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endeavor1
03-03-2014 08:14 PM
Originally Posted by abmotorman
(Post 4083589)
non step 62 mph max, on a good day. That's with going with current and wind helping. Probably more like 58 mph.
FYI, straight bottom 43 flat deck with 525efis (2) runs 73gps on the limiters and isn't much lighter. There really wasn't a ton of speed difference in the stepped to non stepped boats with 500s. If I remember correctly, Bruce' and Brett's former 43 straight bottom tall deck ran right at 80 or close with 650hp Atecos. Full cabin with a gen so she wasn't light either.
abmotorman
03-04-2014 04:05 PM
I'm hearing you. Especially with the engines you reference. But the one's I've seen 502 and HP500'S had 24 pitch prop's. Pushing that big bit*ch probably causes some slip, which makes any other math then mine a stretch. Again, with the engines I'm describing.
excursion
03-13-2014 06:57 PM
Originally Posted by endeavor1
(Post 4083953)
FYI, straight bottom 43 flat deck with 525efis (2) runs 73gps on the limiters and isn't much lighter. There really wasn't a ton of speed difference in the stepped to non stepped boats with 500s. If I remember correctly, Bruce' and Brett's former 43 straight bottom tall deck ran right at 80 or close with 650hp Atecos. Full cabin with a gen so she wasn't light either.
I don't know which 500 boats you have been in but a non-stepped versus a stepped bottom boat there is a huge difference, if you call 7 mph huge.
endeavor1
03-14-2014 04:16 PM
Originally Posted by excursion
(Post 4089376)
I don't know which 500 boats you have been in but a non-stepped versus a stepped bottom boat there is a huge difference, if you call 7 mph huge.
Owned 2 stepped tall deck 43s ( 99 and 01 ) with 500s, 97 43 flat deck straight bottom, and a 02 46 tall deck with 675/700 KE motors. The straight bottom tall deck I referred to was a 97 and again, I mentioned the power it had. If there's 7mph between a straight and stepped hull, I'd be very very surprised. 4mph I could see. The hull design changes never really came into play until the 2007 era machines. Honestly, a few years ago, my friend who owns the 2005 46 No Compromise and I parked as close together as we could to compare my 43 hull. Identical running surface, step placement, strikes and etc minus his had the notches taken out of the side from the rear step to the transom. ( not sure what they really helped)
As far as speed goes, (you claiming 7 mph) was this with matched inputs ie, HP vintage, ambient temp, water conditions? All I'm getting at is that there are lots of factors that come into play getting these pigs to run an honest 70mph with HP500 power. My boats speeds have always been GPS not wish-o-meter.
Now, your boat which I believe is still for sale, looks to be a nice machine and package. Ive strongly considered contacting you about it as my Cig is now sold, however I may hold out till I find another EC 46.
endeavor1
03-23-2014 05:53 PM
Any others out there unlisted?
fglightning
03-23-2014 06:21 PM
My friend from Milwaukee told me he was thinking about putting up his 2002 46 ec. I can give you his phone number if you would like. Just send me a PM
Bryan
endeavor1
03-25-2014 07:27 PM
Originally Posted by fglightning
(Post 4094523)
My friend from Milwaukee told me he was thinking about putting up his 2002 46 ec. I can give you his phone number if you would like. Just send me a PM
Bryan
Pm sent
abmotorman
03-26-2014 05:39 PM
Didn't know there was a 46 in Milwaukee. Seen a 43 many times. Any pictures? Is this friend on OSO? Andy
fglightning
03-26-2014 06:30 PM
My friend is not on OSO. I don't have any pictures at this time.
