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jawbreakerkid 11-30-2006 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff
He said something about selling because he can't see over the fairing without sitting on 2 PFD's :D :D

Griff- I only use the PFD's to better the view! :D

Joe 11-30-2006 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Tazz
That's what I thought too, but it hasn't sold, hell...have any of them sold??

Hard sell w/ modified "anything" -- ie: blowers. I was going to do it to my 525 38 T/S and EVERYONE told me not to do it.... glad I listened.

Might be better off pulling the blowers and refreshing the motors. I know someone that had to do that w/ their OL. Didn't take long to sell afterwards.

Joe

Tazz 11-30-2006 11:40 AM

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Yes I agree that modified engines always add a dose of uncertainty to the buyer, although I have heard favorable reviews of the Vortech/500efi package.

otis311 11-30-2006 12:39 PM

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Joe, I agree with your last statement. I was all over JBK's boat prior to him buying it and backed away due to the blowers and the unknown reliablilty of the package compared to a stock set up. Stock most always will have better resale value in my own opinion.

I hate breaking down !!

Panther 11-30-2006 12:56 PM

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I think Gary G's Gladiator with the Zul's is a sweet boat! At the NYC PR he showed me the GPS recall.... 111! :eek: :cool: :cool:

Boat is pristine!

berns29scarab 11-30-2006 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Panther
I think Gary G's Gladiator with the Zul's is a sweet boat! At the NYC PR he showed me the GPS recall.... 111! :eek: :cool: :cool:

Boat is pristine!

Gorgeous boat, not stock power= super tuff resale

Panther 11-30-2006 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by berns29scarab
Gorgeous boat, not stock power= super tuff resale

I guess it's all in what you're looking for. I've found that people with $$ don't worry as much about resale as much as those who don't. If I wanted a fast and beautiful Gladiator I'd get Garry's boat. :cool: If I wanted something stock I'd get one with 525's. :cool: If I were buying as an investment I'd think differently. :rolleyes:

There's the other side; Where a guy has a boat with gobs of power, runs the hell out of it and puts 500's in so it will sell. An unsuspecting buyer comes along thinking it's always had stock power, then the boat falls apart a year or two later cause it was abused so badly. I've seen it happen. :eek:

I don't see it as hurting resale as much as being marketable. The boat with the bigger power will comand a higher price (higher resale) but at the expense a smaller market share (longer sales cycle). :drink:

super termoli 11-30-2006 03:08 PM

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To me, the issue is not so much between stock mercs and big custom power. I would not hesitate to buy a boat with big custom power if the engines were built by a reputable builder and were intended from the start to make big power, ie. all components are appropriately chosen.

What scares me is when I see what is a bone stock motor with a bunch of bolt-on aftermarket parts. Then, all sorts of questions arise like who did the mounting, have the stock internals taken a beating, etc.

So, when I see 500s with Vortechs, I'm scared. When I see a Keith Eickert 675EFI, I'm fine with it. I may be wrong but that's just me...

Sean 11-30-2006 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by otis311
Sean, Explain to me why a staggered would be worth so much more. My side by side handles and flys absolutly perfect and have ridden in a staggered and didnt notice much, if any difference in ride or handling. Aside from working room on the engines themselves I dont see that big of an advantage or extra value

Educate me please

Bob


Bob, I never said it was worth "so much more..."

In my opinion, the staggered boat is more desirable...for the reasons mentioned above and thusly prices will reflect that. I remember the first Galdiator taht was built was a side by side boat and was for sale for a long time when they started building staggered versions.

As far as handling, I don't know...I've not been in the side by side boat, so I couldnt comment which is better. Perhaps you'll take me for a ride so I can better answer that question... :)

BTW,

How many staggered Gladiators are there?
How many side by side Gladiators are there?

PurpleStuff 11-30-2006 03:25 PM

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ive seen the first one in person when it was new and was impressed, actually.

Tom A. 11-30-2006 05:11 PM

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Some body please buy my Kryptonite so I can buy JBK's boat!

By the way, JBK, I saw your boat listed with Custom Marine Sales. Is it brokered or would they be willing to take a trade in :eureka:

berns29scarab 11-30-2006 05:42 PM

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as i said Gary's boat is gorgeous just not priced to sell, which is maybe why its been for sale for over a year and brokered by every dealer known to man. the boat should be taken down from every listing and re-advertised by 1 or 2 in diff markets in the spring...have been there b4 it over exposed

Panther 11-30-2006 05:53 PM

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I know man, I know. :(

I think it's at 175 though, or at least the last time I spoke with him it was. That's about 10k higher than some of the others listed here and a much nicer boat (in my opinion) with a ton more $$ in equipment, but it's a buyers market so if someone really wants to sell then they have to re-think pricing! :drink:

berns29scarab 11-30-2006 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Panther
I know man, I know. :(

I think it's at 175 though, or at least the last time I spoke with him it was. That's about 10k higher than some of the others listed here and a much nicer boat (in my opinion) with a ton more $$ in equipment, but it's a buyers market so if someone really wants to sell then they have to re-think pricing! :drink:

at that figure thats a different story, all the ads i've seen were between $199-$215...he's gotta get action at $175,000 unless his ads are stale...unlist and re-list TRUST ME IT WORKS

Panther 11-30-2006 06:03 PM

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$175 OBO, have his number if someone wants to call direct. :drink:

http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-13008.html

berns29scarab 11-30-2006 06:07 PM

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the boat is magnificent without a doubt, Gary, Tommy and myself were talkin at the hot toddy last year. i love the boats, they just have more going against them then they do for them...such as limited market and horrible resale. just gotta find the right azz for the seat...C'MON TOM A STEP RIGHT UP !!! GOT 3 FOR YA HERE !! As a matter of fact wasnt ole steczy looking for 1 as well...THE TIME IS NOW !!!

Too Old 11-30-2006 06:23 PM

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Both Gladiators seem like good deals. I couldn't live with the Conan the Barbarian comic book look of the first one.

But JBK's boat is not only a screaming deal, it's got nice paint too. I think that boat is the bargain Gladiator of the month!!!!!!!

otis311 11-30-2006 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean
Bob, I never said it was worth "so much more..."

In my opinion, the staggered boat is more desirable...for the reasons mentioned above and thusly prices will reflect that. I remember the first Galdiator taht was built was a side by side boat and was for sale for a long time when they started building staggered versions.

As far as handling, I don't know...I've not been in the side by side boat, so I couldnt comment which is better. Perhaps you'll take me for a ride so I can better answer that question... :)

BTW,

How many staggered Gladiators are there?
How many side by side Gladiators are there?

Gotcha. Ill take you for a ride anytime !!

I have no idea how many of each were built. Mine is unique as it is a side by side setup in the engine compartment but with a staggered cockpit arrangement.... smaller

pm203 11-30-2006 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by berns29scarab
the boat is magnificent without a doubt, Gary, Tommy and myself were talkin at the hot toddy last year. i love the boats, they just have more going against them then they do for them...such as limited market and horrible resale. just gotta find the right azz for the seat...C'MON TOM A STEP RIGHT UP !!! GOT 3 FOR YA HERE !! As a matter of fact wasnt ole steczy looking for 1 as well...THE TIME IS NOW !!!

Limited market, yes. Horrible resale? I don,t think so.

berns29scarab 11-30-2006 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pm203
Limited market, yes. Horrible resale? I don,t think so.

Look at what a new glad cost and then compare it to a comprable 38 gun. Then look at the prices of say 2004's and figure out the loss% between the 2...bet ya the loss% is greater on the glad.

pm203 11-30-2006 06:44 PM

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I will agree about resale not being as strong as the TopGun. However, it is comparable or better when compared to the competition.( OL,Fountain,Etc.)

TeamSaris 11-30-2006 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by fountain40icbm
Ours is for sale at $169,000. The ad just ran out. The cockpit on the first boat is just blahhhh. It's all dull colors. I saw the boat in person when it was brand new. It didnt look too bad in person in the water.

I saw this rig at the place where the picture was taken1 She is BEAUTIFUL!!
Now that I think of it, it was really clean, and you were up on the deck cleaning it! :drink: One bad ass ride. :cool:

Jupiter Sunsation 11-30-2006 07:21 PM

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Well the ugliest/weirdest paint award in the OSO classified just got snatched away from the Gladiatior. The winner is now: http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-13515.html

berns29scarab 11-30-2006 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
Well the ugliest/weirdest paint award in the OSO classified just got snatched away from the Gladiatior. The winner is now: http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-13515.html

I dont even have to look and i can tell ya which one !!! Lil blue guy with spiked hair ?

OL40SVX 11-30-2006 07:28 PM

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Gary G.'s Gladiator sold. I believe to someone in Miami. Thanks for the plug FF2. That would be me, always cleaning.

This one is way worse than the Gladiator.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-12855.html

Brad 11-30-2006 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pm203
Also, don,t forget there are narrow and wide cockpit versions. !

How much difference? Which is best?

Panther 11-30-2006 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by fountain40icbm
Gary G.'s Gladiator sold. I believe to someone in Miami.

I haven't seen or spoken to him since the summer, that's awesome!! :cool:

That thing could run!

pm203 11-30-2006 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad
How much difference? Which is best?

I am not sure of the exact measurement differences, but the narrow/ short cockpit looks the best. If you are a big guy and need the extra room, the wide cockpit gives you a little more elbow room. The narrow/ short cockpit makes the Gladiator "look like a little race boat" according to Philly.

jawbreakerkid 11-30-2006 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by super termoli
What scares me is when I see what is a bone stock motor with a bunch of bolt-on aftermarket parts. Then, all sorts of questions arise like who did the mounting, have the stock internals taken a beating, etc.

So, when I see 500s with Vortechs, I'm scared. When I see a Keith Eickert 675EFI, I'm fine with it. I may be wrong but that's just me...

If you are referring to my boat, Carolina Racing worked w/ Bob Endress of Vortech to put my motors together specifically for the Vortech system. It has been a trouble free setup for me. A lot of it has to do with who set it up and how they set it up.

Chad

2112 11-30-2006 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by otis311
No cabin and no rubrail are what turned me onto the Gladiator. I think the Gladiator has the sharpest lins and look of any boat out there. As far as a cabin goes, It was nice to have one to store stuff, but if you dont mind climbing down into the front hatch, there is PLENTY of storage space.

I am totally happy going from the Tiger to the Gladiator

I am totally with you here. This is why I have one. Otis, Your's is really interesting. I am interested in the lack of side air intakes etc. I don't know the history, did you have it built?

Boy, I am suprised how anxious these sellers are.

Cash Bar 11-30-2006 10:27 PM

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2112, do you have Ford's in that thing?

mpally 11-30-2006 10:49 PM

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$485,000 for that thing is ridiculous. Not only is it only a 32 with 525's, the paint is not very diserable. They're out of there mind.

2112 11-30-2006 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CASH BAR
2112, do you have Ford's in that thing?

Yes :D and 18 months of having every single conceivable bracket, mount, clamp etc custom fabricated. This is my third Ford rigging job and definitely the most complicated, But that was my own doing. Lots of custom steering and closed cooling rigging too.

Cash Bar 12-01-2006 12:10 AM

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Ouch, Glad I wasn't dealing with that. :eek:

She sure is pretty though, my second favorite Gladiator ever.

The OSO Glad is my Fav............ :eek: :rolleyes:


A little butt kissin' goes far here....... :D

2112 12-01-2006 12:44 AM

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Then I assume you like Otis' boat, Lots of similarities, I guessed (incorrectly) that his was the OSO boat.

PhantomChaos 12-01-2006 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jawbreakerkid
Griff- I only use the PFD's to better the view! :D


Chad......sweet snap!!! Looking good player! :D :D :D

super termoli 12-01-2006 03:43 AM

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Chad, looks like your mods were done professionally, by people who know their stuff. However, it's not always the case and that is what is sometimes scary. When you buy something that makes similar HP but in the shape of what is a "stock" motor in KE, Zul, etc. product lineup, there are simply fewer questions.

Not referring to your boat, just speaking in general that this is the way people react to mods and after-market parts. It does not mean it's justified all the time.

BTW, I'd have much easier time living with the blue hedgehog on my hullside than with a muscular guy with a pierced nipple on my engine hatch. But that's just me...

berns29scarab 12-01-2006 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CASH BAR
2112, do you have Ford's in that thing?

Which Ford powerplants are you running ? Would love to see pics of the rigging if ya wouldnt mind. A buddy of mine always asks me why nobody uses Ford power and i didnt have an answer.

berns29scarab 12-01-2006 07:25 AM

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Otis's boat was owned by a hockey team.

berns29scarab 12-01-2006 07:29 AM

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here's another badazzz boat thats a helluva deal !!
http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-13519.html


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