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pokerrunsaland.com 02-06-2006 04:19 PM

Classic Cigarette Hawks, show pics, videos and info
 
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Is there anybody out there that owns or know about Classic Cigarette Hawks? Please post pics, videos and info here.

I own an 1988 Cigarette TG Hawk (se pic)

Hull: Kevlar
Engines: 540 cu. in. Hawk
Drives: SSM III
Steering: Latham
Trim: Dual ram racing trim
Interior: Red leather
more..

Does anybody know how many that was made with my options?

Roger 1 02-06-2006 10:15 PM

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Great looking classic Cig! Do you have any more pictures?

Roger

CignificantOther 02-06-2006 10:18 PM

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Nice pics!!!

thedonz 02-07-2006 01:09 AM

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i know there was one around my house here in Aventura it was all white with a hawk painted towards the bow, but i haven't seen it in a while

jr mike

SKRAMER 02-07-2006 06:32 AM

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That first picture is sweet. Nice ride. :D

pokerrunsaland.com 02-07-2006 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Roger 1
Great looking classic Cig! Do you have any more pictures?

Roger


Yes, I have more pics in my other computer. I shall look them up and publish them soon.

tomas_wallin 02-07-2006 06:51 AM

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Nice to see more "northeners" here at OSO! :drink:

The pics of the Hawk are really awesome! I'm looking forward to see some more pics! :drink:

OldSchool 02-07-2006 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by pokerrunsaland.com
Is there anybody out there that owns or know about Classic Hawk Cigarettes? Please post pics and info here.

I own an 1988 Cigarette TG Hawk (se pic)

Hull: Kevlar
Engines: 540 cu. in. Hawk
Drives: SSM III
Steering: Latham
Trim: Dual ram racing trim
Interior: Red leather
more..

Does anybody know how many that was made with my options?

Awesome pictures!!! I love that "Classic" look!!

My 88 Top Gun started out it's life looking like this. (see pictures below)

Kevlar Hull
572 ci Hawk engines
#III SSM's
Leather interior
Go-fast arch :D :D

OldSchool 02-07-2006 07:01 AM

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...now it looks like this

pokerrunsaland.com 02-07-2006 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool
Awesome pictures!!! I love that "Classic" look!!

My 88 Top Gun started out it's life looking like this. (see pictures below)

Kevlar Hull
572 ci Hawk engines
#III SSM's
Leather interior
Go-fast arch :D :D


That look much like mine except for the paint, Go fast arc and tubular svim plate.

I am intersted to know how common these option was. I am planning to keep/restore my to stock shape.

I think these boats are going to be hard to find like Classic Muscle Cars.

Here comes more pictures of my 1988 Hawk Top Gun as I promised! The sticker Nord Marin is from my friends marina, "The best damned marina in town"! (http://www.nordmarin.net/1.html).
We were out taking some picture for one of my boat clubs 2006 calender and did some testing.
(see http://www.msf.aland.fi and http://www.segel.aland.fi/ how it is here in the Åland)

pokerrunsaland.com 02-07-2006 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by pokerrunsaland.com
Is there anybody out there that owns or know about Classic Hawk Cigarettes? Please post pics and info here.

I own an 1988 Cigarette TG Hawk (se pic)

Hull: Kevlar
Engines: 540 cu. in. Hawk
Drives: SSM III
Steering: Latham
Trim: Dual ram racing trim
Interior: Red leather
more..

Does anybody know how many that was made with my options?

Her comes more pics! Filling up at Slagsta Marina in Stockholm (1000 litre).

pokerrunsaland.com 02-07-2006 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by pokerrunsaland.com
Is there anybody out there that owns or know about Classic Hawk Cigarettes? Please post pics and info here.

I own an 1988 Cigarette TG Hawk (se pic)

Hull: Kevlar
Engines: 540 cu. in. Hawk
Drives: SSM III
Steering: Latham
Trim: Dual ram racing trim
Interior: Red leather
more..

Does anybody know how many that was made with my options?

Here comes more pics, tanking and preparing to go to Sweden over the Ålands Sea!

pokerrunsaland.com 02-07-2006 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by pokerrunsaland.com
Is there anybody out there that owns or know about Classic Hawk Cigarettes? Please post pics and info here.

I own an 1988 Cigarette TG Hawk (se pic)

Hull: Kevlar
Engines: 540 cu. in. Hawk
Drives: SSM III
Steering: Latham
Trim: Dual ram racing trim
Interior: Red leather
more..

Does anybody know how many that was made with my options?

Driving to ÅSS Marina for a beer and steak!
( http://www.segel.aland.fi/ )

pokerrunsaland.com 02-07-2006 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by pokerrunsaland.com
Is there anybody out there that owns or know about Classic Hawk Cigarettes? Please post pics and info here.

I own an 1988 Cigarette TG Hawk (se pic)

Hull: Kevlar
Engines: 540 cu. in. Hawk
Drives: SSM III
Steering: Latham
Trim: Dual ram racing trim
Interior: Red leather
more..

Does anybody know how many that was made with my options?

A bad picture of my leather interior (the only one I have) and when I won the class "Classic Offshore" in Roslagsloppet 2005 ( http://www.roslagsloppet.com ).

Don Arronow was also here racing, between my island Åland and Öregrund in Sweden. The race was called "Getingloppet" and was part of the Offshore World Champion Series at that time ( compare pictures, the same dock behind Don and my Cigarette/team! More Don Aronow history to read at www.magnum28.se).

pokerrunsaland.com 02-07-2006 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pokerrunsaland.com
Is there anybody out there that owns or know about Classic Hawk Cigarettes? Please post pics and info here.

I own an 1988 Cigarette TG Hawk (se pic)

Hull: Kevlar
Engines: 540 cu. in. Hawk
Drives: SSM III
Steering: Latham
Trim: Dual ram racing trim
Interior: Red leather
more..

Does anybody know how many that was made with my options?

Here is one more picture of Don in his boat and with the dock behind! The pictures of Don is from www.magnum28.se !

Mange 02-07-2006 09:09 AM

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Lennart,

The Hawk TopGun that you own is one of my personal favorits. Looking forward to see and hear your riding this piece of history in our pokerrun later this year.
Thanks for these great pics!!!!!


Take care


Mange Wåhlstedt

29scarab 02-07-2006 09:24 AM

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Great pics, glad to see we have friends across the pond!! :D

What is the fuel cost over there? I'm sure quite expensive for your beast.

tomas_wallin 02-07-2006 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 29scarab
Great pics, glad to see we have friends across the pond!! :D

What is the fuel cost over there? I'm sure quite expensive for your beast.

Here in Sweden it's about $5-5.5/gallon :(

pokerrunsaland.com 02-07-2006 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 29scarab
Great pics, glad to see we have friends across the pond!! :D

What is the fuel cost over there? I'm sure quite expensive for your beast.

The gasprice over here is around USD 1,6 per litre which is USD 6,2 per US gallon!

It is expensive but worth it when you hear the Big Blocks singing in the rear and taste the sea water in your mouth...

Now it is - 15-20 Celsius here so no boating yet!!

29scarab 02-07-2006 10:11 AM

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What do you guys do for a living over there?

pokerrunsaland.com 02-07-2006 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 29scarab
What do you guys do for a living over there?

I have a MSc in mechanical engineer. I have been working with engine development for Scania trucks (www.scania.com) for 12 years.

After that I was the head for the workshop, spare parts and equipment at the Porsche Center and Audi Center in Stockholm ( http://www.porsche.se/cl/dealers/por..._stockholm.htm ).

Now I am running my own bussiness in Finland (stock trading and trading different things and more).

I have for may years parallell worked with professional motorsports as an engineer and consultant.

For example for Audis Factory team in Sweden (www.stcc.se , www.audisport.nu/default.shtml , www.kms-racing.com ,similar to NASCAR in USA), Porsche Factory backed GT team in Sweden, Drag Racing ( www.promod.nu ).

I was the Tech Director for Pro Mod when we started the class in Sweden/Europe ).

Powerboats have always been my big interest and hobby.

29scarab 02-07-2006 02:52 PM

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Excellent!!! :evilb: :D

pokerrunsaland.com 02-07-2006 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mange
Lennart,

The Hawk TopGun that you own is one of my personal favorits. Looking forward to see and hear your riding this piece of history in our pokerrun later this year.
Thanks for these great pics!!!!!


Take care


Mange Wåhlstedt

Hello Mange!

Nice to hear from you!

Interesting to meet Swedish powerboat friends at www.offshoreonly.com.

Mange and his friends Jonas are running an good boat forum in Sweden.

I recommend that you sign up (FREE) and for example look at the "Projects", the pictures is in english.

They have many nice boats in Sweden which come to www.pokerrunsaland.com in my island.

Look at www.boatlife.se and also www.northoffshore.com to see what we are doing here when it is warm and cold!


See you next summer Mange, Jonas and friends!


Lennart and his Crew!

pokerrunsaland.com 02-07-2006 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerrunsaland.com
Is there anybody out there that owns or know about Classic Hawk Cigarettes? Please post pics and info here.

I own an 1988 Cigarette TG Hawk (se pic)

Hull: Kevlar
Engines: 540 cu. in. Hawk
Drives: SSM III
Steering: Latham
Trim: Dual ram racing trim
Interior: Red leather
more..

Does anybody know how many that was made with my options?


Does anybody know who owns this Cigarette Hawk Top Gun 38 today and where it is?

I try to figure out how many that was made with this look ( painting and more ).

See link and pic:

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...highlight=hawk

Comanche3Six 02-07-2006 03:40 PM

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Great looking Cigarette!

MrCIG 02-07-2006 09:17 PM

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Here is a friend of mine's 86 38 Flatdeck Kevlar 540's and #III's and Stellings

pokerrunsaland.com 02-08-2006 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MrCIG
Here is a friend of mine's 86 38 Flatdeck Kevlar 540's and #III's and Stellings

It looks very good. I like the classic racing look!

It would be very interesting to see more pictures of the boat and the engines!

Where in USA is this boat now?

pokerrunsaland.com 02-08-2006 06:49 AM

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Some Swedish Offshore Racing history.

With help of my friends I have found this magazine article.

1988 drove the Swedish King the "Classic Roslagsloppet" in Sweden in the sister Cigarette 38 Top Gun to mine 38 TG.

The King rented the boat for 1 SEK (USD 0,125) during the race.

The owner of both boats drove the faster boat which I now own.

Even the Swedish tennis player Bjorn Borg started the race but newer finnished because of mechanical failure.

Note how happy the King is after been driving an Cigarette! (Middle picture below is the King!)

To right you can see the 115 NM (= 132 miles) long route for Roslagsloppet 1988 (Stockholm to Oregrund, both in Sweden).

tomas_wallin 02-08-2006 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 29scarab
What do you guys do for a living over there?

I work as a design engineer consultant at Scania Special vehicles, before that I worked with developing armored vehicles at www.akerskrutbruk.se.

As Mange and Jonas I'm also an admin at www.boatlife.se.

Pokerrunsaland: I'm the guy that you helped repair the broken engine bracket during the last Pokerrun.
Thanks for your help - that guy did a great job! :drink:

Mange 02-08-2006 09:03 AM

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I Work as a project manager at a advertising agency. Our specialties is point of purchase -materials. (POS)
www.myyntivirta.se

pokerrunsaland.com 02-08-2006 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tomas_wallin
I work as a design engineer consultant at Scania Special vehicles, before that I worked with developing armored vehicles at www.akerskrutbruk.se.

As Mange and Jonas I'm also an admin at www.boatlife.se.

Pokerrunsaland: I'm the guy that you helped repair the broken engine bracket during the last Pokerrun.
Thanks for your help - that guy did a great job! :drink:

We where only glad to be able to help you at the "Poker Run Aland 2005". I hope that all your friends and more are back 2006 so that we become close to 100 boats!

See You!

tomas_wallin 02-08-2006 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerrunsaland.com
We where only glad to be able to help you at the "Poker Run Aland 2005". I hope that all your friends and more are back 2006 so that we become close to 100 boats!

See You!

Of course we will be back!!! We had the time of our life! :evilb:

Cigaretteman 02-08-2006 03:38 PM

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Poker

You own a very nice Top Gun ! The Hawk just tells that the boat got Hawk power which was very common for Cigarettes back then. It was propably an option that you could chose like a lot of other things for the boat. As for value it will in my opinion never be worth more over time like the musclecars. For every powerboat enthusiast there are 10.000 musclecar enthusiasts driving the price up. If it is kept in good condition with fresh power ect. it will always represent a value but to increase its value by 10.000$ you will propably put 20.000-30.000$ in it. Owning and running a powerboat will only cost you money if you keep the boat for a while. You can only make money by buying cheap and selling fast, if you hang on to it you will loose money in the long run. Here in Europe it is even harder to sell these boats which also drive prices down.
Just my opinion.

That said there are nothing I would rather loose money on :D

I hope to be able to bring my boat to your poker run sometime over the next years but it won´t be this year.
One of my friends plan on comming with his 47 Fountain if everything works out.

Great to see a few northern Europeans here !

Cigaretteman

pokerrunsaland.com 02-08-2006 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cigaretteman
Poker

You own a very nice Top Gun ! The Hawk just tells that the boat got Hawk power which was very common for Cigarettes back then. It was propably an option that you could chose like a lot of other things for the boat. As for value it will in my opinion never be worth more over time like the musclecars. For every powerboat enthusiast there are 10.000 musclecar enthusiasts driving the price up. If it is kept in good condition with fresh power ect. it will always represent a value but to increase its value by 10.000$ you will propably put 20.000-30.000$ in it. Owning and running a powerboat will only cost you money if you keep the boat for a while. You can only make money by buying cheap and selling fast, if you hang on to it you will loose money in the long run. Here in Europe it is even harder to sell these boats which also drive prices down.
Just my opinion.

That said there are nothing I would rather loose money on :D

I hope to be able to bring my boat to your poker run sometime over the next years but it won´t be this year.
One of my friends plan on comming with his 47 Fountain if everything works out.

Great to see a few northern Europeans here !

Cigaretteman

I am not planning to make money on my Cigarette. I also know that you always loose money in the long run.

But I think it is nice to keep these older boats in original shape.

I see a trend to save classic race and powerboats that has started to take place. Correct me if I am wrong.

I try to figure out how many that was made with my option and paint. I am just interested to know. I have not seen so many at Internet at least.

You and your friends are very welcome to "Poker Run Åland 2006". Maybe you can go with your friends this year. It would be nice to meet you! Your new Cigarette looks very nice!

Cigaretteman 02-08-2006 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerrunsaland.com
I am not planning to make money on my Cigarette. I also know that you always loose money in the long run.

But I think it is nice to keep these older boats in original shape.

I see a trend to save classic race and powerboats that has started to take place. Correct me if I am wrong.

I try to figure out how many that was made with my option and paint. I am just interested to know. I have not seen so many at Internet at least.

You and your friends are very welcome to "Poker Run Åland 2006". Maybe you can go with your friends this year. It would be nice to meet you! Your new Cigarette looks very nice!

I think it is great that you want to keep it original ! It is a great looking boat just the way it is ! The reason you don´t see many is that most Cigs are different. Ofcourse at that time it was the era of the straight stripe but they changed the color on the stripes and other little things. I think it will be impossible to find out how many was made with your boats options. Cigarette is the only ones that could tell but when they moved a lot of their files was left behind. Even if they have copys you will propably never get an answer out of them.

I think you are right about the raceboats but I think that with the old powerboats you will see 95 % modify them with new fancy parts to update them rather than keep them stock like when they where new.

I will try to make it to your pokerrun in 2007. We are going to Floriad for all of November for the races so I will need to work all through summer to be able to be away so long. We try to do this every other year wich makes it hard to find time for other things during the year.

Thanks for the nice comments on my Cig I am very happy with it and it runs really good ! I think it would be nice to meet you too , maby in 2007.

Cigaretteman

pokerrunsaland.com 02-08-2006 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool
...now it looks like this

Look very nice and fast on the pictures!

Which engines? Hp? Speed?

pokerrunsaland.com 02-08-2006 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by thedonz
i know there was one around my house here in Aventura it was all white with a hawk painted towards the bow, but i haven't seen it in a while

jr mike


Would be interesting if you could check more into this boat.

pokerrunsaland.com 02-08-2006 05:33 PM

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VIDEOS, DOWNLOAD, UNZIP, LOOK !!

I just found these two low resolution videos taken of my Cigarette TG Hawk with my friends mobile phone.

inbetween 02-09-2006 09:19 PM

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Not sure if this is a hawk or not. It was sitting outside of the Cig factory in Miami in late 1991.

Nykamp 02-10-2006 05:15 AM

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That looks like Fat Boy out of Ohio, a rare bad boy.


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