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Keith Atlanta 03-06-2014 08:21 PM

What were the actual sequence of events that led to the "broken" parts?

Did the boat even start when it arrived?

Eliminatorshane 03-06-2014 10:08 PM

Here's an actual example from 3 weeks ago. I had a customer bring his donzi in to be fixed for a scrape on bottom and he had sold it and buying a 28 foot donzi I believe in boston. We get his done and it leaves for Houston to its new owner. Joe calls me 3 days later on the donzi he was buying and was sad that the transom didn't pass the survey and had signs of water in cylinder. He spent 800 for nothing some say. But like me and him agree that he spent 800 to save several thousand in immediate repairs. This is a hobby and an expensive one at that but I will pay for a survey no problem on next boat. Congrats on your new boat and have fun with it.

djkool99usa 03-10-2014 04:01 AM


Originally Posted by Cigtech43 (Post 4085521)
Guys, I now own the 42 Nortech in question.

So if you know the site and obviously signed up for the site back in December how come you have a proxy here and attempt to handle YOUR business and drag YOUR business out into the open? Not to mention dragging other people through the mud along with you. Its real easy these days to type and hide behind a keyboard, however who knows if you have caused Lake Ozark Marine or others money down the road because you and or your proxy couldnt pick up the phone and deal with this like an adult.

djkool99usa 03-10-2014 04:02 AM


Originally Posted by Cigtech43 (Post 4085583)
Guys, I had this long explanation written out but accidently erased it and just don't have the time right now to go back and fill back in all the details. Its kind of a crappy situation for all involved but Ed has been great to deal with and has never not once taken my call in regards to this situation. Yes there was a problem with the motor when it got to me. Several severely broken lifters that did a lot of damage to the engine. We all know the shoulda woulda coulda's on this situation apply to all 3 of us involved. Buyer/broker/seller. We all share in the blame in. Ed has stepped up big time to offer some financial support because he feels bad, the seller has not. We will get through it and life will go on.

How about you poof this thread gone then as to not tarnish Eddies reputation....seems fair right.

johnnyboatman 03-10-2014 02:39 PM

I didnt think he(cigtech43) mentioned any ones name in a bad manner.He stated ed has went out of his way to help settle the deal. And as in anyone here that says that if they bought a boat worth 150.000 for 100.000 and was told it had no issues. Then when you first fired it up something was wrong and you wouldnt be mad. Then im calling bull**** money is money, time is time. Im sure the customer would had bought a diff boat if he'd known of engine issues. As buying without seeing, i purchased a 35 fountain from Jim Earl Marine in canada and when it got here i was very pleased with the deal. So not all sight unseen deals are a waste.And ive seen some peoples ideal of a clean boat, and others and theres no comparison.

Cigtech43 03-10-2014 05:46 PM

Djkool99usa. I have no proxy, but just like LOTO its a small boating community. A lot of people know me and know what happened and have spoke out with some of there opinions and with questions. I would have rather of kept this under wraps. As far as my membership goes, I had to upgrade it so that I could put my other boat for sale. Your remarks are exactly why I don't post here because all it does is stir the pot. After this thread took off I did draft a simple explanation to what the situation was and to how it was being handled. Hope this helps you feel better.

djkool99usa 03-10-2014 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by johnnyboatman (Post 4087354)
I didnt think he(cigtech43) mentioned any ones name in a bad manner.He stated ed has went out of his way to help settle the deal. And as in anyone here that says that if they bought a boat worth 150.000 for 100.000 and was told it had no issues. Then when you first fired it up something was wrong and you wouldnt be mad. Then im calling bull**** money is money, time is time. Im sure the customer would had bought a diff boat if he'd known of engine issues. As buying without seeing, i purchased a 35 fountain from Jim Earl Marine in canada and when it got here i was very pleased with the deal. So not all sight unseen deals are a waste.And ive seen some peoples ideal of a clean boat, and others and theres no comparison.

First post...."Hey fellas. Looking for a good Lawyer to help out a family member and fellow board member. He bought a boat from dealer down south that was MISREPRESENTED." Not sure about you but that sounds like calling someone out. If in fact Eddie did step up to the plate this thread should be deleted.

djkool99usa 03-10-2014 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by Cigtech43 (Post 4087459)
Djkool99usa. I have no proxy, but just like LOTO its a small boating community. A lot of people know me and know what happened and have spoke out with some of there opinions and with questions. I would have rather of kept this under wraps. As far as my membership goes, I had to upgrade it so that I could put my other boat for sale. Your remarks are exactly why I don't post here because all it does is stir the pot. After this thread took off I did draft a simple explanation to what the situation was and to how it was being handled. Hope this helps you feel better.

You may have wanted this under wraps but a family member came on here and came here asking for a lawyer regarding YOUR transaction. Thereby Eddie had to come forward and defend himself. He has stated that he has stepped up and done his part. You claim the seller has been less than helpful. Have the mods move this to the deleted section if Eddie stepped up and have at it with the individual you have a problem with then.

Griff 03-11-2014 01:51 AM

Ed's quick response to this thread and the replies he posted only examplify the integrity he has.

I'm sure everybody would like turn the clock back on this deal, but that can't happen.

4bus 03-11-2014 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by Keith Atlanta (Post 4085681)
What were the actual sequence of events that led to the "broken" parts?

Did the boat even start when it arrived?

Gonna shoot a wild guess out- It was stated the chiller was leaking, the water intrusion from the end of season (unknowingly) showed its face on the initial start up. Stuck valves or water in the cylinders on startup surely caused the problem.

Anyone that has been around a 1000hp can state it is not easy to tell when they are getting a little water intrusion. That water/antifreeze sitting over the long winter months is going to cause problems come spring. If it wasn't caused by water, a broken rocker on a high HP set up is not that uncommon. I know guys with big power that carry spare rockers on board.

As a seller I wouldn't sell my boat right now in winter storage, I would want to at least start it up first. As a buyer there is no way I would purchase a boat without at least starting it. This was one of the coldest winters on record, how could you be sure everything was ok based on last fall? Even videos of the engines running before purchase, paying for new antifreeze after the fact, its a digital age! If I were a Jury I would put 90 percent blame on buyer, 10 percent on seller, and zero on broker.

The fact that Eddie stepped up is simply amazing. In a day when brokers are protecting themselves as "real brokers" vs internet sellers that offer no value, Eddie has shown his value to the buyer and seller.


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