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mikes280 02-13-2011 10:48 AM

OMG that pic is so funny

PhantomChaos 02-13-2011 12:18 PM

Lol!!!!

Donziweasel 02-13-2011 01:48 PM

Curious about something. I know over the years Sunkin would show up at events and poker runs with life jacket in hand looking for a ride and some excuse why he couldn't bring his own boat. Did he ever show up to anything with a boat?

pasquesi 02-13-2011 02:58 PM

Never.

thirdchildhood 02-13-2011 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by pasquesi (Post 3323296)
Never.

lol He fooled all you guys for years!:evilb:

Comanche3Six 02-13-2011 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by thirdchildhood (Post 3323304)
lol He fooled all you guys for years!:evilb:

Not true. Many knew there were problems with Sunkin, but accepted it as typical website bs, and unimportant

thirdchildhood 02-13-2011 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 3323390)
Not true. Many knew there were problems with Sunkin, but accepted it as typical website bs, and unimportant

Still funny. I've seen the posts where he bragged about his boats and they weren't all Apaches either. I think there was a 50' SeaRay? But some how they never ran and he was on the dock with a life vest. That's hilarious!:lolhit:

CigDaze 02-13-2011 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by Donziweasel (Post 3323258)
Curious about something. I know over the years Sunkin would show up at events and poker runs with life jacket in hand looking for a ride and some excuse why he couldn't bring his own boat. Did he ever show up to anything with a boat?

No.

99fever27 02-14-2011 01:37 AM

:cheer: Ha Ha Ha suckers!

thirdchildhood 02-14-2011 06:33 AM

Slinky played y'all like a harp from hell:coolcowboy:.

Donziweasel 02-14-2011 07:08 AM

Take it easy on them Carl. Thats why they call them "con" men. It is thier job to con people and some get pretty good at it like ole Sunkin. Look at people like Madoff. Got away with his con for over 20 years. You have to give people the benefit of the doubt. They all get exposed in the end though.

Interceptor 02-14-2011 07:42 AM

[QUOTE=mikes280;3323138]OMG that pic is so funny[/QUO

Is the missing finger stuck in the exposed azz ?

Jupiter Sunsation 02-14-2011 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by Donziweasel (Post 3325726)
Take it easy on them Carl. Thats why they call them "con" men. It is thier job to con people and some get pretty good at it like ole Sunkin. Look at people like Madoff. Got away with his con for over 20 years. You have to give people the benefit of the doubt. They all get exposed in the end though.

Madoff stole billions from "savvy" investors too!

The guy who got suckered the best was "DollaBill" or should we call him -$300bill.....he paid $300 to be a platinum member. That would kill me that Sunkin is out on the town with 3 of my Ben Franklins.....:D

Ted G 02-14-2011 07:53 AM

Well, in some people's defense (mine included I suppose, although several of us were the final undoing of the man, the myth, the legend), you had to experience it to understand it. When you go through your life basically being honest and straightforward it is almost inconceivable that someone could lie about virtually everything in his life. And I mean stupid little things and really freekin HUGE things. It is really easy once the light of day is shown on it to go back and say "Oh, I knew all along" or "He would never have gotten over on me." But there are some people that are just inordinately good liars (and/or pathological, but I will leave that to a shrink). And the bigger the lie, the easier it is to get away with it because normal people cannot comprehend even the act. If you look back on it, hundreds of people here and on SO had contact with him over years, and aside from some personality disagreements, no one called him out, and no one even really questioned any of his BS. Even after the 4 of us had questions it took us a fair amount of time to find out the scope and depth of it all, and we were working with and communicating with him almost every single day. Call anyone you want a sucker or a fool, or whatever, but Karma is a biotch and you may come up with your own Sunkin one day ( or Fred Cecil, or Big Scotty) :bsflag:

Jupiter Sunsation 02-14-2011 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by Ted G (Post 3325760)
Well, in some people's defense (mine included I suppose, although several of us were the final undoing of the man, the myth, the legend), you had to experience it to understand it. When you go through your life basically being honest and straightforward it is almost inconceivable that someone could lie about virtually everything in his life. And I mean stupid little things and really freekin HUGE things. It is really easy once the light of day is shown on it to go back and say "Oh, I knew all along" or "He would never have gotten over on me." But there are some people that are just inordinately good liars (and/or pathological, but I will leave that to a shrink). And the bigger the lie, the easier it is to get away with it because normal people cannot comprehend even the act. If you look back on it, hundreds of people here and on SO had contact with him over years, and aside from some personality disagreements, no one called him out, and no one even really questioned any of his BS. Even after the 4 of us had questions it took us a fair amount of time to find out the scope and depth of it all, and we were working with and communicating with him almost every single day. Call anyone you want a sucker or a fool, or whatever, but Karma is a biotch and you may come up with your own Sunkin one day ( or Fred Cecil, or Big Scotty) :bsflag:


Hey don't beat yourself up.......he had a decent rap about technical stuff so he was believable.

thirdchildhood 02-14-2011 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by Donziweasel (Post 3325726)
Take it easy on them Carl. Thats why they call them "con" men. It is thier job to con people and some get pretty good at it like ole Sunkin. Look at people like Madoff. Got away with his con for over 20 years. You have to give people the benefit of the doubt. They all get exposed in the end though.

John, they know I'm just teasing them. I'd have given him a ride too but my boat's too small. A big player like Slinky deserves a real ride; You know, in something worth at least half a mil..... :party-smiley-048:

Panther 02-14-2011 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Ted G (Post 3325760)
If you look back on it, hundreds of people here and on SO had contact with him over years, and aside from some personality disagreements, no one called him out, and no one even really questioned any of his BS.

I questioned it a long time ago, before SOS. :kiss:

Just one example, post #12; http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/b...go-direct.html

Carry on!:drink:

Ted G 02-14-2011 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by Panther (Post 3326034)
I questioned it a long time ago, before SOS. :kiss:

Just one example, post #12; http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/b...go-direct.html

Carry on!:drink:


Uh, yeah, well that kinda proves my point huh? I guess the part where you said he had never recruited chit and was a liar and con man must have gotten deleted :lolhit:

thirdchildhood 02-14-2011 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by Panther (Post 3326034)
I questioned it a long time ago, before SOS. :kiss:

Just one example, post #12; http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/b...go-direct.html

Carry on!:drink:


Originally Posted by Ted G (Post 3326044)
Uh, yeah, well that kinda proves my point huh? I guess the part where you said he had never recruited chit and was a liar and con man must have gotten deleted :lolhit:

I found it: http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/3326086-post22.html

Comanche3Six 02-14-2011 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by thirdchildhood (Post 3323428)
Still funny. I've seen the posts where he bragged about his boats and they weren't all Apaches either. I think there was a 50' SeaRay? But some how they never ran and he was on the dock with a life vest. That's hilarious!:lolhit:

It is an amusing thought. And the amount of the powerboats he claimed to own was even more funny! The one thing that twisted me up was when he stole money from the sick childrens charity. That did it.........major league scumbag!

CigDaze 02-14-2011 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by thirdchildhood (Post 3323428)
Still funny. I've seen the posts where he bragged about his boats and they weren't all Apaches either. I think there was a 50' SeaRay? But some how they never ran and he was on the dock with a life vest. That's hilarious!:lolhit:

:D :D :D
To Re-iterate:
30 Velocity
45 Cary
46 Searay
50 Searay
41 searay
Cig 35
Cig 24
Spectra 19
46 Cougar
'84 41 Apache
'86 42 Apache
Two other unknown Apaches ("After re-doing 3 and being on my 4th")
Top Gun
Squadron XII
several Sutphens
Maritime
38 cougar

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...is-sunkin.html

Interceptor 02-14-2011 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by CigDaze (Post 3326098)
:D :D :D
To Re-iterate:
30 Velocity
45 Cary
46 Searay
50 Searay
41 searay
Cig 35
Cig 24
Spectra 19
46 Cougar
'84 41 Apache
'86 42 Apache
Two other unknown Apaches ("After re-doing 3 and being on my 4th")
Top Gun
Squadron XII
several Sutphens
Maritime
38 cougar

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...is-sunkin.html

And he put new upgraded engines and drives into many of them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Airpacker 02-14-2011 03:05 PM

Hey now, ONE out of eighteen ain't bad :)

pullmytrigger 02-14-2011 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by Ted G (Post 3325760)
Well, in some people's defense (mine included I suppose, although several of us were the final undoing of the man, the myth, the legend), you had to experience it to understand it. When you go through your life basically being honest and straightforward it is almost inconceivable that someone could lie about virtually everything in his life. And I mean stupid little things and really freekin HUGE things. It is really easy once the light of day is shown on it to go back and say "Oh, I knew all along" or "He would never have gotten over on me." But there are some people that are just inordinately good liars (and/or pathological, but I will leave that to a shrink). And the bigger the lie, the easier it is to get away with it because normal people cannot comprehend even the act. If you look back on it, hundreds of people here and on SO had contact with him over years, and aside from some personality disagreements, no one called him out, and no one even really questioned any of his BS. Even after the 4 of us had questions it took us a fair amount of time to find out the scope and depth of it all, and we were working with and communicating with him almost every single day. Call anyone you want a sucker or a fool, or whatever, but Karma is a biotch and you may come up with your own Sunkin one day ( or Fred Cecil, or Big Scotty) :bsflag:

Its true.....I had a girlfriend like that once.....we actually lived together for awhile.....when we first met I had no reason to doubt anything she said, all seemed logical enough but then as we went along I found out that she bs"d about practically EVERYTHING....where she grew up, where she went to school, what her Dad did for a living, what her ex did for a living.....blah blah blah everything

After it all started to shake out I found that there was nothing wrong or embarrassing with the truth behind any of the lies....it seemed she just lied for the sake of lying.....her deal was she would make things just that much better than the truth.....eg She said her and her ex used to have a 42ft Sea Ray and they did the whole Trent Canal on it, partied went here went there....the truth was her ex's bro had the 42 (so she could describe the interior layout etc to a tee) and they had an 18ft bowrider that they did do the Trent on so she would combine the two....get it

All that lying (to me and everyone around her) made for a very wound up highly stressed person....smoked like a fiend....always drank to excess.....swear like a trucker in bed....we'd go to the bar where she would get promptly hammered then announce that she wanted to go home and f uck....she was only about 5'4" and she would strip buck naked in the front seat driving home and do everything imaginable to herself while I drove then walk totally nude from the car to the house.....that part I liked....!

But eventually I got so I didnt believe a single word that ever came out of her mouth and it just made me sick so I sent her down the road....effed up person....sad really.....I was like 32 - 33 at the time and had never ran across anyone like that before in my life.....thats good I guess.

mikes280 02-14-2011 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by pullmytrigger (Post 3326189)
Its true.....I had a girlfriend like that once.....we actually lived together for awhile.....when we first met I had no reason to doubt anything she said, all seemed logical enough but then as we went along I found out that she bs"d about practically EVERYTHING....where she grew up, where she went to school, what her Dad did for a living, what her ex did for a living.....blah blah blah everything

After it all started to shake out I found that there was nothing wrong or embarrassing with the truth behind any of the lies....it seemed she just lied for the sake of lying.....her deal was she would make things just that much better than the truth.....eg She said her and her ex used to have a 42ft Sea Ray and they did the whole Trent Canal on it, partied went here went there....the truth was her ex's bro had the 42 (so she could describe the interior layout etc to a tee) and they had an 18ft bowrider that they did do the Trent on so she would combine the two....get it

All that lying (to me and everyone around her) made for a very wound up highly stressed person....smoked like a fiend....always drank to excess.....swear like a trucker in bed....we'd go to the bar where she would get promptly hammered then announce that she wanted to go home and f uck....she was only about 5'4" and she would strip buck naked in the front seat driving home and do everything imaginable to herself while I drove then walk totally nude from the car to the house.....that part I liked....!

But eventually I got so I didnt believe a single word that ever came out of her mouth and it just made me sick so I sent her down the road....effed up person....sad really.....I was like 32 - 33 at the time and had never ran across anyone like that before in my life.....thats good I guess.

can we get her name and phone #:drink:

Panther 02-14-2011 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by Ted G (Post 3326044)
Uh, yeah, well that kinda proves my point huh? I guess the part where you said he had never recruited chit and was a liar and con man must have gotten deleted :lolhit:

There was no reason for me to personally call him out back then, he was just a posting member of OSO. It was enough for me to see that he was blowing smoke. Back then he was posting all day long and I found it really annoying because he was the expert on everything including recruiting which is my livelyjood. But when I did call him out on SOS about the Apoache's it was deleted. ;)

Anyway, this is all a few years old for me now so no need to keep talkin about it. I had nothing ventured, gained/lost like some of you did. It's a shame though and I do feel for everyone directly involved.

Panther 02-14-2011 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by thirdchildhood (Post 3326089)

If that quote were true it would make me just like your screen name. lol. BTW, just kidding bud.;)

.

Fixxxer22 02-14-2011 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by CigDaze (Post 3326098)
:D :D :D
To Re-iterate:
30 Velocity
45 Cary
46 Searay
50 Searay
41 searay
Cig 35
Cig 24
Spectra 19
46 Cougar
'84 41 Apache
'86 42 Apache
Two other unknown Apaches ("After re-doing 3 and being on my 4th")
Top Gun
Squadron XII
several Sutphens
Maritime
38 cougar

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...is-sunkin.html

Ask Ding Ding. CS was a dreamer. And there is nothing wrong with that.

personally, its cool. ive met pathological liars before. its annoying to say the least. i was just reading some of that stuff that you had linked to. holy chit. Im gonna get some popcorn and keep going. he must not have known that when u post something it gets..... posted. and then if you post something else that contradicts what you posted.... then it makes u look like a liar.

this is all still so comical.

Comanche3Six 02-14-2011 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by pullmytrigger (Post 3326189)
All that lying (to me and everyone around her) made for a very wound up highly stressed person....smoked like a fiend....always drank to excess.....swear like a trucker in bed....we'd go to the bar where she would get promptly hammered then announce that she wanted to go home and f uck....she was only about 5'4" and she would strip buck naked in the front seat driving home and do everything imaginable to herself while I drove then walk totally nude from the car to the house.....that part I liked....!
.

A great candidate for moderator of the uncensored section.

Ted G 02-14-2011 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by pullmytrigger (Post 3326189)
Its true.....I had a girlfriend like that once.....we'd go to the bar where she would get promptly hammered then announce that she wanted to go home and f uck....she was only about 5'4" and she would strip buck naked in the front seat driving home and do everything imaginable to herself while I drove then walk totally nude from the car to the house.....that part I liked....!


That would pretty much explain why CS would not drink:eek::eek::drink::lolhit:

Airpacker 02-15-2011 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by Ted G (Post 3326374)
That would pretty much explain why CS would not drink:eek::eek::drink::lolhit:

OR...................maybe he just couldn't afford a beer :)

thirdchildhood 02-15-2011 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by Airpacker (Post 3326625)
OR...................maybe he just couldn't afford a beer :)

Geez, he could have at least been on the dock with a life vest and cooler of beer. (unless a race or poker run of course)

Panther 02-15-2011 02:55 PM

Another post from early 2008..

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/b...-question.html

Response: http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/2411492-post30.html

pasquesi 02-15-2011 04:38 PM

I have to admit..I fell for the entire Sunkin thing. I really respected the guy. I talked with him several times about boating related issues. It's almost scary now when I re-read his posts...and I bought his line of poo. Aside from all of the B.S. related businesses he had...what did Sunkin actually do for a living?

Indy 02-15-2011 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by pasquesi (Post 3327241)
Aside from all of the B.S. related businesses he had...what did Sunkin actually do for a living?

I think he ran the world.

cosmic12 02-15-2011 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by thirdchildhood (Post 3326658)
Geez, he could have at least been on the dock with a life vest and cooler of beer. (unless a race or poker run of course)

I spent about a 1/2 hour on a dock with him and that was enough for me to know I was done with him.
At that time I was offered a ride in the poker run on the Chief Apache and I declinded because they already had 5 people aboard and that is enough,I later found out he took the ride instead.:eek:

Interceptor 02-16-2011 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by cosmic12 (Post 3327381)
I spent about a 1/2 hour on a dock with him and that was enough for me to know I was done with him.
At that time I was offered a ride in the poker run on the Chief Apache and I declinded because they already had 5 people aboard and that is enough,I later found out he took the ride instead.:eek:

since most everything we hear about him came from internet threads, what was he like in person ?

OldSchool 02-16-2011 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 3327814)
since most everything we hear about him came from internet threads, what was he like in person ?

Genuinely a nice and knowledgable guy...but that was flawed by the highly successful and legendary person that he had built himself up to be before we actually met him. That was before I knew that it was all bullchit. I had him to my house. Very respectful.

The one thing about him (which makes sense now) is that he rarely drank. When he did he completely lost control of himself. A very good friend of mine and LONG time member here hit the nail on the head the first time that he met him in person early on. I wish that would have taken his statement more seriously as it would have saved a lot of heartburn.

He said: "Never trust a guy that doesn't drink or can't handle his liquor". That proved to be VERY true.

Ted G 02-16-2011 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 3327814)
since most everything we hear about him came from internet threads, what was he like in person ?

Actually not a bad guy. He would be happy to talk about all his adventures and experience but usually when asked. He was kind of self-deprecating and I gave him credit for being pretty grounded for a guy that ran a BIG TIME consulting company. Of course once you learn he was basically working on cars out of his cheap azz no taxes paid house with no pool in the back yard and doing some apparent hauling with a flat bed truck it brought the full of chit factor way up
:lolhit::lolhit:

Catastrophe 02-16-2011 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 3327814)
since most everything we hear about him came from internet threads, what was he like in person ?

Courteous, respectful, very knowledgable, well spoken , mixed along with plotting with an agenda.

Dont know why this thread keeps living cuz its all old news.
Perhaps its because a year ago about this time that the efforts of his volunteers were creating some great comraderie.

Of all the crap that was pulled , when one looks back its the complete disrespect of those peoples efforts that was the most unfortunate .

Some stood up and wouldnt accept it, some didnt.

Such is life.

Sad


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