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Clay Washington 01-15-2006 10:23 PM

1990 Cigarette Bullet on BoatTrader
 
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Does anyone know this Bullet?

http://images.traderonline.com/img/6...74978871_1.jpg



http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/7/1/74978871.htm

It looks familar. If the owner is on here, I would hate to contact a broker.

NADA guides say that "average retail" is $64,100. I wonder if he would take it?

HiPerf2000 01-15-2006 10:29 PM

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Craig (Oldschool) may know a tad about it :p :evilb: :D

birdog 01-16-2006 07:04 AM

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That boat keeps popping up on here every couple of months.
If you are SERIOUS ready for a very nice Bullet. I may know of a
perfect, updated one...E-mail me if you are ready to BUY

Clay Washington 01-16-2006 07:37 AM

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It looks like that boat has been "for sale" for a loooooooong time. The price must still be too high.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=30395

HiPerf2000 01-16-2006 07:47 AM

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PM Craig

t500hps 01-16-2006 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by HiPerf2000
PM Craig

:rolleyes: Yeah, I don't think he is going to address this one on the board anymore.......

Clay Washington 01-16-2006 09:32 AM

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Thanks. I PM'd Craig, and I read some old threads on the boat. Interesting stuff.

Bottom line... if the survey is good and if the price is right, I would buy it.

BLee 01-16-2006 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Clay Washington

Bottom line... if the survey is good and if the price is right, I would buy it.

Exactly. Have it surveyed and buy the damn thing if it passes. :cool:

I think everyone is sick of seeing it pop up every month. :rolleyes:

Jamie B. 01-16-2006 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Clay Washington
and if the price is right . .

THAT has been the issue the last few times someone looked into buying this Bullet. It was always reported that the seller/broker was not willing to negotiate much off that listed price. I dont know about currently though. Good luck.

Clay Washington 01-16-2006 03:25 PM

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I talked to Craig (OldSchool) today. He had some nice things to say about the boat. He really did. :p

I also talked to Curt (the owner). That talk went well. :)

Craig is going to mail me his copy of the survey that was performed. I will send that to my finance officer.

I am going to proceed forward. Wish me luck! :D

Clay Washington 01-16-2006 06:37 PM

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I talked with my finance officer and got some bad news. They will only loan 90% of "low retail". The NADA "low retail" on a 1990 Bullet with 500hp engines is $56,900. 90% is $51,200. That leaves me with over $10,000 to make up, and I can't do that.

Thanks anyway guys... :(

lucky strike 01-16-2006 07:38 PM

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We have a Bullet for sale 1989 1- owner kept high & dry since new here in Miami. $ 49,900......... Make us an offer ! 454's Bravos....... Low hrs.

Clay Washington 01-16-2006 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lucky strike
We have a Bullet for sale 1989 1- owner kept high & dry since new here in Miami. $ 49,900......... Make us an offer ! 454's Bravos....... Low hrs.

NADA "low retail" is $37,370. That's my offer. sorry...

thedonz 01-16-2006 08:57 PM

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sorry for the news bud

jr mike

Smitty 01-16-2006 09:00 PM

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Maybe if you showed your "finance officer" some of the Claymates, maybe they would be more flexible!!! :D :D :D

Sounds to me like this finance company is not working in your favor ???

Good Luck !!!

Clay Washington 01-16-2006 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Smitty
Maybe if you showed your "finance officer" some of the Claymates, maybe they would be more flexible!!! :D :D :D

Sounds to me like this finance company is not working in your favor ???

Good Luck !!!

Thanks. I totally understand the 90% loan-to-value policy. I just want the "value" to be what is stated on the survey... not what NADA says...

oh well...

H20 Toie 01-16-2006 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Clay Washington
Thanks. I totally understand the 90% loan-to-value policy. I just want the "value" to be what is stated on the survey... not what NADA says...

oh well...

Just work some more OT and you will have the ten grand. Problem solved

Andy0331 01-16-2006 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Clay Washington
Thanks. I totally understand the 90% loan-to-value policy. I just want the "value" to be what is stated on the survey... not what NADA says...

oh well...

Have you talked to Dave Patnaude at Essex Credit? He has helped me & several other members of the board.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=95112

A quote: "BUYING A BOAT FOR $100k THAT HAS A BOOK VALUE OF $50k: Most Banks want to loan 80% of what the current wholesale value of any used boat. The only way to get around this to have a Marine Surveyor survey the boat and if the Survey says the current value is $100k, then most times the bank will take that value as the benchmark and not the wholesale book value."

29scarab 01-17-2006 05:43 AM

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My boats still looking good huh!!! :D

Clay Washington 01-17-2006 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 29scarab
My boats still looking good huh!!! :D

Yep! My "dream boat" would be a Cig, so I'm gonna try that first. But, I haven't forgotten about your boat. :cool:

Clay Washington 01-17-2006 06:43 AM

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Thanks, Andy. That's a great thread.

I tried to PM DaveP, but got...

DaveP has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her.

I will go to the Essex Credit website and see what they have to offer.

birdog 01-17-2006 07:33 AM

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Did you ever get ahold of Stan ?....I think his is priced right for the bank

ratman 01-17-2006 07:41 AM

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clay its a buyers market now offer 52k for the bullit tell him is your best and only offer them give him 24 hours to think it over.

birdog 01-17-2006 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ratman
clay its a buyers market now offer 52k for the bullit tell him is your best and only offer them give him 24 hours to think it over.

He offered him 37k above.....Dont think that will get it....
I agree,sorta on the "Buyers Market"....They only built 68 of these things, not many of them are really nice. Most of the "Cherries" i looked at were junk in my book. I ended up paying more to get a clean boat.I think very nice boats are still moving

jryan26 01-17-2006 08:16 AM

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Try Russo marine in MA. Ask for Jerry. All they need is a survey.

jryan26 01-17-2006 08:20 AM

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I personally dont believe NADA has **** to do with a boats true value. Ask OLDSCHOOL what a clean Bullet will bring!! It might say 40k NADA but I've seen that same boat sell for over 65k.

birdog 01-17-2006 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jryan26
I personally dont believe NADA has **** to do with a boats true value. Ask OLDSCHOOL what a clean Bullet will bring!! It might say 40k NADA but I've seen that same boat sell for over 65k.

And, if the new owner keeps it clean it will always be worth that.

aquanucents 01-17-2006 08:53 AM

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That 1990 Bullit you are talking about I looked at and drove in 2003 because I was thinking about buying it!! At that time Curt was asking about $95,000 for the boat, I offered him $90,000 and he countered at $91,500!! The hull at that time was in exellent shape, the motors sounded great, but there was some issues!!!!!!!!!!! Not all the new Gaffrig gages worked, for some reason there was a issue on the engine serial numbers, the electric bolsters didn't work, the biggest issue was the stainless headers were going to be removed and replaced with cast iron stock, it had K&M air filters that were not Coast Guard approved, and a few other mickey mouse things! I thought better of the deal and changed my mind and bought a cherry 28' Cigarette SS. I haven't seen the bullit lately, so I don't know what condition it's in now!!
Gary

Clay Washington 01-17-2006 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jryan26
Try Russo marine in MA. Ask for Jerry. All they need is a survey.

You got a phone number or an email address?

jryan26 01-17-2006 10:03 AM

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1-888-604-7916

http://www.russomarine.com/marinefin...easternus.htm#

Jerry Pitts

cigrocket 01-17-2006 10:06 AM

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90,000 the guy should have taken it and ran, I bet he is kicking himself now. You could find a nice cafe or a gun for that now.

NickOTeen 01-17-2006 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Clay Washington
I talked with my finance officer and got some bad news. They will only loan 90% of "low retail". The NADA "low retail" on a 1990 Bullet with 500hp engines is $56,900. 90% is $51,200. That leaves me with over $10,000 to make up, and I can't do that.

Thanks anyway guys... :(

With all the drama that has gone on with this boat, I would think the owner would jump on a 51K offer or something close to it. It's been for sale since I started hunting for a Cigarette in late 2002.

offshoredrillin 01-17-2006 11:57 AM

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clay, CAll Melanie Jolles at Beacon Marine Credit...she is great to work with and has helped quite a few members on the board...Rob

866-523-2266

Clay Washington 01-18-2006 02:49 PM

Re: 1990 Cigarette Bullet on BoatTrader
 
I got approval from Essex Credit to buy the Bullet.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-7735.html

I need to get a survey done, process some paperwork, and drive to Michigan. But, it looks like I will be a Cigarette owner in February. :D

Andy0331 01-18-2006 03:03 PM

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Your welcome. :D :D :D :drink:

Seriously, congrats! Nice ride!

I know there are several recommended lenders out there, but Essex struck me as truly professional in my dealings with them. The buyer of my Active Thunder used them & thats what convinced me to call them for the loan on my Cig. Prompt callbacks, attention to detail, nothing funky in the loan docs, just a class act.

FeverFan 01-18-2006 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Clay Washington
I got approval from Essex Credit to buy the Bullet.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-7735.html

I need to get a survey done, process some paperwork, and drive to Michigan. But, it looks like I will be a Cigarette in February. :D

Great news Clay!!!!! Congrats! :evilb:

Jamie B. 01-18-2006 04:38 PM

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Congrats ! :cool:

Just curious, are you going to put hydraulic steering on it ?

jryan26 01-18-2006 05:00 PM

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Looks good!

Clay Washington 01-18-2006 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie B.
Just curious, are you going to put hydraulic steering on it ?

Once I get the boat back to Texas, I will probably take it by Full Throttle Marine for an oil change and a compete checkout. I will decide what changes (if any) I want to make then.

I do plan to change the name from "Who's Your DADDY" to "TWISTED"

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/clayin...stin/my_photos

thedonz 01-18-2006 06:59 PM

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that's one nice bullet good luck with it clay and hope you enter our family hope you get it i know ya have been wanting one since i met ya at the ramp at lake travis

jr mike


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