Gladiator pics
12-18-2006, 10:30 AM
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Re: Gladiator pics
Originally Posted by thisistank
I love it when you get all rialed up about Cigarette. 
Now don't kill the messanger here but this is what I was told from those in the know about factory support for SOME of the Cig race teams.
"Why would Cigarette give money to a team that does not win consistantly and does not have a solid racing (the team) history?"
Remember, I do believe they helped out somewhat when Phil raced the Rio Roses Cig.
Your other point about the Kilo boat I don't get. You have to at least give it to Skip for dumping endless coin into the kilo boat and attempt to go after the record. From what I heard, the boat would've done just fine if they would've padded the bottom. But that's not a Cigarette is it? So they could've padded the bottom and gone after it again and taken sh!t for changing the bottom of a one off boat to beat the record and basically not get credit for doing so since it wouldn't be a true Cigarette bottom, or they could just call it a day. They decided to go with second choice.
All in all though, it's like I said in the reply above. It's a shame they don't at least converse with the racers in thier boats. They don't have to poor money to them, but a little communication would be nice.
Now don't kill the messanger here but this is what I was told from those in the know about factory support for SOME of the Cig race teams.
"Why would Cigarette give money to a team that does not win consistantly and does not have a solid racing (the team) history?"
Remember, I do believe they helped out somewhat when Phil raced the Rio Roses Cig.
Your other point about the Kilo boat I don't get. You have to at least give it to Skip for dumping endless coin into the kilo boat and attempt to go after the record. From what I heard, the boat would've done just fine if they would've padded the bottom. But that's not a Cigarette is it? So they could've padded the bottom and gone after it again and taken sh!t for changing the bottom of a one off boat to beat the record and basically not get credit for doing so since it wouldn't be a true Cigarette bottom, or they could just call it a day. They decided to go with second choice.
All in all though, it's like I said in the reply above. It's a shame they don't at least converse with the racers in thier boats. They don't have to poor money to them, but a little communication would be nice.
12-18-2006, 12:45 PM
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Re: Gladiator pics
Originally Posted by Joe
It sounds like somebody reeeeeeally doesn't like Skip much! 
12-18-2006, 12:54 PM
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Re: Gladiator pics
Originally Posted by thisistank
My thing is, he hates Cig and Skip so much by he still owns a Cig. What gives?!
You know...... the same way we hear about everything else around here.
12-18-2006, 01:10 PM
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Re: Gladiator pics
Originally Posted by thisistank
My thing is, he hates Cig and Skip so much by he still owns a Cig. What gives?!
Will I buy another Cig?? Wouldnt own anything else..... It wont be a current model because there is no benefit. I would rather have Philly refurb my 03 or any other TS that I own before spending all that loot with the factory. My next boat will be a 38 with #6's............
12-18-2006, 01:34 PM
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Re: Gladiator pics
Originally Posted by dhlaw
Actually, I love the brand and am a loyalist. My frustration is that the company has drifted from the roots of its greatness and become nothing more than a marketing tool for a car dealer. How can you put world champion and offshore legend on the side of the boat with a straight face?? My hope is that somewhere along the line somebody steps up and brings the heritage and performance back to the brand. I think that Skip could do it, as well as a few others they just are not interested.
Will I buy another Cig?? Wouldnt own anything else..... It wont be a current model because there is no benefit. I would rather have Philly refurb my 03 or any other TS that I own before spending all that loot with the factory. My next boat will be a 38 with #6's............
Will I buy another Cig?? Wouldnt own anything else..... It wont be a current model because there is no benefit. I would rather have Philly refurb my 03 or any other TS that I own before spending all that loot with the factory. My next boat will be a 38 with #6's............
Anyhow, I think that Skip has done alot of good for Cigarette and has moved them in the right direction. While I do not agree with all of his decisions and practices, I firmly believe he has been an asset to Cigarette.
12-18-2006, 06:31 PM
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Re: Gladiator pics
Originally Posted by pm203
Why do you keep bringing up the car dealer association? Because Skip used to own some auto dealerships? You keep mentioning it like its a bad thing. Kinda like how people talk about attorneys.
Anyhow, I think that Skip has done alot of good for Cigarette and has moved them in the right direction. While I do not agree with all of his decisions and practices, I firmly believe he has been an asset to Cigarette.
Anyhow, I think that Skip has done alot of good for Cigarette and has moved them in the right direction. While I do not agree with all of his decisions and practices, I firmly believe he has been an asset to Cigarette.
And don't forget that anyone with the knowledge and determination can take a Cigarette to a world champion....I.E. Phil in early 00's with the F-2 boat (Lucky Strikes boat).
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12-19-2006, 09:31 AM
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Re: Gladiator pics
Until racing becomes anything more than an afterthought, I see no reason for Cigarette to spend a dime. Powerboat racing has been ruined by greedy selfish individuals that have no care for the growth of the sport as opposed to their pocket books.
I do feel sorry for the racers that the organizations cannot generate the interest needed to get more factories to support them.
I do feel sorry for the racers that the organizations cannot generate the interest needed to get more factories to support them.
12-19-2006, 10:15 AM
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Re: Gladiator pics
Originally Posted by BLee
Until racing becomes anything more than an afterthought, I see no reason for Cigarette to spend a dime. Powerboat racing has been ruined by greedy selfish individuals that have no care for the growth of the sport as opposed to their pocket books.
I do feel sorry for the racers that the organizations cannot generate the interest needed to get more factories to support them.
I do feel sorry for the racers that the organizations cannot generate the interest needed to get more factories to support them.
12-19-2006, 06:47 PM
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Re: Gladiator pics
Originally Posted by BLee
Until racing becomes anything more than an afterthought, I see no reason for Cigarette to spend a dime. Powerboat racing has been ruined by greedy selfish individuals that have no care for the growth of the sport as opposed to their pocket books.
I do feel sorry for the racers that the organizations cannot generate the interest needed to get more factories to support them.
I do feel sorry for the racers that the organizations cannot generate the interest needed to get more factories to support them.
Exactly!
