After getting over being pi$$ed about the guy's hit-and-run, I realized I'm out $70 and get to go home alive, if not 10 minutes late. The truck has now paid for itself and its total operating expenses TWICE.

People get worked up, especially when they read something that upsets them. The CigRacing1 extorsion or the Charity bilking or the Powerboat/Johnson measureing competition or the charlatan characteristics or the condesending know it all charcteristics and so on and so forth. Something in the vile maneuvering angers people and they react and voice their opinion. Can't say I blame them/me.

Here is the actual Police video of that incident........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKnFLPV2yDY

ok..remeber LDD's arrogance about take me to court I don't care..then he got smacked with 500K punitive damages. boy he sure cared then didn't he? he even had the nerve to come on here and say he was sorry. Well he was ONLY sorry because he got caught. How many times can we turn the other cheek to thieves and liars. as I said did those same liars and thieves care about US when they were lying and stealing? The only way that we as a forum to stop them is to let them see we wont tolerate it. A castrated rapist wont do it again will he?

There's an old saying that the cover up is worse than the crime. If he would have owned the check issue he may have been forgiven and walked away with minimal damage.

Sunkin........... -"Vendors License"?
http://scfo.summitoh.net/fiscaloffic...ense090630.pdf

CHRISTOPHER SUNKIN 3475 S. ARLINGTON ROAD 330-896-2535
SACCENTI MARINE AKRON OHIO 44319 06/05/09 441222


If you own Saccenti Marine, you have some type of Apache credibility........

B.S. He is using Bobby's name to make what?? Wonder if Bobby knows he is using his name for a make believe boat business???:eek: I have herd some things about this topic as well!

Here's the screencap of the Vendors License page.
This story should be a good one.

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4...ccentisunk.jpg

he got hit with 500k damages??.....where is that PO_ now?

The boat would probably come with a clear title and pics too for that amount of money !!!:evilb:

It goes to the credibility topic again. What better name to be using than that ?
Thats a vendors license , not a corporate registration.
There is no indication in that document whether he has partners.
If he does, I can imagine they feel as the boardmembers at SOS do.
Disrespected.

I could have told this story regarding what happened at SOS in three paragraphs. You know where it would be right now?
On page 25 of General Discussion.
If I took a pass on the informal call I got from a doctor at the hospital...they would still be out $2650.00.
If Rob told his boat ownership story once, it too would be buried here someplace.
You are the last one that should be making this comment.
As I see it, after watching the story unfold and half the SOS boardmembers quit , after 50,000 !!! views on numerous threads, you JOINED the board to enable the continuation of this crap.
You yourself are the exact reason that people had to act like Rush Limbaugh when delivering this news.
You are still doing it.
What I find laughable is that the point is getting through here with the false ownership of a 1200 dollar phcn motorcycle rather than what he did with SOS members money.
Thats a true measure of absurdity.

Point of fact...............In the middle of this serious topic..you yourself are posting pictures of a fu cking PENGUIN. With a second screen name.
And you, a moderator at SOS have complaints??? PLease.

Actually, current issue aside. WTF ??????????????

NO ROB ......there is no CURRENT ISSUE ASIDE

Shoot the messengers, I dont care.

The hospital thanked me....enough for me.

Hey Rob. (Offshoredrillin)..............Thank You

People wonder why this sh!t happens on here.

Because people dont have the parts to stand up and yell stop.

4 people yelled stop and tried to save SOS with their own money.

They stayed silent when that failed.

While getting the sh!t kicked out of them in a one way barrage of lies , they got called out to tell their side. True friends stepped up and helped them tell it straight.

You didnt listen obviously. Three weeks later, on someone elses site, now you are getting it finally. You are welcome.

You guys might want to go ahead and drop this one. Saccenti Marine is a REAL business and there are REAL people involved other than just Sunkin. Plenty of people here have seen what is going on there.

Where or how the name came about is none of my business and franky I dont give a chit. If any of you think that the business is "imaginary" you are sorely mistaken.

Thats a very good point Tony.

I can imagine how the investors and employees of Saccenti Marine feel now about how Sunkin treated their hard work and investment.
The viability of any current business with Sunkin attached to it cant be very good.
Just another poor group of people that got disrespected.

Thank you for the post.


" Hi Mr. Bank manager, I'd like a mortgage for a new house. I work for Chris Sunkin at Saccenti Marine"



" Dont let the door hit you in the asss"

A real business? What boats are currently being made? I was not trying to bring anything up buy saying what I said, I have never herd of Saccenti Marine, or any boats built by them, except for the Chief boat? A couple of questions for you where is the business located, what models are you currently building, how many orders do you have, and is it hard building boats in Chris's back yard?

By the tone of your post it sounds like you assume that I have a financial interest in SM. I DONT! You also assume that Saccenti Marine is strictly building new boats. Not True. The ones involved can comment further if they wish.


btw: assumption is the mother of all F'ups.

Not assuming anything, just really cant believe any that Chris would be involved with could be real? lets just say his lie's make it hard to believe. Where are you guys located? do you sell parts? or do boat service?

Thanks Tony.
Another good post.

I assumed because Sunkin said so that he owned 14 significant boats.
I assumed that when he was handling charity money that he would do so honestly.
I assumed when he told the boardmembers that 2.0 was almost done in November that it was.
I assumed when Sunkin wrote a bad check to a charity that he wouldnt try and hide the fact with a phony bank statement.

All the people viewing his phony motorcycle pics assumed he was telling the truth.

And most importantly when all this came out from various sources I assumed you would have figured it out by now that he conned you.
I'm now assuming you and Ratickle and Fund Razor still dont get it.

You are quite right....assumption IS the mother of all FKUPS.

If you google street view the listed address, you see a nice pic of the Checkmate boat plant. The mailing addy is a PO box in a strip mall.

Chris is renting the old Checkmate boat plant???

Your mission is now to make me "get" something?

I have the right to think and do what I want. Thinking and doing what I want does not make me complicite in the actions of another. It is not logical to suggest that seeing all of this as bad, on both sides, makes one an "enabler." There is so much bad karma wrapped up in this that most people don't want to touch it. The fact that you are sitting on the internet second guessing what I think makes me think that your goal is something other than protecting my interests.

Talk about Chris if your obssession is with Chris. Go google him some more. I am innocent of any wrongdoing. I never used a "stock" photo to illustrate what I own. I never misrepresented myself. I never lied about who I am, what I do, or what I think. All I ever did was argue too much with a bunch of losers on the internet. You can prove that.

I make my decisions and choices based on what I know from personal experience, not what you churn up on the internet. If you chose to live a life of internet superhero, please go ahead. This has all made me regret any time that I spent making this place a predatory social terrorist trap. People have lost sight of normal decency in this forum. I wish that I hadn't played a part in that evolution.

I really don't recommend that people post personal information on the internet at all. Too many whackos and nut jobs that have nothing better to do with their time than try to hurt another.... as soon as they aren't your "friend" anymore. It's just not a safe and positive environment out there these days. That comment has nothing to do with Chris, and everything to do with your display. In addition to what you have proved about Chris, you have proven many things about yourself. Many ugly things.

Leave me alone and stop trying to bring my state of mind into your crusade. I am not involved in it. Cyber-stalk somebody else.

Tony is 110% correct, you might want to drop this one. Even Catastrophe knows.

Checkmate is alive and running, currently owned by former Baja Marine owner Doug Smith, no secret there. The factory is twice the size Checkmate needs for current operations, so it made a logical place for Saccenti Marine to call home in the back. With zero advertising, Saccenti Marine has already earned a high level of respect on every job that has come out of there.

This is my last post for the day, I'll be married to a buffer all afternoon. I have 32' to magically turn from chaulk to gloss. :eek:

This horse is dead. Let's get our focus back on what is the main purpose of this site and others like it. Plenty of information is now available about said person and said person's actions for a community as intelligent as ours to draw our own conclusions and move forward. Mission accomplished.

The weather is warm, the water is calling. Let's fire 'em up and plant some chit-eatin' grins on our faces. Doesn't that sound much better than banging on a keyboard all day?

There are other people involved in Saccenti marine besides Chris. They are renting a portion of the Checkmate building. neither Tony nor I have any part of the business - either selling to them, etc etc.

Point of fact.

You as a professional on behalf of the goodwill of SOS called for transparancy and caution about how a charity raffle was handled. You in fact supported the charity with a donation.

All that was done quite responsibly.

Fast forward to today.

It has been made quite clear and proven on numerous points that all of that money handling didnt happen honestly.

Yet you are still moderating the site that the owner of is the culprit of all this problem.
By doing so makes you an enabler in my eyes .

I've never ever challenged your honesty in any of this.
Never said you posted falsly anywhere.

I admit that if a bank robber runs and hides in his own restaurant and the manager of that restaurant knows what he is doing but continues to manage the resaurant....he is not a bank robber. He's an enabler.

And the same goes to anyone that is supporting all this by not disassociating themselves . Thats all.

Given that your life's work is very admirable I dont get the reluctance to not be currently involved.

I'm not saying you are Chris Sunkin here.

+1 :drink:

Thats EXACTLY what was said to Offshoredrillin a year ago .
And look whats happened since.

Thanks to that attitude it all continued to a lot of peoples detriment.

Alec your continued posting and the existence of 5 different threads all on the same subject are making you out to be a cyberbully. You did good deeds but your continued over-persecution makes it seem like this is more of a personal vendetta rather than just protecting the community. Jayboat/OSD and others have made their points and laid back but you seem to thrive on restating the obvious and trying to drag the "co-conspirators" into it.

4 locked threads kind of indicate that others are tired of reading the rants also. Be careful when you are too outspoken of an opponent, it can reflect bad on you and all the free kid boat rides/charity donations can't take that away.

just sayin what it looks like from a 3rd party point of view.....

My attitude is the guy has been double-tapped in the back of the head. No need to unload the clip into his lifeless body. We get it. Those that don't get it or choose to ignore it will not be swayed by another 50 pages added onto this thread.

Yeah right.........cyber bully. LOL!!!! You don't retain what you read very well or maybe you just haven't read very much. Chris Sunkin is the original bully here on OSO. There is no conspiracy here in the real world…..but there is in Chris Sunkin’s mind….a pathological liar’s mind (paranoid, controlling, manipulating, lying). He is one good bull$hit artist and has to go bye-bye.

• Would you want Fred Cecil (TooOld) back in the marine business?
• Would you want Bruce Dudley back doing motors and ripping off folks?
• Would you want Big Scotty back fabricating lies and rip-offs?
• Would you want Scott Troutner (Troutly) posting on any forums?
• Would you want Captnate stealing from another charity trust fund?
• Would you want Chris Sunkin to post more lies, fraud and manipulations on forums?

What is the big deal? I mean……Fred only took money off a bunch of performance boaters and marine manufacturers, Scotty only took some money for a drive, Bruce only took money for motors, Troutly only molested his niece, CaptNate only took trust fund money, and Sunkin only lied for years and took charity money. What is the big deal? :drink:

This is the Beware and Stolen section of this website. If you don’t like what is here, then move to a different section! There are plenty of other sections that have awesome content! Pretty simple! :drink::drink:

Perfectly said.

I am just amazed that the guy has been exposed as a pathological liar and charity cheat and yet some people on here still have his back. What about the backs of your fellow members who were swindled into putting thousands of hours of their time into building up this humps web site? I am pretty sure they will not be willing to call off the dogs until the guy has left the community. But go ahead, let him get away with it and in doing so put out an open invitation to every liar and scam artist who's looking for their next con opportunity to come flooding into our sport.

I hear what you are saying and you are saying it fairly and honestly.

Firstly , I dont care what I look like.

OSD didnt make his point and back off. He's been making his point for a year and because people like you kept shutting him up, look what happened.
He's still here tellin the story....Kudos to him for taking the heat and having the patience.

Lets go to the topic of the threads.
Did I start any of them? No.

Did I say one word for a week and get called out for it ? Yes

Do I agree that they should be locked? Yes .
Do I think all this subject should be here and not in GD ? Yes

No one is asking you to read any of this. So if you and others are tired, move on.

To those that think its time to go boating, Go boating.

I've been boating 4 times since this started. This isnt interrupting my boating one bit.


your continued over-persecution makes it seem like this is more of a personal vendetta

Sorry if I didnt explain myself...it is.

Most of you here dont feel it, only because you werent wasting their time for a year.
You dont feel it because you werent volunteering over there.
You didnt travel significant distances and put in hundreds of hours on behalf of something you felt strongly about. My friends and I did.

Its real easy to yap off when all most people have to do is turn on their computor to get all this.
Try being the racer or the pic guy that travels 4 days a week to entertain you.
And try being my 3 friends that ate , breathed and lived SOS for everyone elses enjoyment.

If IB was concerned about anything being said here they would have told me by now but I think all this is the flavor of the month, with 60k plus views so far.

Chris Sunkin has been feeding you sh!t since 2005 and hes still here.
If he wasnt here and was called out, this wouldnt have happened to me or my friends.
Do you want to wear some of that??

This time he bumped into the wrong schmuck.

Ask those that know me how far this will go.

If there is no interest why is it that when I go to this section everyone is reading about SOS?

Check and see who asked for the threads to be locked because there was four of them. And so you know, I dont need this thread or any other to deal with all this. Ask for this to be shut down. You wont see me start another one.



I received your caution with respect and I understand your point. Please consider the position of others that lost something here.

I can see clearly that I am not speaking on behalf of anyone else but me.
Its my fight, so I'll fight it.

To those that see this my way, thank you.

Those close to me know how much I appreciate the support.

So everyone gets it. Chris Sunkin leaves this industry entirely once and for all.

If he wants to hang on to SOS and people want to help him by supporting it, so be it.