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WildWarrior 10-17-2006 11:02 AM

42 x with big power
 
I am considering an 04 or newer Cigarette 42ts or 42x, with big power 1050 to 1075s w dry-sump 6s for the Chesapeake Bay.
Does anyone have any experience with the newer 42 Cigarette's as to actual cruise speeds, top speeds as well as overall ride and handling ?
Thanks in advance!

Tbonepmp 10-17-2006 01:31 PM

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PM me your contact information or call me if you like ...
Regards,
Tony
314-581-3532
www.custommarinesales.com

Joe 10-17-2006 02:14 PM

Re: 42 x with big power
 
Buy the X, not the Tiger... Or, buy a 46.

You might want to check out the classifieds. There's an '03 46'er in Austin, TX that's for sale w/ 1050 Sterlings --- VERY nice boat and he is motivated to sell it. Don't pay too much attn. to the listed price. As with anything... there's negotiation room that should get you near or under the 42X prices.

www.danjmccarthy.com ---- website showing the boat.

P.S. Mike, the owner, is a great guy.... only 40 hrs. on the boat since new. Majority is all fresh water.

Lucky Strike Jr 10-17-2006 04:12 PM

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If you want to jump up to a 46 RR let me know, my buddy has American Muscle for sale. The 1075's were just at Mercury getting rebuilt. They have 0 hrs and full 90 day warranty. He is ready to deal! PM me if your interested.

On the 42X, another friend has one (Blue 42X Powerboat) and he loves it. It has 850 Mercs. and runs 106-107 on Herrings.

Joe 10-19-2006 10:05 AM

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Well, WW, what's the deal'eo???? Finding anything?

Pier 57 just took in a really nice 42 w/ 900's. I hear they're really willing to deal on this boat. I believe the owner is building/buying a 46.

Joe

WildWarrior 10-19-2006 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe
Well, WW, what's the deal'eo???? Finding anything?

Pier 57 just took in a really nice 42 w/ 900's. I hear they're really willing to deal on this boat. I believe the owner is building/buying a 46.

Joe


Thanks guy's for the response, I am weighing my options as to what I really want.
I will be replacing my Cat and Gun with one stand up bolster V that my family will enjoy just like the Gun, but the boys can still rip it up as we do on my Cat.
I really like the looks of the 42X and a 42' will fit right into my hydro lift , so a 46 is just to much boat for my situation.
I am also looking at the stand up bolster OL 42 and Fountain 42 as I would like to be capable of running closer to my Cats speed if possible.
I'ts a tuff situation when your wife plane hates the Cat at any speed!

stecz20 10-19-2006 04:59 PM

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he said the f word.... please god show him the way...... :evilb: :evilb: :evilb:

jryan26 10-20-2006 08:34 PM

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If you are looking to keep up with some cats, than you need this..
http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-11897.html

Jupiter Sunsation 10-20-2006 11:17 PM

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I know it is the F word but Bill from Team Taboo has a pleasure version 42 Lightning with 1075's that hit over 130 with Reggie at the wheel. That is why they are known as Cat Killers!

Cash Bar 10-21-2006 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jryan26
If you are looking to keep up with some cats, than you need this..
http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-11897.html


Geez, they even ripped off Taboo's paint style...... :eek: :rolleyes:

9 Lives 10-21-2006 12:58 AM

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[QUOTE=WildWarrior]
I'ts a tuff situation when your wife plane hates the Cat at any speed![/QUOTE

Is it still the Talon and what does she hate about it? Wind, noise, speed, lack of amenities, etc?

pm203 10-21-2006 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
I know it is the F word but Bill from Team Taboo has a pleasure version 42 Lightning with 1075's that hit over 130 with Reggie at the wheel. That is why they are known as Cat Killers!

I respect and like Fountains, but anyone shopping for a 42X woudn,t even consider a Fountain, regardless of how fast it is.

WildWarrior 10-23-2006 07:47 AM

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[QUOTE=9 Lives]

Originally Posted by WildWarrior
I'ts a tuff situation when your wife plane hates the Cat at any speed![/QUOTE

Is it still the Talon and what does she hate about it? Wind, noise, speed, lack of amenities, etc?

My wife as well as most of my Bay Friends enjoy the mobility and free board associated with larger deep Vs. Until you get into the high 130s on my Talon there is very little wind in the front seats and she is solid and stable into the low 140s.
But as in most open sit down rides over 100 the back seats become a wind tunnel .
I don't expect any pleasure big power Vs to all out run with my Cat top speed wise, but I am looking for a"safe" stable 120 top speed and an 85 to 95mph cruise speed if possible.
I may be looking for something that doesn't exist, I plan on going to the Miami boat show, maybe I can get better educated as to what I should expect from these different boats!

GREEK LIGHTNING 10-23-2006 05:44 PM

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WW,
Did you receive my pm?

Enough 4 Play 11-24-2006 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by WildWarrior
Thanks guy's for the response, I am weighing my options as to what I really want.
I will be replacing my Cat and Gun with one stand up bolster V that my family will enjoy just like the Gun, but the boys can still rip it up as we do on my Cat.
I really like the looks of the 42X and a 42' will fit right into my hydro lift , so a 46 is just to much boat for my situation.
I am also looking at the stand up bolster OL 42 and Fountain 42 as I would like to be capable of running closer to my Cats speed if possible.
I'ts a tuff situation when your wife plane hates the Cat at any speed!

A 42X will not run anywhere close to your cat speeds. I looked at one with 1075 Mercs and the tattle tale only showed 105. I would be a little embarrassed of a 1075 42X that only ran 105. That is probably why the owner will not demo the boat.

Lucky Strike Jr 11-24-2006 07:19 PM

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What about the 42XP? Being that it was pre-42X and is not staggered is the attitude of the boat much different? Is the 42XP the same bottom as a 42X? How many were built?

Tazz 11-24-2006 07:31 PM

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WildWarior, I have both boats you're talking about....well kinda, I have a 377 Talon and an OL Quadstep w/twin 1000's . If you're looking to replace the cat because of the wind tunnel in the back seat over 100, i don't think the V is any better. My 37 OL Quadstep has as much wind in the back seats at 110mph as my 377 Talon has at 120mph, and as far as ride stability, forget it, the Talon has it hands down. Your wife will hate a V at high speed...chine walking at 110 is NOT fun. Maybe when you jump up to a 42 it might be different, but i think you'll be disappointed by the high speed ride when compared to the Talon, it has spoiled you.

vandy021 11-28-2006 01:16 PM

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We had a 04 X 1050's. Good boat. We also ran a 46 1075's. Good boat as well.

Strip Poker 388 11-28-2006 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by WildWarrior
Thanks guy's for the response, I am weighing my options as to what I really want.
I will be replacing my Cat and Gun with one stand up bolster V that my family will enjoy just like the Gun, but the boys can still rip it up as we do on my Cat.
I really like the looks of the 42X and a 42' will fit right into my hydro lift , so a 46 is just to much boat for my situation.
I am also looking at the stand up bolster OL 42 and Fountain 42 as I would like to be capable of running closer to my Cats speed if possible.
I'ts a tuff situation when your wife plane hates the Cat at any speed!

Hell trade her in to :drink:

blume 11-28-2006 03:09 PM

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Greek Lightning has a real nice boat. It is better looking in person.

vandy021 11-28-2006 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by blume
Greek Lightning has a real nice boat. It is better looking in person.


That boat is beautiful. It was parked next to our 42X at SOTW along with American Muscle!!

Where is that boat?! I saw it in a few ad's.

RICKY PEREZ 11-28-2006 04:21 PM

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What Type Of Mph #'s Are You Seeing In That 42 W/ 1075 ?

GREEK LIGHTNING 11-29-2006 08:19 AM

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Enough 4 Play, The owner is fed up with tire kickers and wont waste his time taking dreamers for boat rides. Money talks Gary!! And you're way off.

ONESICKGLADIATOR 11-29-2006 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Enough 4 Play
A 42X will not run anywhere close to your cat speeds. I looked at one with 1075 Mercs and the tattle tale only showed 105. I would be a little embarrassed of a 1075 42X that only ran 105. That is probably why the owner will not demo the boat.

Lip ship just did a 42x with 700 mercs and it runs 104 and he did one w/850 that runs 108
Maybe that is why the owner of the one with 1075 is selling it because of the 105 mph I would have to agree with you.
I would be embarrassed to.



Rick OSG

Enough 4 Play 11-29-2006 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GREEK LIGHTNING
Enough 4 Play, The owner is fed up with tire kickers and wont waste his time taking dreamers for boat rides. Money talks Gary!! And you're way off.

No tire kicker here. Fully capable of writing a check for the boat but would be kind of foolish to agree to any price without actually knowing how the boat performs. I have approached you 3 times to put the boat in the water and you always have some kind of silly excuse. When I inquired about your boat at Cigarette they tried to direct me towards anoter 42X from a customer that is ordering another Cigarrette. Go ahead and continue paying juice on a depreciating asset and just maybe someday you will wake up to realize you are the dreamer! Keep your boat I am not going to beg you to buy it!

Enough 4 Play 11-29-2006 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by GREEK LIGHTNING
Enough 4 Play, The owner is fed up with tire kickers and wont waste his time taking dreamers for boat rides. Money talks Gary!! And you're way off.

Somebody is a little too sensitive because nowhere in my post did I reference your boat or your name! Anyway good luck finding a buyer that is capable of actually writing the check. If you would take $475k for the boat and you had an offer of $460k that you alledgedly turned down lets see at about $5000 per month between insurance and a boat payment how many months will you have to keep the boat before you realize that was a good offer. Let me answer that for you, 3.

runafever 11-29-2006 11:44 AM

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Ok for all of you not wanting to associate a 42x with a 42 lightning lets even up the playing field. A new 47 lightning with 1075s and dry sixes. 117mph. enough said! with six person bolsters, gen, air and lots of comfort, and a new bottom design. That is more comparable to a 42x ciggy. Lake cumberland marine has the June 2006 powerboat mag cover boat in stock(I think its still 4sale?) It is by far one of the sickest fountains ever made. Same bottom as Rio Roses cat killer. Will blow the cusom paint right off of a 42x and the cabin has more hallways than a elementary school!

runafever 11-29-2006 11:54 AM

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Oh by the way Tazz Ive never been in a 42 or 47 at speed that has ever chinewalked. Wildwarrior the 42 or 47 lightnings will accomplish what you are looking for. Lots of speed which can't be denied by anyone on this board and lots of comfort. The 47 should go on your lift nicely as we all know it is only a 42ft boat. It is certainly worth researching. Good luck to you.

Joe 11-29-2006 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by runafever
Oh by the way Tazz Ive never been in a 42 or 47 at speed that has ever chinewalked. Wildwarrior the 42 or 47 lightnings will accomplish what you are looking for. Lots of speed which can't be denied by anyone on this board and lots of comfort. The 47 should go on your lift nicely as we all know it is only a 42ft boat. It is certainly worth researching. Good luck to you.

....Yeah, but he wants a boat that'll last more than one season before falling apart!!!! Hey...don't shoot the messenger here, I remember hearing/seeing Love Muscle (whom I don't personally know) say it live, on TV while they were being interviewed! :drink: Oopse! :rolleyes: :eek: :eek:

Joe

(all in good fun!)

runafever 11-29-2006 12:19 PM

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Please! You race a boat long and hard enough somethings gonna break. How many Ciggys in oss/sbi: Ohhhhhhh! Joe I have been looking at the pics of your new Cig on here that thing is Sick!

vandy021 11-29-2006 01:03 PM

Re: 42 x with big power
 
Not to bust things up, but for numbers our 42x ran at 112 with 1050 Sterlings.. We had to put mufflers in it and it dropped the top end to 104.
The 46 with 1075 and BIG OL wheels ran about 118. It's stister boat ran 125. With the right equipment you can get some bigger numbbers. But in a discussion with Skip at one point, you just run out of hull.

OldSchool 11-29-2006 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by runafever
Ok for all of you not wanting to associate a 42x with a 42 lightning lets even up the playing field. A new 47 lightning with 1075s and dry sixes. 117mph. enough said! with six person bolsters, gen, air and lots of comfort, and a new bottom design. That is more comparable to a 42x ciggy. Lake cumberland marine has the June 2006 powerboat mag cover boat in stock(I think its still 4sale?) It is by far one of the sickest fountains ever made. Same bottom as Rio Roses cat killer. Will blow the cusom paint right off of a 42x and the cabin has more hallways than a elementary school!

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I'll start thinking about that when someone at the gas station asks me "Is that one of those Fountain boats" :D :evilb: :drink: :evilb:

....and be honest, the 47' Fountain is smaller than a 42' anything!!!! :p

waterboy38 11-29-2006 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by vandy021
Not to bust things up, but for numbers our 42x ran at 112 with 1050 Sterlings.. We had to put mufflers in it and it dropped the top end to 104.
The 46 with 1075 and BIG OL wheels ran about 118. It's stister boat ran 125. With the right equipment you can get some bigger numbbers. But in a discussion with Skip at one point, you just run out of hull.

Vandy what 46 ran 118 w/1075 & sister boat ran 125 because the greeks boat only ran 104 w/1075 & your boat only ran 104 w/1050 with mufflers.

Water Boy 38

waterboy38 11-29-2006 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by runafever
Ok for all of you not wanting to associate a 42x with a 42 lightning lets even up the playing field. A new 47 lightning with 1075s and dry sixes. 117mph. enough said! with six person bolsters, gen, air and lots of comfort, and a new bottom design. That is more comparable to a 42x ciggy. Lake cumberland marine has the June 2006 powerboat mag cover boat in stock(I think its still 4sale?) It is by far one of the sickest fountains ever made. Same bottom as Rio Roses cat killer. Will blow the cusom paint right off of a 42x and the cabin has more hallways than a elementary school!

Hey runafever
FOUNTAIN BOATS SUCK
ENOUGH SAID

Fountain boat are 1/2 step up from a bayliner

runafever 11-29-2006 01:40 PM

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Waterboy38? Was that your job for the football team of the highschool you never graduated from? Maybe if you had your GED you could at least upgrade your membership to gold status instead of puting in writing that a particular brand of powerboat "sucks". That was a very juvenile response to a message that I posted in response to a guy on here just looking for options. I never once said that a Cigarette sucks. Did you here me knocking Joes new 39 unlimited? Absolutely not. Go back to the mainland and stay off the water until you can learn to swim with the rest of us! :rolleyes:

runafever 11-29-2006 02:09 PM

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Sorry after reading Waterboy38s post history I should not have wasted my time.

waterboy38 11-29-2006 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by runafever
Sorry after reading Waterboy38s post history I should not have wasted my time.

Sorry i only have 11 post. I don't spent my whole day on here like you.

Joe 11-29-2006 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by waterboy38
Sorry i only have 11 post. I don't spent my whole day on here like you.

listen....knock it off or move on!

waterboy38 11-29-2006 02:24 PM

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Joe were do these fountain guys come from this guy runafever is knocking cigarette and thinks that fountain boats are better.

as for your 39 it is sweet


Bobby B WaterBoy38

vandy021 11-29-2006 02:30 PM

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On our 42X, it ran 104 after we sent the pipes to Toronto to be muffled due to the local fuzz.

Our 46 ran 115 on Lake Cumberland. We bumped up the pitch which the boat was a slug out of the water. If you go check the boat. Which is for sale. The GPS tattletale shows the boat ran 118 "which I ran it too" and on the twin GPS Magellan's state the same. The boat was set up for top end running.

Here is our 46 XP for sale.
46XP 2004

46 XP Sister boat for sale:

46 XP Sister boat

Our 42X for sale : This boat ran 111.3 December 03 Boating Mag

2004 42X


The 46 we have for sale is a good boat. You can call Randy, we are entertaining any offers.

If you have any further questions, PM me or call. I know those two boats inside and out.


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