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tinman565 06-13-2011 07:18 PM

Stolen Fountain Poll
 
Ok...the other thread is giving me symptoms of some kinda withdrawl..lol. So, lets see what you guys think will be the final outcome. :drink:

Oh...and you can vote for more than one thing at a time.

VtSteve 06-13-2011 08:16 PM

Where is the choice of

We'll never see the end result posted or spoken of, like most in this section

tinman565 06-13-2011 09:26 PM

Oh...I promise you we will know the outcome to this.

VtSteve 06-13-2011 09:42 PM

Please hurry, I haven't slep a wink :lolhit:

LaughingCat 06-14-2011 07:07 AM

I choose option 7: Allan4 is a Putz.

LaughingCat 06-14-2011 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by tinman565 (Post 3428378)
Ok...the other thread is giving me symptoms of some kinda withdrawl..lol. .

I agree. Feels like watching a crime drama but they won't show the ending.

Fountain4402 06-14-2011 07:17 AM

IMO boat is long gone or something we dont know here. A 30ft boat just doesn't dissapear

Downtown42 06-14-2011 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3428700)
A 30ft boat just doesn't dissapear

A 43' did = CARDSHARK :eek:

tinman565 06-14-2011 07:37 AM

This is just me...AND ONLY MY IDEA....but if I was in Danny's shoes, I woulda made a midnight run and sunk that boat. I would chalk up the $6k as money lost, and made it up on some other sucker at a later date. There are some deeeeeep lakes around. Simple end to the story. :drink:

Baja_342 06-14-2011 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by LaughingCat (Post 3428688)
I choose option 7: Allan4 is a Putz.

Good for a laugh...

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...want-know.html

PARADISE ISLAND 06-14-2011 07:57 AM

You left out whole bunch of:bsflag:Looks like a stupid little game 3 people &the guy posting this may be involved also!:eek:

tinman565 06-14-2011 08:04 AM

You mean me ? lol....yeah, I'm the one thats been whipping their azz's with my verbal judo skills since the beginning, and asking all the questions that they dont seem to wanna answer. I assure you that Im not involved in this scam. I just happen to know more about the whole thing than most. So cross me off your list. ;)

1MOSES1 06-14-2011 08:17 AM

i was just thinking another good poll would be to ask what beware/stolen story had the most intrigue, mystery, etc...

I came up with four:

1. Cardshark
2. Cigarette Rice Hauler
3. 33 Outerlimits Stripped Down
4. 29 Fountain Fever (Goergia)

tinman565 06-14-2011 08:27 AM

Is that the Outerlimits that "Mary King" was looking for ? I think it was a 39'...but I agree, that was a good thread too. :drink:

1MOSES1 06-14-2011 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by tinman565 (Post 3428774)
Is that the Outerlimits that "Mary King" was looking for ? I think it was a 39'...but I agree, that was a good thread too. :drink:

yes the 39 sorry.

prostock85 06-14-2011 08:53 AM

Why can't they (or anyone) just run the Hin and Vin?

4bus 06-14-2011 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by tinman565 (Post 3428774)
Is that the Outerlimits that "Mary King" was looking for ? I think it was a 39'...but I agree, that was a good thread too. :drink:

37 Stilletto right?

Either way that was my favorite, because it took such a turn when the dirty laundry came out.


This section should be a lesson to all. Selling a boat may be hard, but when you are desperate the con artist will find you....which will ultimately make your financial problems worse.

There is one constant I have seen in the five years of reading this section. The ones that have their ducks in a row seem to take little hits when this stuff happens. The ones that have made shady, impulsive, financially desperate descisions ALWAYS lose it all.

Need money quick? Sell some smaller items around the house on ebay or craigslist, but take the time and do the right steps when selling your boat........and keep the dayum insurance on it!

tinman565 06-14-2011 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3428802)
There is one constant I have seen in the five years of reading this section. The ones that have their ducks in a row seem to take little hits when this stuff happens. The ones that have made shady, impulsive, financially desperate descisions ALWAYS lose it all.

Need money quick? Sell some smaller items around the house on ebay or craigslist, but take the time and do the right steps when selling your boat........and keep the dayum insurance on it!

Wise words. You also gotta think about who's looking to buy your stuff. DJ-Danny looking for a Fountain woulda sent up reds flags for me. Kinda like a Hawaiian guy lookin at your snowmobile. It just aint right...lol. :drink:

4bus 06-14-2011 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by tinman565 (Post 3428812)
Wise words. You also gotta think about who's looking to buy your stuff. DJ-Danny looking for a Fountain woulda sent up reds flags for me. Kinda like a Hawaiian guy lookin at your snowmobile. It just aint right...lol. :drink:

I think GA has equal opportunity selling laws, so he really did not have a choice :drink:

Fountain4402 06-14-2011 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by Downtown42 (Post 3428704)
A 43' did = CARDSHARK :eek:

No they dont. Owner either leaves keys in boats, unlocked trailer, boat left in a unsecure area. Boat left in a place where there was no people around. Once boat was stolen owner or police did not act quick enough. There are some impressive theives in the world and if they want stuff they will get it. But something like 80% of theft crimes are due to owner negligence ie, leavings chit unlocked, not hardening your property, ie locks, covers, security, lighted areas, etc.

Alot of these cases you can probably bet the owner was in it for insurance. Boat was costing them to much so they figured they would chop it up or sink it and pay off loan or they just wanted a new boat.

4bus 06-14-2011 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3428843)
Alot of these cases you can probably bet the owner was in it for insurance. Boat was costing them to much so they figured they would chop it up or sink it and pay off loan or they just wanted a new boat.

And the insurance companies are getting wise! A friend of mine ripped his drive off on a rock pile last summer, insurance paid. At the end of the season he went to take his boat off the lift and his 30ft aluminum trailer was gone, stolen from the marina. He called insurance on that as well, took them 2 months to replace. They ran credit reports on both him and his wife, checked their last year tax statements, verified they were both still employed, and came to their house to make sure they were not "living beyond their means".

Had one thing been out of place he might not have gotten paid. The reason the insurance company gave him for investigating: "People are stripping their boats, making claims to raise money, then replacing the parts with the ones they took off"

Cash Bar 06-14-2011 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3428854)
And the insurance companies are getting wise! A friend of mine ripped his drive off on a rock pile last summer, insurance paid. At the end of the season he went to take his boat off the lift and his 30ft aluminum trailer was gone, stolen from the marina. He called insurance on that as well, took them 2 months to replace. They ran credit reports on both him and his wife, checked their last year tax statements, verified they were both still employed, and came to their house to make sure they were not "living beyond their means".

Had one thing been out of place he might not have gotten paid. The reason the insurance company gave him for investigating: "People are stripping their boats, making claims to raise money, then replacing the parts with the ones they took off"

That's a crock of crap , too. If I pay the premiums, whether or not I pay my other bills is IRRELEVANT. :angry-smiley-038:

If the insurance company thinks I did it for the cash they can certainly REPLACE the trailer instead of handing me a check.

Fountain4402 06-14-2011 10:21 AM

Either way guys a lot of people out there have done this kind of stuff and will continue to do this. Everheard of Amway, multi billion dollar company owner also owns the Orlando Magic. Well his dad and his friend mysteriously were sunk out on a boat in the big lake. Word has it that money from the boat started the business. So it happens.

LaughingCat 06-15-2011 08:47 AM

I voted for "Justin is out of luck" because he didn't register the boat int eh first place. He cannot prove ownership therefore, he cannot prove theft. It seems that the Texas owner might be the one. But he got his money from Justin. So Justin is outta luck.

The Texas owner might be a little pissed if he knew that Justin didn't register and officially take ownership. Who would have liability if Justin cause a wreck with massive damage, injury or death and not enough insurance to cover it? If he didn't register it to skirt paying taxes, why would he insure it, or insure it enough? So the injured might look at the last registered owner and sue Mr. Texas.

Fountain4402 06-15-2011 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by LaughingCat (Post 3429635)
I voted for "Justin is out of luck" because he didn't register the boat int eh first place. He cannot prove ownership therefore, he cannot prove theft. It seems that the Texas owner might be the one. But he got his money from Justin. So Justin is outta luck.

The Texas owner might be a little pissed if he knew that Justin didn't register and officially take ownership. Who would have liability if Justin cause a wreck with massive damage, injury or death and not enough insurance to cover it? If he didn't register it to skirt paying taxes, why would he insure it, or insure it enough? So the injured might look at the last registered owner and sue Mr. Texas.

thats what bothers me, he had or has no way of ownership. But you see this all to often you go buy something or a buddy buys something and the previous owner never titled it or registered it in his name. makes no sense

fountainfan42 06-15-2011 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by Cash Bar (Post 3428877)
That's a crock of crap , too. If I pay the premiums, whether or not I pay my other bills is IRRELEVANT. :angry-smiley-038:

If the insurance company thinks I did it for the cash they can certainly REPLACE the trailer instead of handing me a check.

very well put .

Fountain4402 06-15-2011 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by fountainfan42 (Post 3429699)
very well put .

True, why do they do a credit report with all insurance? Insurance is a racket, plane and simple, you need it yes, but it should be your choice, and it shouldnt cost what it does.

LaughingCat 06-15-2011 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3429710)
True, why do they do a credit report with all insurance? Insurance is a racket, plane and simple, you need it yes, but it should be your choice, and it shouldnt cost what it does.

Oh Man. You are totally speaking to the choir on that one. I am insuring the item, not my credit rating.

Fountain4402 06-15-2011 01:06 PM

As long as you pay the bill the second you dont pull the coverage that should be how it works. But the bean counters have some sort of formula. I would say though people with poor credit usually have less things and dont take care of them

SDFever 06-15-2011 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by Cash Bar (Post 3428877)
That's a crock of crap , too. If I pay the premiums, whether or not I pay my other bills is IRRELEVANT. :angry-smiley-038:

If the insurance company thinks I did it for the cash they can certainly REPLACE the trailer instead of handing me a check.

It's not quite that simple if there is suspicion with the carrier.

LaughingCat 06-15-2011 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3429915)
As long as you pay the bill the second you dont pull the coverage that should be how it works. But the bean counters have some sort of formula. I would say though people with poor credit usually have less things and dont take care of them

They can obviously use some twisted logic like that. They ask about your history of making claims, they look at your driving record. But credit rating shouldn't matter.

Inspector 06-15-2011 07:36 PM

Hey Tinman, did Danny Boy vote twice or did the PI and Sheriff register and vote?

phragle 06-15-2011 08:14 PM

credit rating shows responsibility. the more responsible someone is the less chance of them doing something stupid resulting in a claim.

PARADISE ISLAND 06-15-2011 09:17 PM

Enough claims they put you on a clue list!:eek:In some states a guy with good credit pays less than a good driver!Go figure but like someone stated good credit less chance of hankey pankey:angry-smiley-038:Still think this whole story smells fishy that boat whould be back in my possesion with in days!:blaster:

Fountain4402 06-16-2011 07:00 AM

True or I would have had insurance to cover it. But you are right better credit does show better responsibiliy and to be frank bad credit probably means you cant pay your bills. I think its a crock but I can see why too.

My question is if you owned an insurance company what would be your criteria when issueing polices?

johnlomant 06-16-2011 02:52 PM

Justin gets boat back

justincasey57 06-16-2011 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by johnlomant (Post 3430938)
Justin gets boat back

I'll second that John... anyone know how crow tastes?

1MOSES1 06-16-2011 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by justincasey57 (Post 3431096)
I'll second that John... anyone know how crow tastes?

lots to learn my friend...thats not what crow tastes like. it should have never gotten to this point.

lake speed 06-16-2011 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by 2fast9tech2 (Post 3431101)
lots to learn my friend...thats not what crow tastes like. it should have never gotten to this point.

to what point? the kids boat was stolen from him and everyone on here basically ripped him a new one. he got the boat back bottom line.

1MOSES1 06-16-2011 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by lake speed (Post 3431104)
to what point? the kids boat was stolen from him and everyone on here basically ripped him a new one. he got the boat back bottom line.

i dont know all of the facts as im sure you dont either but why would you ever buy/accept a car without a title, car fax, etc.

a little research goes a long way nowadays.


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