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*7 chris craft stinger 202
Hi guys new to the site.I just picked up a stinger after i sold my baja last year i was lookin for something less expensive so I could justify only using it a dozen times a year.
I won't say how much i paid for the boat because i am sure it was too much but it needs a new interior new paint and some emgine controls.It also has cracked manifolds and a leaky water pump. My initial thought was to drop a 400 small block that i took out of my s10 before sale.now i dont know if there is enough room to do it without making it a huge project . I wanted through hull exhaust but cant see where to put them without relocating the steering. also not real comfortable with cutting holesa in the transom. I never really modded a boat before but have lots of experience with cars and trucks and engine work.the motor that is in it is the 4.3 205hp.I am oalso thinkin of modding the six as my dad has one in a car that makes 330whp.we had the boat in the water for a pre-sale run and it did 58 on gps. The boat only has 400 hrs on it but was not stored properly(at all) for the last six years. I have to completely redo the interior/ bulkhead? but the stringers and transom look good. If any one has any ideas or suggestions about direction on motor, interior ,or exterior work/color schemes I would appreciate it. Thanks Nate |
The 400 is basically just a SBC as far as mounting goes, so It should fit the same width mounts as the V6 (just stronger ones!) Post the measurements of the gap between the stringer beds and I'll tell you if its the same as my 222. If it is, you could fit a 632 in if you wanted!
If I were you, I'd stick the 400 in, the V6 will never make enough torque without serious mods and the 400 will perform much better anyway. Your Alpha will survive the 400 as long as you're not too abusive. Through transom exhaust is almost a must and it isn't that hard. If I were you, I'd start to look for an external ram hydraulic steering assembly with a hyd helm to match, you'll only need a single so you should be able to find one cheap. That way you'll free up space to fit the exhaust. Post pics of your new toy when you can. Good Luck, John :drink: |
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:bsflag: LOL You don't have to redo any of the steering to go to thru the hull.I did my 202 with eddie marine manifolds and risers.But stock merc center rise will work fine. I put mine above the rub rail, because when you have to slow down fast the water can run up the pipes on a 202. I'm running a injected 350 with a alpha works good. Also I find 58 on gps a lil hard to believe, unless somebody already removed the 120+ lbs of sand out of the front of the boat.. Any way post pics up of your progress on it.. :)
John http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...2f73b0f715.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...0075/004-4.jpg |
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You know I never thought of putting the exhaust out up there! Looks good though! Are the mounts for your 350 in the stock locations or did you have to move them or fabricate custom ones? |
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Ghost! Had to move them forward about 3" I did this by using a piece of alum angle 3x4.I will try to get you a pic.Other than that no big deal pay no attention to the bl flag,LOL Had I known to move the mounts foward,I would have done it when I redid the stringers,but I did them when the V6 was in it. Look at my 202 posts.Got this 202 running 80.Getting ready to rut a pro charger on it.HOLD ON. JOHN
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Bring her down here, we'll race.
My BBC has custom fabbed mounts that fit as caps over where the stock mounts went. If all you had to do was move them forward, that means the stringers are the same width as mine? That means Natewood's 400 will fit no problemo with some 'creative' mount manufacturing. If you want Natewood07, I'll post a pic of the ones Fastlane40 made for mine that I've beefed up a bit, they'll hold a 400 no worries and they're dead easy to make and install. Then you can really get moving! |
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Yes the stringer for big blocks small blocks and V6s are all the same c/c width.My stinger and my fountain have the same c/c width.My mounts took me about 1 hour to make it is not a big job.He could do it like yours or mine and be fine .JOHN
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Thanks for the replies everyone fenderjack if you could post those pics i will appreciate it. GHost nice boat!! I never thought of putting the exhaust that high. are you using a switchable system?
I guess I wont be putting the 400 in the boat I guess the cylinder walls are to thin and they will get too hot thats why people run 383s and not 400s or so i'm told.Anyone have input about that? I want a reliable boat not something I have to work on constantly. Also what are you guys doing about fuel tanks for it? I only have a 24 galoon tank and i think i need a bigger one if I put a sbc in it .Also what are the disadvantages? with the balllast out it cant be much heavier if I get a 60 gal made?? I will trt to get pics up soon i started pullin it apart before i thought about takin pics!! |
Fuel tank should be larger than 24 Gal. My 222 had 60 (top of tank actually says 61) and I'm pretty sure my 202 had like a 40 Gal. Shoot a PM to TomZ (he has my old 222) and he can look it up. He has all my original papers and brochures...
Also, my 202 with a 4.3 was nowhere near 58mph. Only low 50's by the speedo... |
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Originally Posted by Natewood07
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Thanks for the replies everyone fenderjack if you could post those pics i will appreciate it. GHost nice boat!! I never thought of putting the exhaust that high. are you using a switchable system?
I guess I wont be putting the 400 in the boat I guess the cylinder walls are to thin and they will get too hot thats why people run 383s and not 400s or so i'm told.Anyone have input about that? I want a reliable boat not something I have to work on constantly. Also what are you guys doing about fuel tanks for it? I only have a 24 galoon tank and i think i need a bigger one if I put a sbc in it .Also what are the disadvantages? with the balllast out it cant be much heavier if I get a 60 gal made?? I will trt to get pics up soon i started pullin it apart before i thought about takin pics!! |
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Your stock tank is a 40 gal (151lt) according to the original Chris Craft Sales Brochure I have. The 222 has a 60 Gal.
Your 400 won't get hot. Here are some pics of my mounts. They are channel caps with a brace plate welded to the inside to match the stringer width that are then bolted through the stringers. The motor is then mounted onto the two box sections which have the same size bolt welded through the box to the base as the original pedestal mounts. You make the box section so they're the right height for the mounts to sit on at the correct height then bolt the mounts on to secure!The box sections are bolted to the mounts, you lower the motor in and align it, mount the drive up, then tac weld the box sections to the stringer base mounts. You then pull the drive, lift the motor carefully, pop the cap sections back off the stringers, seam weld the bad boys up, re-install them, drop the motor back in, check your alignment, whack the drive back and away you go! If stress / vibration worries you, I'll let you know if my boat falls apart soon! I can't see any issues at the moment though. Can anyone else? Go on, put the 400 in, you know you want to! Regards, John :drink: |
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Ok! Ghost Didn't relize it but the mounts in a 222 and stringer lay out is different than a 202. Your mount won't work for him. I'll have to get him pic's of mine,or we will have him all messed up.He will be wanting to hang a outboard on it. LOL JOHN
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Nice, let's do that then, I won't have another egg beater powered Stinger on my conscience!
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Originally Posted by Ghostrider
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Your stock tank is a 40 gal (151lt) according to the original Chris Craft Sales Brochure I have. The 222 has a 60 Gal.
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They had a recall?
Mine still says 60 Gal and I doubt if they recalled it, the old owner would've sent it back up to USA from here! Is that bad? What was the problem I wonder? Natewood, Any pics of yours yet? |
not exactly sure about what the recall was about but it had something to do with the fuel tanks coming loose and either buckling the floors or cracking the bottoms....something like that
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My floor is buckeled,and my bottom cracked but it ain't from the tank coming loose,it's from excessive speed in 3' waves. LOL. JOHN
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Nice work on your Stinger!!
I will post some shots of mine when it's done. SSTORM
Originally Posted by Fenderjack
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:bsflag: LOL You don't have to redo any of the steering to go to thru the hull.I did my 202 with eddie marine manifolds and risers.But stock merc center rise will work fine. I put mine above the rub rail, because when you have to slow down fast the water can run up the pipes on a 202. I'm running a injected 350 with a alpha works good. Also I find 58 on gps a lil hard to believe, unless somebody already removed the 120+ lbs of sand out of the front of the boat.. Any way post pics up of your progress on it.. :)
John http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...2f73b0f715.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...0075/004-4.jpg |
fenderjack, could you tell me exactly where your exhaust comes through the hull? also with the sbc is it possible to use a switchable exhaust or is room an issue? i would love to see your engine mounts too i have a good idae how to do it but pics definately wont hurt. Oh and my stinger does 58 with the ballast bc the heads are ported it has elderbrock intake cam and 600cfm carb but the ballast is still in front. No need for me to BS you guys lol. Thanks for everything guys,
Nate |
oh and i wiil post pics tonight
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I cant post attachments?
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You need to upload them to photobucket, or a image hosting site then copy the image url. Once you did that you need to go to post reply on here(OSO) then click in the lil yellow box that has the sun and mountain in it(7 icon from the left in the reply box).. Then they will show up..
John jr |
I just shrink (compress) the pics I've got on my computer with MS Picture Manager, save them then click on the paper clip in the 'go advanced' tab for replies. It allows me to browse and upload pics from my computer direct without needing to learn how to photobucket or whatever.
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87 202 stinger
i just bought a 87 202 stinger with a 383 supercharged, ive had it up to 60 gps. the previous owner says it will do 80 which is a scary ride im sure i guess theres no sand in mine either.
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Sounds good. 80mph is achievable with the right engine / drive combo.
Post some pics or specs! We love to see other ideas on how to make ours go faster! Fastest I've had my 222 up to lately is about 70. Chine wallk hits at about 60 mph and rides out at about 65 then it's smooth and steady. I need to sort my prop issues out though! |
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