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pokerrunsaland.com 02-10-2006 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by inbetween
Not sure if this is a hawk or not. It was sitting outside of the Cig factory in Miami in late 1991.

Interesting! Do you have more pictures from your visit of the factory 1991?

pokerrunsaland.com 02-10-2006 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Nykamp
That looks like Fat Boy out of Ohio, a rare bad boy.

Please tell us more about Fat Boy. Engine, HP, Drives, Speed.....
Maybe you also have more picture of this boat?


(PS: I saw that you have an Apache 41. My friend in Sweden also has one. See links:

http://home.aland.net/m05952/pokerru...s/IMG_2912.htm

http://www.motorteknik.nu/batar.html )

birdog 02-10-2006 07:03 AM

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FAT BOY has BIG Gellner power & SSMVs.....Staggered.....cover girl
One of the few Cigarette "90mph" boats. I love those things ! :D

STRAIGHTPRIORITY 02-10-2006 07:29 AM

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is fat boy for sale?

birdog 02-10-2006 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by STRAIGHTPRIORITY
is fat boy for sale?

I heard the owner is keeping her now....

OldSchool 02-10-2006 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by birdog
I heard the owner is keeping her now....

Awesome boat, that FatBoy is!!!!!

birdog 02-10-2006 08:06 AM

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Awesome boat, that FatBoy is!!!!!

My second favorite Top Gun....Behind Dougs "Pure Adrenalin"
{The old "Next"}...Just because Dougs still has the 90mph paint

STRAIGHTPRIORITY 02-10-2006 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by birdog
I heard the owner is keeping her now....

I would! i love those factory staggered guns! or even a gun with big drives for that matter! :evilb:

inbetween 02-10-2006 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Nykamp
That looks like Fat Boy out of Ohio, a rare bad boy.

It does look like it. Thanks to Racegirl3 for the pic
Video from bajaicebreaker "Fat Boy doing a fly by while I was runnin' around 50 MPH...Passing me like I was standing still"
Fatboy Flyby video

Nykamp 02-10-2006 07:21 PM

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My buddy owns one of the 90MPH's down in the keys and she was ordered by the same guy that ordered FAT BOY, origanally LOCK and LOAD. She is really sweet, and just totally restored.

woogie 02-10-2006 11:37 PM

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Had this TG in docs.. someone will know... another Fat Boy pic..

MrCIG 02-11-2006 12:31 AM

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1st. one's not a top gun that is a flat deck. It's better!!!!!! :evilb:

MrCIG 02-11-2006 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Nykamp
My buddy owns one of the 90MPH's down in the keys and she was ordered by the same guy that ordered FAT BOY, origanally LOCK and LOAD. She is really sweet, and just totally restored.

Hey Steve,
It looks like Hammond is closing for the 07 season,
Got room up in Michigan for about 10 boats?

Mark :drink:

Nykamp 02-11-2006 06:49 AM

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Morning Mark, sorry about Hammond, Carl Warren with the WARHAWK 41 can take great care of you guys at Pier 33, in St. Joe. His marina is really looking good. I can check around if you want to run out of Grand Haven. Say hello to Paulie, are you ready for the water?

375stinger 02-11-2006 07:07 AM

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was hawk like phil of today? did they rig the boats and all? is a hawk cig the same thing as a cig with hawk power? thanks, just curious as our revo originally had hawks...

inbetween 02-11-2006 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by pokerrunsaland.com
Interesting! Do you have more pictures from your visit of the factory 1991?

That was a LONG time ago. So far this is all I have come up with :( I'll keep looking

inbetween 02-11-2006 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Nykamp
My buddy owns one of the 90MPH's down in the keys and she was ordered by the same guy that ordered FAT BOY, origanally LOCK and LOAD. She is really sweet, and just totally restored.

Found this pic in another thread. Was Fat boy a Hawk boat? I see a hawk on it's side.

birdog 02-11-2006 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by inbetween
Found this pic in another thread. Was Fat boy a Hawk boat? I see a hawk on it's side.

Fat Boy was a 90mph boat but, I think all the 90s had Hawk power when new. Dont know what the connection was between Cig & Hawk but, They sure used alot of Hawk power.
Mine was Hawk powered new.

I looked long & Hard at Locked & Loaded...Just didnt have the coin to re-do her right.

woogie 02-11-2006 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MrCIG
1st. one's not a top gun that is a flat deck. It's better!!!!!! :evilb:

Happens when old man is on puter too late .. :evilb: saw your cig in Saug. in Aug w/Tonto - looking real nice. Seen "38th Airbone" 38 flat / Hawk out of Holland Light? ..

As I understand Ajac Hawk 37 was first "Hawk" boat Jerry Jacoby ... who later owned cig for a while and the first 90 mph was 89 staggered 750 Hawks/Kelvar..

NJgr8ful 02-11-2006 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerrunsaland.com
The gasprice over here is around USD 1,6 per litre which is USD 6,2 per US gallon!

It is expensive but worth it when you hear the Big Blocks singing in the rear and taste the sea water in your mouth...

Amen brother! :cool: Great pics!!!!!! Thank you! ((I'll get to check out those links soon too))

OSO is amazing .. around the globe brotherhood :drink: :)

pokerrunsaland.com 02-13-2006 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by NJgr8ful
Amen brother! :cool: Great pics!!!!!! Thank you! ((I'll get to check out those links soon too))

OSO is amazing .. around the globe brotherhood :drink: :)


Thank you! Yes OSO is VERY GOOD! Much interesting info. It is easy to spend the whole night reading and forget to go to sleep....

pokerrunsaland.com 02-13-2006 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by birdog
Fat Boy was a 90mph boat but, I think all the 90s had Hawk power when new. Dont know what the connection was between Cig & Hawk but, They sure used alot of Hawk power.
Mine was Hawk powered new.

I looked long & Hard at Locked & Loaded...Just didnt have the coin to re-do her right.

I also has understood that Hawk Power was an option for Cigarettes at that time. If you wanted more HP that Mercruiser could come up with you choosed the Hawk engines.

Craig Barrie seamed to have been in the control of Cigarette and at the same time he owned Hawk Marine Power!

Does anyone know more about this?

What happened to Hawk. Did they went broke when Cigarette did??


I found this info at www.dragonpowerboats.com :

"Craig Barrie, President of Dragon Powerboats Inc., founded the high performance boat manufacturer in early 2002. Craig’s background is unique in that he has significant experience designing high performance boats as well as managing the operation of large organizations. Craig started with Cigarette Racing Team in 1984. From 1984 to 1992, he was Vice President of Sales & Marketing and was responsible for reestablishing the dealer network and distribution model, expanding Cigarette into international markets and designing several boat models including Café Racer. From 1992 to 1999, he was President & CEO. As CEO, he managed the operation, including production, sales and marketing and was responsible for implementing a cost procedure for manufacturing boats with a correct bill of material and designing the company’s top three models – 38’ Top Gun, 46’ Rough Rider and the 42’ Tiger.

During his tenure at Cigarette, he was was President & Owner of Hawk Marine Power, a high performance engine manufacturer. At Hawk, he and Bud Lorow transformed the small engine manufacturer into a brand name which was the first engine manufacturer to launch superchargers into a successful marine application. From 1971 to 1984, Craig was a member of the senior management of Faberge, Inc., where he was Executive Vice President. At Faberge, he was responsible for $160 million of sales, managed 250 sales representatives, developed and implemented the concept of Faberge’s Organic Hair products, and relocated to England and France to launch Brut throughout Europe with the Faberge International companies."



PS: FAT BOY and all the 90 MPH Cigarettes are all my favorotes! I remember when they presented the 90 MPH Cigarette in the magazines, they where MAX at that time. I really wanted one....

birdog 02-13-2006 06:20 AM

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I didnt know Craig owned Hawk...That explains alot ! :D ....
I remember the 90mph article in Boating Magazine...I think i wore it
out looking at it....The baddest boy out there then

cig20 02-13-2006 06:52 AM

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heres a pix of my squadron hawk not sure if they made them or if the old owner put the decals on has cigarette hin 1983

Nykamp 02-13-2006 07:43 AM

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I think Craig got Hawk from Bobby S. of Apache if I remeber right.

inbetween 02-19-2006 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerrunsaland.com
Interesting! Do you have more pictures from your visit of the factory 1991?

This is all I could find. Rack at fort apache marina also. As I recall a Cig employee came out and asked us to stop taking pics :( .

pokerrunsaland.com 02-22-2006 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by inbetween
This is all I could find. Rack at fort apache marina also. As I recall a Cig employee came out and asked us to stop taking pics :( .


Thank you! I like these historical pictures!

I hope that many of you can show more of these historical pictures!

I have digitalised a poster made with my 1988 Cigarette 38 TG Hawk!

tg hawk 03-14-2006 12:04 AM

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TO: pokerrunsaland.com and anyone interested in classic Cigarette Hawk Top Gun boats...

In regard to your thread #24, I currently own the 1987 Cigarette Hawk featured in the Forbes "Best of the Best" magazine.

It was the factory media boat which appeared in brochures. Don Aronow sold it to Jeff Friedman who sold it to Jack Gill of Gill Marine. Jack sold it to a Mr. Jerry Meyers in Cleveland, OH who relocated the boat to Michigan. I bought it from Jerry Meyers, I believe in 1996. The hull has less than 200 hrs. on it since NEW. The engines each have 5.3 hrs. on them since NEW!!

I have tastefully and elegantly updated the boat with new 572 cu in engines, custom built by Mel Riggs in Fond du Lac, WI area. The boat originally came with Hawk 540's but with Crower rods and crank. All the best goodies are in the engines now with Carillo rods, Callies crank, Crane roller rockers, J&E pistons, DART heads and intake and a Holley 1150 double pumper. SSMIII drives overhauled. New CMI exhaust fitted with Northstar exhaust tips, due to noise level restrictions. But, plenty of power though and still a good exhaust note. Almost as nice as my Ferraris.

Painted the old flat black dash white to match the hull with new Gaffrig gauges and a custom Team Marine dash (OEM for Cigarette), all appropriate gauging location as it was in 1987. White gauges with yellow bezels, as an accent to match the paint theme. I changed out the engine cover pad with a new one featuring the Cigarette logo, as you can see by the photos. Again, tastefully updated.

Original light grey leather interior with many, many little leather pillows, as this was THE show boat of the day for Cigarette!! Original bolsters and original hull paint and graphics. Hawk logo is beautifully airbrushed, as original. The whole boat is in mint condition and has lived in a climate controlled airplane hangar with a Dassualt Falcon 10 corporate jet since my ownership, except when it was getting the new engines fitted and dash redone.

Target trailer is still original with (7) new tires and wheel bearings.

This boat is for seriously for sale and is perhaps one of the nicest classics left. I'm sure it is lowest time hull out there in a classic Hawk Top Gun series. I have no idea what the value is on something like this. If anyone desires to own one of the best classics ever built by Cigarette, please send me an email: [email protected]

Thanks,
Dave Korn

Biggus 11-30-2008 06:07 AM

Great old thread TTT

stecz20 11-30-2008 12:23 PM

great thread is right... good reading...

ManBayBoatClub 11-30-2008 12:32 PM

Classic Cigs are very cool, especially the history behind them

lvnspeed 10-28-2011 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by pokerrunsaland.com (Post 1635607)
Thank you! I like these historical pictures!

I hope that many of you can show more of these historical pictures!

I have digitalised a poster made with my 1988 Cigarette 38 TG Hawk!

If you really want to know about Cigarette Hawks, call one of the guys in your picture here. He still works for Cigarette. Bud Lorow.

As far as the 90mph's go there were ALL Hawk power.

88bullet 10-25-2013 11:35 AM

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lets get this old thread rolling again. did anyone ever come up with a number of how many were made saying CIGARETTE HAWK on the side?

EightSecv6 10-25-2013 09:08 PM

Picture of my 86 when it was brand new


http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/a...inc/img005.jpg

Full Force 11-12-2017 09:47 AM

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Anyone know where the Old Cigarette factory thread is?? I hear there may be info for the 87 Hawk I just bought.... "light my fire" is on the boat, supposedly was "The Dealer" when new on the side...

This is boat now

F-2 Speedy 11-12-2017 10:30 AM

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From what I was told ( my old boat ) the Dealer was sold out of Everglade marine ( Ralph Martin's place ) here it is at the Ft. Lauderdale boat show in 1992' and also had a 5 card poker hand on the side's.

And was repainted in the 90mph color scheme later on, my ( Kevlar ) and is in the classifieds for sale. Who knows maybe there were more than one dealer.

tommymonza 11-12-2017 10:40 AM

I have some old video back in Florida that shows the Dealer pulling into Islamorada at a poker run back in 87.

Full Force 11-12-2017 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by tommymonza (Post 4593296)
I have some old video back in Florida that shows the Dealer pulling into Isla Moradda at a poker run back in 87.

Wow if you can send to me? text me 440-476-4114 or email [email protected] please!!

bck 11-12-2017 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by tommymonza (Post 4593296)
I have some old video back in Florida that shows the Dealer pulling into Isla Moradda at a poker run back in 87.

I'm pretty sure I have that video as well. I think it was shown a couple times iirc, haven't watched it in a while. Cool boats but otherwise painfully 80's.

ICDEDPPL 11-12-2017 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4593299)
Wow if you can send to me? text me 440-476-4114 or email [email protected] please!!

Tommybonanza probably has that on a Beta video tape, you may need to a VCR from 1985 :D


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