I found a nice article on SOS
05-01-2010 | 06:15 PM
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Somehow I dont think he was talking to you
05-01-2010 | 06:34 PM
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Since you're late to the game Mike, you're probably missing quite a bit. I was never consulted or even asked to do anything with this raffle. It was dropped into my lap after it was set up and running. No one gave me anything to go on. I figured out how to collect the money and when we were done, I gave them what we collected. We had numerous conversations about how slow the ticket sales were and added a bunch of incentives that didn't work. And when it was done, a check was written and handed over.
Not once until a week ago had anyone asked a single question or raised any concern about this issue. I didn't want to do it and I now certainly wish it hadn't been thrust upon me. The person that started the raffle should have ASKED to begin with and if they wanted it done in some certain way, they should have either indicaed or done it themselves.
As to the statement, you're going to have to do your homework. It's in one of the half-dozen threads they've started about this. That's nothing more than an export from the paperless banking. It was an unused account- I had to go to the bank to get items prior to 1-1-10 as they didn't show. It's a relatively unused account that I frankly paid little attention to.
Not once until a week ago had anyone asked a single question or raised any concern about this issue. I didn't want to do it and I now certainly wish it hadn't been thrust upon me. The person that started the raffle should have ASKED to begin with and if they wanted it done in some certain way, they should have either indicaed or done it themselves.
As to the statement, you're going to have to do your homework. It's in one of the half-dozen threads they've started about this. That's nothing more than an export from the paperless banking. It was an unused account- I had to go to the bank to get items prior to 1-1-10 as they didn't show. It's a relatively unused account that I frankly paid little attention to.
I have zero desire or reason to do any homework or become involved, I am just an observer that voiced an opinion on how any charitable contribution should be handled with full transparency (again in my opinion which may not be worth a cup of coffee), nothing more or less. I mod on one site already as you know and certainly don't need additional drama as there is plenty there. My purpose in even posting is merely a suggestion of how to quickly put an end to all the accusations and speculation. Sidestepping the alleged fraudulent statement issue will never put it to rest. All the other accusations will likely be argued about till the cows come home.
Have a good one gentlemen, I will lurk in occasionally but that is it.
05-01-2010 | 06:46 PM
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You know nothing. Why even post.
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05-01-2010 | 06:48 PM
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thanks but he was 
..it's ok, it says noble lumpkin under my screen name as an obscure reference to a Ray Stevens shriners song, where people were called "noble lumpkin" "illustrious potentate" and so on, they are big on names and the defining status that comes with it, doesnt make a rats behind to me. the reason that I have it there is Chris seems to think that the fact that I despise everything he stands for is because of a "title" that he took from me on his sinking site.. Quite honestly I just despise liars.
Now on to high tide, he may not like me and that's just fine and dandy, but because of these threads he more than likely wont give away his money to be scammed by someone of the ilk of sunkin. I'm very pleased that he has seen what we/ (collectively myself and the others) have gone through. As i said in another thread by pointing it out I'm an Ahole, but by not pointing it out and watching someone like himself get taken, I'm a bigger Ahole. i can live with people not liking me, but I have issues with people being ripped off and lied to knowing I could have done something to stop it. So I'll take the dislike as a badge of courage, to do whats right, not what is easy.
..it's ok, it says noble lumpkin under my screen name as an obscure reference to a Ray Stevens shriners song, where people were called "noble lumpkin" "illustrious potentate" and so on, they are big on names and the defining status that comes with it, doesnt make a rats behind to me. the reason that I have it there is Chris seems to think that the fact that I despise everything he stands for is because of a "title" that he took from me on his sinking site.. Quite honestly I just despise liars.Now on to high tide, he may not like me and that's just fine and dandy, but because of these threads he more than likely wont give away his money to be scammed by someone of the ilk of sunkin. I'm very pleased that he has seen what we/ (collectively myself and the others) have gone through. As i said in another thread by pointing it out I'm an Ahole, but by not pointing it out and watching someone like himself get taken, I'm a bigger Ahole. i can live with people not liking me, but I have issues with people being ripped off and lied to knowing I could have done something to stop it. So I'll take the dislike as a badge of courage, to do whats right, not what is easy.
05-01-2010 | 08:07 PM
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05-01-2010 | 10:23 PM
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Since you're late to the game Mike, you're probably missing quite a bit. I was never consulted or even asked to do anything with this raffle. It was dropped into my lap after it was set up and running. No one gave me anything to go on. I figured out how to collect the money and when we were done, I gave them what we collected. We had numerous conversations about how slow the ticket sales were and added a bunch of incentives that didn't work. And when it was done, a check was written and handed over.
Not once until a week ago had anyone asked a single question or raised any concern about this issue. I didn't want to do it and I now certainly wish it hadn't been thrust upon me. The person that started the raffle should have ASKED to begin with and if they wanted it done in some certain way, they should have either indicaed or done it themselves.
As to the statement, you're going to have to do your homework. It's in one of the half-dozen threads they've started about this. That's nothing more than an export from the paperless banking. It was an unused account- I had to go to the bank to get items prior to 1-1-10 as they didn't show. It's a relatively unused account that I frankly paid little attention to.
Not once until a week ago had anyone asked a single question or raised any concern about this issue. I didn't want to do it and I now certainly wish it hadn't been thrust upon me. The person that started the raffle should have ASKED to begin with and if they wanted it done in some certain way, they should have either indicaed or done it themselves.
As to the statement, you're going to have to do your homework. It's in one of the half-dozen threads they've started about this. That's nothing more than an export from the paperless banking. It was an unused account- I had to go to the bank to get items prior to 1-1-10 as they didn't show. It's a relatively unused account that I frankly paid little attention to.
Draw your own conclusions about chris sunkin's 'enthusiasm' etc.
05-01-2010 | 11:04 PM
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I have never personally spoke to anyone invilved here I also went to SOS as soon as it was formed.
But I think that the bank statement looks like a word document mine sure don't look like that they have a bank header and many other things.
Saying you had no idea you bounced a check because you do not check your po box for 6 to 8 months I also don't believe. I do not care how many accounts you allegeadly have you still realize if there is a $2650 discrepancy If you have enough money to not notice and so many accounts you probably have people to handle situations like this a lot faster.
I think that any money collected for any purpose especially money you where going to donate you would want to account for so it would not be considered income. Things like photocopies of checks an excel spreadsheet for the cc transactions.
Chris keeps using the excuse it was thrown in his lap all of the things taken to do it properly would have minimal amount of time. and as far as I can tell he could have had some help.
All the other bs aside just the fact the check went unpaid for 8 months is enough for me to make my decision.
But I think that the bank statement looks like a word document mine sure don't look like that they have a bank header and many other things.
Saying you had no idea you bounced a check because you do not check your po box for 6 to 8 months I also don't believe. I do not care how many accounts you allegeadly have you still realize if there is a $2650 discrepancy If you have enough money to not notice and so many accounts you probably have people to handle situations like this a lot faster.
I think that any money collected for any purpose especially money you where going to donate you would want to account for so it would not be considered income. Things like photocopies of checks an excel spreadsheet for the cc transactions.
Chris keeps using the excuse it was thrown in his lap all of the things taken to do it properly would have minimal amount of time. and as far as I can tell he could have had some help.
All the other bs aside just the fact the check went unpaid for 8 months is enough for me to make my decision.
05-01-2010 | 11:40 PM
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Single Post - !! OFFSHORE WORLDS CHARITY Raffle !! 5/1/10 11:44 PM
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04-12-2010, 03:34 PM #174
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If you were a donor to the raffle, feel free to PM me. I'd be happy to fax to
any of you all the paperwork associated with the donation and the contact
information at Columbia Hospital, the beneficiary of the donation.
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Stecz
Could you please get together with Chris Sunkin and aquire this paperwork.
Also for the audit we will need 2 paypal accts. records.
Some people have come forward saying in July the money went to Chris Sunkins personal Pay Pal. That has been checked.
Others have said their receipt shows that it went to a Seriousoffshore PayPal acct.
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04-12-2010, 03:34 PM #174
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If you were a donor to the raffle, feel free to PM me. I'd be happy to fax to
any of you all the paperwork associated with the donation and the contact
information at Columbia Hospital, the beneficiary of the donation.
Close
Stecz
Could you please get together with Chris Sunkin and aquire this paperwork.
Also for the audit we will need 2 paypal accts. records.
Some people have come forward saying in July the money went to Chris Sunkins personal Pay Pal. That has been checked.
Others have said their receipt shows that it went to a Seriousoffshore PayPal acct.
