I like it ... I like it a lot .... OH WAIT .. I gotta quit posting in this thread. Gonna have to delete my posts huh :eek:

:p :D

I got a call from Alec one day . From there I kept the others of SOS informed and up to date via PMs as the graphics on the images were being produced. So they were all aware of it. One of the Mods had to send me a hi res file of the Serious Logo so I could apply it to the images.

This was something that I was told that we (the photogs) would start to see more of for his appreciation for what we dedicated to the Forum. Alec knows very well the long overnight hours I was spending getting images processed and uploaded onto the Serious site. If I remember correctly he caught me posting at 4:30 AM my Key West pics ... He asked when did I ever sleep ?

As far as the check, he is the only person I have received money from that lives in Canada.

If I have to, I can back it up with my Bank statement with the Foreign Exchange Charge.

I think my reputation speaks for itself.

That check is legit and is from Alec.

His name is in the Signature line...

I don't feel comfortable displaying any of the information that " I decided " to remove.

That's the best I can do for you...

So from my end, you now know that ALEC is into at least $850.00 for the Serious Site Promotions. Only the others can tell you what they have billed Alec or Serious for, but I don't think you will hear that from the video guy because he wants everyone to think ALL his stuff was donated. Who knows? Maybe it was? That might explain why the Rules didn't apply to him...
What's funny is, since I left he cut back on his posting...
Here it is 9:30 PM and he has not made a post since yesterday ON THE DOCK... Coincidence ? I think not. I sent a message off to a member and predicted that was going to happen. And it has....
Fine by me. And in case no one noticed, no other Media person has posted in the Media Gallery since 4/18/2010 except for the video guy... That's telling me that site is all his now ! I am sure the membership will enjoy whatever he throws up there now because that is all they have... So it seems...
MobileMercman should have more time to post, now that he no longer has to deal with the virus !!! :rolleyes:

And I almost forgot, I too paid out money to advertise Serious Offshore ....

3,500 promotional Cards had been printed up !

Samples of these were sent to Chris and not even as much as reply PM back from him ...

You can count on OSO replacing that top line on the right !!! :drink:

http://sharkeyimages.zenfolio.com/im...81416120-3.jpg

Tim, I know you well enough, no doubts and I respect your confidentiality. I appreciate you sharing, but I wasn't expecting you or any other vender to step in.

Well,
I was only one of the few that supported the site with content and had just the one transaction. That being paid by Alec.
So when you asked for proof, I felt obligated to answer you respectfully to you as well as keeping confidential information out of it in respect for Alec....

That's all I got ! :drink:

I already tried to arrange this...Chris says he couldnt talk at this time...Chris called me and told me this himself> he says there was an investigation going on by the fbi and cant talk. he has been advised not to say a thing. I guess we will all have to wait till after the probe is over...

LMFAO...AINT THAT THE TRUTH........I LOVE YOU

FBI......it never ends. :drink::drink:

I would really hate to think our Tax Dollars are being wasted on something such as this... :(

I would much rather see their efforts used to finding out who this terrorist that planted a bomb in Times Square friend's are !

I can't imagine the FBI even slightly being interested in a website that was only suppose to be a hobby to some ???? :rolleyes:

I cant wait to speak to them.

I thought the only reason he couldnt speak was because the current boardmembers begged him not to.
Sort of concluded thats why Dave came forward.

Too bad that didnt work out.

Got to give him points though for trying.
But it just proved Chris Sunkin is lying to them too.

Sad really.

Originally Posted by stecz20

it all went through paypal...

know the right answer before we all hang the guy...


At least Dave learned that wasnt quite right today

So someone gives kids a ride in their boat. Quite a noble act. Except a couple of months later some of there associates come on here and basically b!itch that they did this and the cost of fuel and a room should be considered when determining how much someone swindled from them. Please!!

So what did you expect, do the good deed for charity. Get the accolades and not incur the expense!? So what do you want, you give your time and boat and a hobby website pays for the fuel? Did you want this money deducted from the ticket sales as well? Or did you want the other "boardmembers" to kick in and pay those costs?

After reading these you dont come across as the type of person who genuinely cares for the charity. You come across as the type of person who gives to make themselves feel better and bigger. However, in saying that, an uncaring donor is probably better than a non-donor or someone who delays in the giving altogether.

I dont think that was the point the person was trying to make.

I find it odd that the message being put forward by many many good honest volunteers is being scrutinized more than the POS in question here. If people misspeak on here because they feel obligated to inject their personal knowledge of the matter, I'd listen to their point rather than pick apart how they said it.

The clowns on here with no involvement get greater courtesy than that.

If you think the person that spoke to the matter you are referring to thinks that fund raising or good deeds were done for promotional purposes you are completely wrong.
He and I come from an environment where a poker run doesnt exist without charity involvment. He was involved in inventing that environment years ago.I think he was trying to make the point about how much volunteer time and effort was being expended to fulfill the mission statement of SOS


In my opinion I dont think one single volunteer boardmember at SOS was doing any of this for reasons that arent well intended.
We clearly disagreed sometimes on some topics but it was a great team.

To another point on here a while back, I want to reiterate that yes Fund Razor did caution the group about transparancy re the raffle.
His concerns about the whole matter were voiced from the outset because he is involved in charitable work daily.
.

I personally dont begrudge one dime that I spent in my effort to help anyone or SOS through all this. I would gladly do it again.
All I would ask is that when volunteer effort and membership money is involved that all of it be treated honestly and with respect.
Attempting to not be transparant about handling it and not passing it on to the intended recipient isnt respectful to those that generated it or needed it.
None of the money in question here was mine.

FBI huh? well hello Clarice.. may I have some fava beans and chianti...:rolleyes: maybe Chris will post up the agents number, heck I'll call them, no sense waiting around by my phone.:)

DUH Tim posts the cheque and states that it is from Alec. I support Tim by stating that it looks like Alec's signature, one I have seen him use many times before while GIVING away his money to those in need and thats your response?

Just who is the person being accused of wrong doing again? Alec for GIVING 2600 bucks to the childrens hospital of CS for trying NOT to give OUR money to the children's hospital?

Funny, I don't remember stating that any money Alec spent on the PPBC event had been "swindled" from him.
I don't recall stating that he wanted to be reimbursed for that money either.
A question was asked and I gave EXAMPLES of how Alec has invested time and money into Serious while asking for nothing more than transparency and accountability in return. Oh, and a Serious E mail address :)
He did not NEED to prop up the Platinum Powerboat Club when their members did not show up for the kids ride day. He did it because it was the right thing to do. It just so happened that HIS boat flew the SOS banners that day and Serious benefited from his involvement with the event.

Maybe you should actually read what I typed and not read INTO what I typed.

He and I have been participating in CHARITABLE boating events for a couple of DECADES together.

I spent years developing charity poker runs here in Ontario for the Performance Boat Club of Canada from 1990 onward.
NEVER once when I went to pocket did I ask for money in return. Never once when asked has Alec balked at adding to the charity pot. Never once did we ask to be showered in accolades for doing what was the right thing to do. As a matter of fact, he has often asked that what he gives be credited to the group and not himself.
The last time I saw him get this agitated was when a certain poker run for profit promoter tried to stiff a charity.

Try barking up some other tree, you might have better luck.

Get ahold of yourself, its called sarcasm. I don't know any of you so why do you think I should believe anything you say???? That would make me as gullable as you!! And when did I accuse anyone of wrong doing???

Your contempt for the members here is imprerssive. If you don't like people responding to your threads maybe you should start your own board, then you can invite who you want to participate!:lolhit:

People have been paying attention to the political hacks for way too long. Obviously if anyone paid into the raffle by check, it didn't get to where it was intended to go. I think that's a pretty simple YES/NO answer to that particular question.

A huge question that remains unanswered is why it took so long to get the money to it's intended destination. This was asked many times over there, and the crickets still are pretty loud. I would not expect anyone there to be anxious to setup another charity event.

Most of the other responses have been refuted and/or disputed outright. It almost seems that some have tried to embellish their stories in an effort to make people uncertain. Classic diversion tactic nowadays.

A quick review of the million posts so far in various thread reveals.

1. Nobody knows why the funds sat so long in spite of repeated attempts to get an answer.

2. The particularly damming evidence presented in the form of purported bank record has as many flaws as Bernie Maddoff's investing acumen. I have yet to see the originator of this damming document refute it's content.

3. The confusion over the boating history remains a mystery.

4. The bottom line is ethics and character. Some seem to think that a boating forum and keeping company is more important than the truth.

I can't possibly believe that people are comfortable in any way with the answers given to some pretty straightforward questions, particularly the non answers to #1 and #2. Let me correct that. #1 and #2 remain unanswered questions.

It reminds me of the Wizard of Oz. Pay No Attention To The Man Behind The Curtain.

Now that is funny, I used the line over there a few times myself.....Pay no attention to the man behind the curtian...

Your pile of BS continues to grow with each new post. If you knew Alec, you would know that one of the things he has much contempt for is stupidity.

After weeks of these threads and thousands of posts you waltz in here like a prima donna Sherlock Holmes demanding answers to silly, juvenile questions that are irrelevant to the issue.

You aren't asking questions, you are throwing rocks.

You aren't interested in answers, you are interested in attention.

Exactly what I have been saying all along. You guys think your judge, jury and exacutioner. Get off your high horse. Like I said before, I don't know any of you and have no reason to believe you. You have pounced on every other person asking questions. If you don't like my participation.....too bad!! I'll ask whatever question I want, and express any opinion I have.

If you did not want reader participation then you should have started a blog or your own board!!!

With you guys being such smart businessmen I'm sure you could have done it for less than 60K:evilb:

These are still pretty basic items that deserve explanations in light of a huge thread on a contentious issue.


http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/3098467-post6.html

and a logical followup.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/3099182-post49.html

the document in post#6 has to speak for itself, because the person that produced it isn't talking.

And I believe we have answered your questions, is there one in particular that you feel we didn't? As it is a free forum and you mentioned in a previous post about sarcasm, each person will assign emotion to their post depending on their own mood. Feel free to post away. You are correct you don't have any reason to believe any of us, but as I had posted earlier, maybe you will think about it with your next boat related/website purchase from this or any other forum. Is the guy a snake and no one is coming forward? carry on :D

Chris, the FBI huh right... :rolleyes:

Couple things Sunkin posted on OSO in a dirt bike thread
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/t...rtbikes-2.html

bikes he owns

"'03 KX250
'02 KTM 400
'00 CR500AF
And about a dozen vintage Maico bikes. "

and this

"One of my riding buddies got landed on last year by some a$$hole kid. Broke his shoulder, some ribs and his arm. The kid was jumping blind off of the top of a hillclimb backwards and landed on him. We made the kid walk back- kept his bike. Reported it to the local PD. I still have his bike- the kid never contacted my buddy about the injuries or damage to his bike."

Which one of them rode two bikes back, Chris or his buddy with all the broken bones?.. Maybe Chris rode all three back and carried his buddy to safety... :grinser010:

Maybe his paratrooper service buddies from Grenada dropped in to help him ride them back? :drink::drink:

I received a few PMs from serious soliciting donations. I felt it inappropriate and dismissed it. Obviously the right thing to do. Kudos to those exposing him, and fred, and big scotty etc. etc etc. They may be embarassed about being scammed, they should be more embarassed about their treatment of the people their trying to "protect"

But keep up the good work!!:coolcowboy:

Thanks, I for one appreciate all the pm's and emails and calls I have received. I've never been embarrassed to do what I think is right. Those smileys sure help with the sarcasm aspect :D

I was thinking the same thing. His best bet to make all this die out is to not respond so he invented an excuse not to.

"If you've been around here you'll know I always attempt to take the high road. I pride myself on making articulate, clear, factual posts "

It's raining today and I'm trapped indoors so I'm killing some time reading some old Sunkin posts from the past.

Thanks for that, interceptor.

Captain Fantastic rides again!!!

here's a screencap of our hero's post:

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/5858/sunkinmoto.jpg

And, and, and... I got a question for ya Chris. Specifically, the 'jumping blind off of the top of a hillclimb backwards' part. I rode dirtbikes for years when I was younger and I never saw or heard of ANYONE jumping backwards off of a hillclimb. Because, ya know, it's a freaking hill. Jumping backwards off a hillclimb??? We need the FBI to investigate this.

Hmmmmmm, I wonder what the FBI will have to say about the "donations" made by Patrons, Supporters and Contributors to Seriousoffshore which isn't a registered business and therefore does not report income nor pay appropriate business taxes on that non reported income?

Go find the Maico site and see how he left.


Fall out of a helicopter and break your back in 3 places, fall out of a boat at speed 3 times and then get into offroad motorcycling.

Sweeeeet !!!!!!

I also have no dogs in this fight but I can't understand why it took so long to see all the lies??? Seems like years of them!!! Why only now are they being exposed??

You keep this up and we're gonna hafta unlock the 'in his own words thread.'

just sayin'... :lolhit:

Because previous to SOS he was just some guy in a room posting his tall tales on the internet. As SOS evolved he interacted with the principals who over time realized that none of them had ever seen Chris in his own boat, or knew anyone who had ever seen Chris in his own boat, or anybody who had ever bought or sold a running boat to Chris. At first they took him at his word but over time they began to piece it together.

As someone else pointed out, what guy claims to own a 50 Sea Ray, 41 Apache, and a Top Gun all at the same but is always bummnig rides at poker runs instead of running one of his own rigs. It makes no sense - unless you are Chris Sunkin that is.

Since the 4 of us knew this to be false I had to do a little research to share this with the rest of the spectators here. Take a look at this screen cap taken today. Note that the last activity on the "lady" account is on 3/21/09 completely disproving that it was used for any access anywhere during this whole fiasco. I'm sure the "server logs" would show that the only person left with Admin privileges changed that username in the time since 4/10/10. The "lady" account was originally a test account Heather set up which is why it had no activity after she was shown the door by Chris Sunkin. So much for that "Smoking Gun"....

Look at post #14 of this thread:
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/t...dirtbikes.html


Five minutes of searching and I found the picture of this 1981 440 Maico. Hmmm....

http://www.maicomadness.com/listpics.htm

Scroll down to:

81 490 Owned by Randy Rector (don't miss this one)

Why would Randy Rector steal chris sunkin's picture??????? I would imagine that most of the other pictures of the bikes were someone elses pictures as well.... Or maybe Mr. Honesty posted that picture of someone elses bike by accident. Maybe this Randy Rector fellow stole sunkins picture??? Who knows. Unphuckingbelievable

ALERT THE FBI!!!! :drink:

Maybe a contest would be a good idea to find all of the bikes posted by Mr. Honesty???



Look folks. This has gone on long enough. I'm actually starting to feel sorry for the guy (just a little bit). I said that I was staying out of it from the get go. I have nothing to prove to anyone. I knew that this guy had trouble telling the truth. However, I keep getting phone calls and emails from people who I have known for years (they've actually seen my boats) :rolleyes: with info that is being spread out there about me. Do I care? Not really, but when BS is said about me, I don't like it one bit and I will defend myself.