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fastmcars 12-02-2010 12:21 PM

Don't buy Leverage from Sean Woodward
 
I thought I would try some Leverage wax, so I clicked on the link in OSO and ordered. I don't know who Sean Woodward is, but that is who the order went through. I ordered wax and metal polish, but when the order came it was missing the wax. No big deal. Emailed him and this was the response-



[First please allow me to apologize for your trouble.


Mr. Walman, I packed that box myself. I had trouble holding the two items together while I wrapped it with the bubblewrap, but I managed to get it all into the box just fine. The UPS box weight was 3 lbs, The Serum is about 2 lbs, the polish is about 1 lb. The box and bubblewrap is negligible.

The only way that this could happen is if the box had been opened by UPS and one item was stolen out of it. Does it appear that the box was retaped?

Also, your delivery was flagged for some reason two days ago, I got the notice, but today I also got the notice that it was successfully delivered.

I am copying the original notice below. Any issues of this type need to be dealt with properly. A couple of photos of the box condition, the contents and the packaging material are critical. Then we will have to phone UPS and go through their insurance process.

Please contact me with more data once you have it!

-Sean Woodward]

So, I sent him the pictures of the box and what was in it. NO response to two emails. No product sent. In 15 years of ordering stuff through the internet, this has been the first burn. Oh well, only $16. I just want to warn others!

PhantomChaos 12-02-2010 12:25 PM

Service at its finest! LOL

Pete280 12-02-2010 05:08 PM

If he had trouble holding the two items he probably dropped one of them, someone needs to weigh a bottle of leverage, I bet it's more than 1lb, what a dick

marineclean 12-02-2010 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by fastmcars (Post 3265303)
I thought I would try some Leverage wax, so I clicked on the link in OSO and ordered. I don't know who Sean Woodward is, but that is who the order went through. I ordered wax and metal polish, but when the order came it was missing the wax. No big deal. Emailed him and this was the response-



[First please allow me to apologize for your trouble.


Mr. Walman, I packed that box myself. I had trouble holding the two items together while I wrapped it with the bubblewrap, but I managed to get it all into the box just fine. The UPS box weight was 3 lbs, The Serum is about 2 lbs, the polish is about 1 lb. The box and bubblewrap is negligible.

The only way that this could happen is if the box had been opened by UPS and one item was stolen out of it. Does it appear that the box was retaped?

Also, your delivery was flagged for some reason two days ago, I got the notice, but today I also got the notice that it was successfully delivered.

I am copying the original notice below. Any issues of this type need to be dealt with properly. A couple of photos of the box condition, the contents and the packaging material are critical. Then we will have to phone UPS and go through their insurance process.

Please contact me with more data once you have it!

-Sean Woodward]

So, I sent him the pictures of the box and what was in it. NO response to two emails. No product sent. In 15 years of ordering stuff through the internet, this has been the first burn. Oh well, only $16. I just want to warn others!

Hey Fast,

I'll take care of your bottle. Please PM me your address, etc..

I apologize for any shipping problems! May I ask who Sean Woodward works for though? That name doesn't ring a bell.

Thanks, Donnie

Jassman 12-02-2010 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by fastmcars (Post 3265303)
I thought I would try some Leverage wax, so I clicked on the link in OSO and ordered. I don't know who Sean Woodward is, but that is who the order went through. I ordered wax and metal polish, but when the order came it was missing the wax. No big deal. Emailed him and this was the response-



[First please allow me to apologize for your trouble.


Mr. Walman, I packed that box myself. I had trouble holding the two items together while I wrapped it with the bubblewrap, but I managed to get it all into the box just fine. The UPS box weight was 3 lbs, The Serum is about 2 lbs, the polish is about 1 lb. The box and bubblewrap is negligible.

The only way that this could happen is if the box had been opened by UPS and one item was stolen out of it. Does it appear that the box was retaped?

Also, your delivery was flagged for some reason two days ago, I got the notice, but today I also got the notice that it was successfully delivered.

I am copying the original notice below. Any issues of this type need to be dealt with properly. A couple of photos of the box condition, the contents and the packaging material are critical. Then we will have to phone UPS and go through their insurance process.

Please contact me with more data once you have it!

-Sean Woodward]

So, I sent him the pictures of the box and what was in it. NO response to two emails. No product sent. In 15 years of ordering stuff through the internet, this has been the first burn. Oh well, only $16. I just want to warn others!


Something to ask....

Is Sean Woodward a authorized selling dealer, that would be something to ask todays owner of Leverage, Donnie Fulmer AKA Marine Clean.. I weighed the polish on my pizza scale and it came to 1.21 pounds with the spray nozzel and the Metal Serum was at 1.46 pounds. This is also in the new crack resistant bottles. Good Luck getting your merchandise.

marineclean 12-02-2010 07:25 PM

Why are you so concerned Jeff?
I just received more questions from your attorneys today. Why would you be concerned with my bottle manufacturer, labels and my FORMULAS unless there was something else going on like I've said from the beginning?

I see you still have inventory, huh?

No one on this forum or any other has ever had any financial issues with me whatsoever, so why not just let THIS LITIGATION go in front of the jury, which is still at
least 6 months away? What are you worried about, Buddy?

PhantomChaos 12-02-2010 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by marineclean (Post 3265700)
Why are you so concerned Jeff?
I just received more questions from your attorneys today. Why would you be concerned with my bottle manufacturer, labels and my FORMULAS unless there was something else going on like I've said from the beginning?

I see you still have inventory, huh?

No one on this forum or any other has ever had any financial issues with me whatsoever, so why not just let THIS LITIGATION go in front of the jury, which is still at
least 6 months away? What are you worried about, Buddy?

How are those payments......in the mail? :)

marineclean 12-02-2010 07:36 PM

Nort, I appreciate your efforts, but why don't you let Jeff answer for himself. I looked everywhere, but didn't find your name on any of the litigation?

If his sheep would step back for a minute and let Jeff answer everything then they might be enlightened?

Jeff just admitted that he has product and I know he has a ton, but does he have a paid receipt? No and you know why? Because when he purchased his pallet of product he paid for it then turned around and sued me to get it for free.

PhantomChaos 12-02-2010 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by marineclean (Post 3265717)
Nort, I appreciate your efforts, but why don't you let Jeff answer for himself. I looked everywhere, but didn't find your name on any of the litigation?

If his sheep would step back for a minute and let Jeff answer everything then they might be enlightened?

Jeff just admitted that he has product and I know he has a ton, but does he have a paid receipt? No and you know why? Because when he purchased his pallet of product he paid for it then turned around and sued me to get it for free.

Why would my name be on any litigation? What does this have to do with sheep?


This makes no sense: "when he purchased his pallet of product he paid for it then turned around and sued me to get it for free"

marineclean 12-02-2010 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by PhantomChaos (Post 3265727)
Why would my name be on any litigation? What does this have to do with sheep?


This makes no sense: "when he purchased his pallet of product he paid for it then turned around and sued me to get it for free"

So your name isn't on the litigation, right?
So the only thing you know is there was some type of note, right?
Did you see what the lawsuit involves? Or are you just assuming that it involves only what Jeff posted? Please look the lawsuit up Nort and go through everything page by page.

Your "makes no sense" comment is exactly right for you. It's right for you because you're not involved and really have no idea what the litigation involves or the amount of transactions that's already taken place between JJ and myself. JJ is denying and posted that he's not received anything, correct? So what's he going to do or say about witnesses that saw him? Call all of them liars as well?

AGAIN, If everyone wasn't so quick to attack and defend they might do some research. I'm not here to prove anything to you Nort. It's up to the Jury, so PLEASE let Jeff defend himself. He's the one that jumped up so quick to post the allegations and then expected you and everyone else to defend him. He posted, so let him defend himself.


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