1987 Chris Craft - 41' Stinger
 

Anyone know either of these two boats? Is there anything you would be worried about? I have been shopping for awhile now, I am new to performance boats

Ebay Item #270105678034

I saw that auction on ebay this past weekend. I don't believe the boat with the curved windshield is a stinger - at least it doesn't look like any stinger I've ever seen.

The 39' stinger looks like it is in some bad shape - not sure how much it would cost to repair the 'glass work' done on the side of the boat. The interior is looking like it needs a lot of work too - I can't be 100% sure, but from the interior shot, there is a piece that runs width-wise on the ceiling to support the deck above, and it looks like it might be bent/warped, etc. There was a nicer 39' stinger for auction on ebay - check out item 140096446487.

What about the 42'? I figured you can use a few things from the 39 to make a good 42'

My dad and I are looking for something around 38' plus that is decent may need some TLC for around $15,000 to $25,000. Not sure what make or model, we have looked at a few. Just looking for Help! and things to look for that are good and bad

I Have A 1985 39 Stinger Mint For Sale Give Me A Call 586-703-6279 Jim

The 41's and the 39's were almost identical boats. They added the integral platform to the boat in 87 and made it 2 feet longer. The hull bottom is the same. I have a 1983 Scorpion which is the same as the Stinger except with the raised deck for more headroom in the cabin. It also has a larger cockpit than the Stinger because they moved the windshield forward 2 feet. They all have the bottom from the Excalibur 40' Hawk. The design is a little slow. Mine runs in the low 70's with twin 630 HP 540's. When it had the 420's it was around 56 mph. If you are seriously looking, drop me a line. Wife thinks I should sell it since I bought the Black Thunder.

I got the Hull# from the 41' and ran a Boat History report. all came back clean but I have a few questions. That seems to be wrong Length is 42', Beam is 15' that can not be right and the Gross Ton are 14 and Net tons 11. to me that seem way off. In the description it says 9' Beam. legal road width is 8.5' have you guys ever had a DOT problem pulling these wide boats? Anyone know the wet weight of this boat? I am thinking around 12,000 lbs. Will Chris Craft give me any information if I call them?

Lets see it...

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Dug through my old mags, etc. No test in 86 or 87 on the 390 or 410. Powerboat did the 312 those years. I do not have a 1986 or 1987 brochure. I do have the 1985 brochure with the 390X. In 1985, the specs. were, length 39', beam 9', weight (boat only) 9760 lbs., fuel capacity 200 gallons, fresh water capacity 18 gallons, add 2588 lbs for 2-370 Mercruisers or add 2560 lbs. for 2-400 Mercruisers. These specs are almost identical to my 1983 specs.

Never had a problem towing, or with the Black Thunder at 9.5' wide. Just make sure your trailer is only 8.5 wide. The biggest concern if towing a lot is, if you get in an accident, will your insurance pay if not properly licensed and permitted?

This whole boat has been gone through. The engines are updated with Dart intake, world products heads, Inconel SS steel valves, Gold crane roller rockers, etc. They have 1Hr Dyno time on them and 1Hr in the water. The Borg-Warner green tag velvet drives are brand new not rebuilt. The steering is tight, the transom assemblies are rebuilt, drives have low hrs. The boat has VDO gauges, a combination GPS and Radar system, Onan generator, 10 Disk CD changer, amps, 6 6x9 speakers and 2 subwoofers. The stereo has its own dedicated battery and charger. Custom built TV/VCR microwave cabinets. The entire interior in the cockpit and cabin were replaced, electric fold down boaster seats and new marine air-conditioning /heater 4-5 years ago. The bathroom has a sink, hot water shower, and new electric Marine head. 1999 tri axle Aluminum slide on trailer. I am the second owner and asking $65,000. I might take a partial trade. Call me @ 1-920-420-4300 and we will take her for a ride.. Located in Pickett Wisconsin.
Length: 41' Year: 1987 Location: Wisconsin Asking: $65,000 Details & Photos »

For sale on the web.

:evilb: Hear Is My Pic Give Me A Call 586-703-6279

What permittes are you talking about? and i assume the licensed means trailer plates for the right weight

That's not a 415. Chris Craft never made a Stinger with that windscreen. There is going to be a problem. I emailed the guy and he says his title says it's Chris Craft. I would double check the hull numbers and make sure it matches his title. It looks to me to be a Formula 382 SR-1. That exhaust setup is a patented Formula deal. That boat doesn't have a 9' beam like a Stinger should. The Formula is worth more. If you can get it titled right I'd go for it.

TomZ should have the weight and size specs for that year on a brochure I recently gave him when I sold him my 222 Stinger. Drop him a PM if you still want the info.

The boat with the big "stinger" name down the side looks like an older model from Formula/Thunderbird to me based on the built-in rectangular exhaust outlets (aka silent thunder exhaust), windshield profile and dash layout.

I also concur with dinger. The questionable one does NOT have a dash that I've ever seen on a Stinger.

In 1987 Chris Craft made a 42' Catalina with a 15' beam and gross weight of 30,000 lbs.* It sounds like the number he gave you is from the title to a Catalina.

*Source = NADAguides.com

you are dead on..............I looked at this boat two years ago and i asked the guy if it was a formula he said no " its a cigarette" Then i knew he did not know sheet.............The guys own a boat junk yard in monroe mi....The boat has been there for 3 years or longer.....It is not bad looking for the right money it would be a nice ride

Permits would be for an oversized load. Too wide. Fairly cheap in Michigan and easy to get. If way wide, like Hotrodders Cary, other vehicles front and rear and they give you the route to follow.

After reading the other responses, I think they are right. The transom looks like a Formula and the curved windshield also. There is a 42 Chris (415) in the classifieds you can look at. Maybe the guys on the Formula board can figure it out if you ask over there. I don't know what year or model it is.

What do you guys think is a fair price? would you worry about the title? The boat does have a IN reg number and I wonder if some one can back door and get some info from that number. Does Formula put a HIN number somewhere else?? I will post a few questions on the forumla board

Thanks All of you guys are being very very helpful

Formula puts the HIN number on the upper corner of the transom, starboard side.

The "Stinger" with the red, white, black graphics is NOT a Formula.

Red dog made this comment on the other thread do you guys agree??? Reddog just looking for more input not saying you are not telling the truth..

"Have heard Stingers had a major problem with rotted stringers. I would have a very extensive structural survey done on this boat if you are still considering buying it."

Thanks

Mike

I talked to Chris Craft. They said the HIN is for the right boat.

CC= Chris Craft
B=Plant location
AL= 39' Stinger
116= Hull #
J= month built
686= made is 86 but 97 model year

Mike,

No offense taken. I would encourage you to do as much research and learn as much as possible before dropping this kind of money into something and getting burned. Some of us have learned things the hard way and boaters (especially OSO'ers) try to look out for one another.

I have nothing against Chris Craft ... really liked the red Stinger Mel Gibson had in the movie "Tequila Sunrise".

Chris

i will keep everyone posted and thanks again for all the help and looking after!

Mike

Congrats on your bid. So when do you pick it up?

I was wondering if anyone was watching. or who I was bidding against if anyone from here. I already have someone wanting the 39'. Trying to get a few things lined up before pick-up. I made a few calls about the HIN and the IN# and it is the right boat. I just need to make sure the lean holder is signed off on the title from 2002. I just need to make sure everything is sound. From talking to the guy and emailing him everything seems to be. Has anyone ever put a Hemi in one of these??? All Alum??

Thanks for all the response and info from everyone. When I get it back I will take lots of pics and post them

Mike

I have a complete Turn Key Excalibur Hawk 40 with twin 425HP 454's and trs drives. Also has a target trailer. I would let it go for 22,500. The Stinger 390 came from the Excalibur mold and are identical boats.

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BTW, that 41 in the auction is not a Stinger. The 41 stingers had a tall raised deck, square windshield, and porthole windows on the hull sides. I would be very cautious here, there could be a reason the boat is titled under a different vin. Insurance scams, stolen, etc.

Here is a a pic of a 87 415. With the Arch being different directions I can not see port windows and the glass is curved at the bottom. It is hard to see in that area. I got this from Chris Craft

Looking at the pics again, I'm starting to see the Formula guys' points. There could very well be a 390x underneath some modifications. They boxed in the rear ventilation and made it line up to a Furmula style rear end. Inside the bilge the transom looks flat. On my 375 which has a molded in platform, you can see the mold from the inside. The dash is close enough to have been modified. Look at the shifter controls. They have the same style box all the way down. They updated the look with the Taylormade glass with that little custom aluminum piece to bridge the gap to the arch.

When you get it, take a look at the structural stuff, like where and how the gas and holding tanks are mounted, and compare it to the other 390 you're getting. It just might be that someone had a 390x in the mid nineties and instead of spending a fortune on a new boat, threw 10k in modifications at it and had themselves a very nice updated Stinger.

I am taking a chance that is the case. I will know alot more once I see it. What is your thoughts on the other one? If I wanted to sell it like it is? Or would to sink money into it and try to sell it for 30g? Or sell it as is and take that money and put it into the nicer boat.

Mike

That's a tough one. I guess it depends on what your fiberglass guy says it takes to fix the ugly one. Also the condition of the motors that are in it. Would you keep them where they are or move them to the better boat. You could probably fix that 390, re-mount the drives, repair the interior, and sell it for 25-30K. Then take that $ and buy motors and drives for the nice boat.

If it's too much to fix the side of the boat. Transfer the motors and drives to the nice boat and your done. Sell that other hull for a few thousand (When they're stripped, they don't bring much).

JoyRide,

How far are you from Tyler, TX??

About 2hrs. Tyler is 90 minutes east of Dallas and I'm about 30 north of Dallas. Lake Dallas was the original name of Lake Lewisville. The town is still called Lake Dallas.

Just wondering I may be going down there for work in a month

Picked one of them up on friday here are a few pic's
Everything looked very sound and solid. except for the back seat and deck lid. The boat was updated looking at everything face to face you can see signs. The dash panel was all new you can see new fiberglass. Also the same with the exhaust. It was not factory. I will have LOTS of questions so be ready!. I have had boats all my life just not HP ones. I am good with a wrench just need some knowledge!!

Mike

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