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Originally Posted by CigDaze
(Post 3758816)
Sorry, but I fail to see how 'Sht for brains' and 'bananahead' are on topic.
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As I read back through this thread to confirm who were the worst offenders regarding personal attacks, I noticed that some of the more colorful contributors have, except for their quoted posts, vanished like a fart in the wind.
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Originally Posted by JPD Motorsports
(Post 3758801)
Alas I dont belive you would be the right mod to regulate this thread for the ties in the racing world protecting or not. I know the racing world is tight as watch each others back be meaning so or not.... . Other than that, carry on. |
Originally Posted by huskyrider
(Post 3758812)
Why does it always seem like those with the jingle pay and walk while those with less coin take the hickey of time.
Judging by what I read here about the other guys plea bargain agreement with the New York prosecutors he'll probably only get a slap on the wrist/wallet too with a short little probated sentence. It appears to me that if the boat would have been stolen there nobody would have been incarcerated for any of that mess, they could just cop to the lowest charge, pay a fine, and flush the rest. I guess the lowest person in the group who committed his crime in Texas will be the only one who'll end up serving time for his actions. See ya, Kelly |
Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J
(Post 3758844)
My bad. I was just having a laugh. Judging by the reply from GG he didn't take it to heart and was having a laugh of his own. JPD made a good point though about some of the other threads. :ernaehrung004:
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Originally Posted by pslonaker
(Post 3758880)
The owner of the Cardshark came out the winner...no more boat...no more payments...he got the money.
I would be inclined to believe the boat was stolen without any involvement from him. Had he been a conspirator there certainly would have been sworn statements implicating him during the investigation and testimony while arguing the cases. Plus IMO, there's NO WAY the insurance company would let him off the hook on that kind of offense against their company had they caught wind of it. See ya, Kelly |
Originally Posted by huskyrider
(Post 3758937)
I disagree.
I would be inclined to believe the boat was stolen without any involvement from him. Had he been a conspirator there certainly would have been sworn statements implicating him during the investigation and testimony while arguing the cases. Plus IMO, there's NO WAY the insurance company would let him off the hook on that kind of offense against their company had they caught wind of it. See ya, Kelly "Skater boat salesman contacted jeff asking about making a boat go away. Jeff said it could be done. Skater boat guy called performance motor builder guy and relayed it to him. Performance motor builder guy contacted the owner (omitting his name but initials are D.H.). D.H. stated he didnt want to know about it. Performance motor builder guy contacted Skater boat sales guy, then Skater boat guy contacted Jeff. The Cardshark was placed in a very convenient spot away from anyother boats and all locks that were previously on the trailer were removed. (One of the employees at the performance motor builders place told the investigators this) Two days later, the Cardshark was gone and less than 24 hours later, the Cardshark was at Activator boat place where Angelo paid Jeff for the delivery." Now this is what was told to the Sherman investigators and also Markel investigators, but with only one person saying it and three others denying it...Markel had no choice, but if you contact the investigators in Sherman and Markel, they will tell you that they do believe it. And since one of the three players got himself immunity...that also closed the door on anything happeneing to him. No key testimony from the Skater boat sales guy who originated all this...and you are racing a dead horse. This is what was told to me when I asked questions way back in the beginning by the investigators. |
Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J
(Post 3758844)
My bad. I was just having a laugh.
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According to http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/webc...efendantSearch, these are the new next court dates and status' of the 7 still in NY's court system.
--------------------------------- Jeffrey Cropper next app. 9-6-12 PL 165.50 00 D Felony, 1 count, Not an arrest charge, Not an arraignment charge Cpsp-3rd:value Of Prop > $3000 Indictment Count2 Date Added04/05/2011 PL 145.10 00 D Felony, 1 count, Not an arrest charge, Not an arraignment charge Criminal Mischief - 2nd Indictment Count3 Date Added04/05/2011 PL 105.10 01 E Felony, 1 count, Not an arrest charge, Not an arraignment charge Conspiracy -4th Indictment Count4 Date Added04/05/2011 PL 165.52 00 **TOP CHARGE** C Felony, 1 count, Not an arrest charge, Not an arraignment charge Cpsp-2nd:value Of Prop >$50000 Indictment Count1 Date Added04/05/2011 ------------------------------------- Curtis Cropper next app. 9-6-12 PL 145.00 00 A Misdemeanor, 1 count, Not an arrest charge, Not an arraignment charge Criminal Mischief - 4th Indictment Count2 Date Added04/23/2012 Pled Guilty PL 165.52 00 C Felony, 2 counts, Arrest charge, Arraignment charge Cpsp-2nd:value Of Prop >$50000 Indictment Count2 Covered By Pl 145.00 00 PL 145.10 00 **TOP CHARGE** D Felony, 2 counts, Arrest charge, Arraignment charge Criminal Mischief - 2nd Indictment Count1 Covered By Pl 145.00 00 Curtis Cropper next app. 9-6-12 176.25 00 C Felony, 1 count, Arrest charge, Arraignment charge Insurance Fraud 2nd: > $50000 Indictment Count3 Covered By Pl 176.20 00 PL 175.35 00 **TOP CHARGE** E Felony, 1 count, Arrest charge, Arraignment charge Offr Fle Fls Instrmnt-1st Indictment Count1 Covered By Pl 176.20 00 PL 240.50 3A A Misdemeanor, 1 count, Arrest charge, Arraignment charge False Rpt-incident Didnt Occur Indictment Count2 Covered By Pl 176.20 00 PL 176.20 00 D Felony, 1 count, Not an arrest charge, Not an arraignment charge Insurance Fraud 3rd>3000 Indictment Count3 Date Added04/23/2012 Pled Guilty Curtis Cropper next app. 10-5-12 PL 105.10 00 **TOP CHARGE** E Felony, 1 count, Arrest charge, Arraignment charge Conspiracy -4th --------------------------------------- James Winters next app. 8-28-12 PL 170.70 03 **TOP CHARGE** E Felony, 1 count, Not an arrest charge, Not an arraignment charge Poss Illegal Veh Id No Plate Indictment Count7 Date Added04/05/2011 PL 165.52 00 C Felony, 1 count, Not an arrest charge, Not an arraignment charge Cpsp-2nd:value Of Prop >$50000 Indictment Count8 Date Added04/05/2011 PL 105.10 01 E Felony, 1 count, Not an arrest charge, Not an arraignment charge Conspiracy -4th Indictment Count9 Date Added04/05/2011 ------------------------------------ Joseph Sgro next app. 9-14-12 PL 145.00 00 A Misdemeanor, 1 count, Not an arrest charge, Not an arraignment charge Criminal Mischief - 4th Indictment Count1 Date Added11/16/2011 Pled Guilty PL 105.10 01 **TOP CHARGE** E Felony, 2 counts, Arrest charge, Not an arraignment charge Conspiracy -4th Indictment Count1 Covered By Pl 145.00 00 ------------------------------------ Richard Mach next app. 9-6-12 PL 175.10 00 E Felony, 1 count, Not an arrest charge, Not an arraignment charge Falsify Busines Rcrds-1st Indictment Count3 Date Added04/05/2011 Covered By Pl 175.05 00 PL 175.05 00 A Misdemeanor, 1 count, Not an arrest charge, Not an arraignment charge Falsify Business Recs-2nd Indictment Count1 Date Added12/07/2011 Pled Guilty PL 175.10 00 **TOP CHARGE** E Felony, 1 count, Not an arrest charge, Not an arraignment charge Falsify Busines Rcrds-1st Indictment Count1 Date Added04/05/2011 Covered By Pl 175.05 00 PL 155.40 00 C Felony, 1 count, Not an arrest charge, Not an arraignment charge Grand Larceny 2nd Indictment Count2 Date Added04/05/2011 Covered By Pl 175.05 00 PL 105.10 01 E Felony, 1 count, Not an arrest charge, Not an arraignment charge Conspiracy -4th Indictment Count9 Date Added04/05/2011 Covered By Pl 175.05 00 ---------------------------------- Jason Stieglitz next app. 9-5-12 155.40 00 C Felony, 1 count, Not an arrest charge, Not an arraignment charge Grand Larceny 2nd Indictment Count2 Date Added04/05/2011 PL 176.25 00 C Felony, 1 count, Not an arrest charge, Not an arraignment charge Insurance Fraud 2nd: > $50000 Indictment Count4 Date Added04/05/2011 PL 105.10 01 E Felony, 1 count, Not an arrest charge, Not an arraignment charge Conspiracy -4th Indictment Count9 Date Added04/05/2011 PL 176.20 00 D Felony, 1 count, Not an arrest charge, Not an arraignment charge Insurance Fraud 3rd>3000 Indictment Count5 Date Added04/05/2011 PL 175.10 00 E Felony, 1 count, Not an arrest charge, Not an arraignment charge Falsify Busines Rcrds-1st Indictment Count3 Date Added04/05/2011 PL 175.10 00 **TOP CHARGE** E Felony, 1 count, Not an arrest charge, Not an arraignment charge Falsify Busines Rcrds-1st Indictment Count1 Date Added04/05/2011 -------------------------------------- Jason R. Stieglitz next app. 9-5-12 PL 170.70 02 **TOP CHARGE** E Felony, 1 count, Arrest charge, Arraignment charge Pos Of Veh Idnt No Indictment Count1 |
I look at that and laugh guess you guys under estimate NY lawyers!:blahblah:You have to murder a girl scout to get put in jail here:lolhit::lolhit:Looks like Texas guy got rail roaded:party-smiley-004:
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