Striat tigers & 6's
 

Looking for some feedback on this set up.

Heard the like bravos better but also like to eat them.

mine is a 2000 xr's, 500 efi's that jeff has at 590 hp and last year at end of season I was at 74-75, with prop tweaks I'm hoping to get a little more, but I'm happy with it. I keep wanting to go faster but I really like the reliability I have.

Any straight cig is a bravo eater. :D

I know this Tiger extremely well. Lots of seat time with the last two owners. It runs mid 90's w/Teague 1000's and dry 6's. It's under propped and bangs the rev limiter. It should run just over 100 with that power propped right.

What do you need to know? It's a straight bottom Cig. It'll porpoise if you're not running some tab in calm water. It runs like a rapped ape and loves it rough. You can drink a martini, holding it in your right hand while running 90 in 2-4's and never worry about blowing a drive, or spilling your drink! :D

And it's for sale. Brand new Lip-Ship interior and paint completely gone over with every nook, cranny and blemish repaired by Phils guys. very low hrs on the motors as well. turn key baby!:cool:

http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/8/2/85518182.htm

By the way, that's my daughter filling it up with fuel in Key West. The lock to keep the pump on was broken....We sat back and drank Red Gooses while she filled the boat up...Kids are great!:drink:

Just wondering how they are balanced.

I've heard that the tigers were built for a bravo application so I am curious how it's affected my adding the big drives and moving the engines forward.

A strait 42 w 6's is at the top of my list now that it appears my 38 is sold and I am trying to gather as much info on them as possible. Looks to be about a half dozen 6 boats on the market and about the same number of bravo boats.

Also D-mans old gun has some alure but I think a 42 is more what we are looking for.

I've never heard they were built for bravos. I've heard the guns were built and run better with trannies and the motors moved forward (since bravos werent around in the late 80's) so I would assume the same would apply for a Tiger. All it is, is a stretched gun.

I personally would not want a bravo'd Tiger...I wouldn't want a Bravo'd gun either. I just don't think they are the greatest drives and can hold up against all that weight. It's not even a power issue. I think it's more of a torque and load issue.

There are some sweet Tigers on the market. I like Too Olds set up too with the 3A's. those would/do hold up well (I have them on my ride:D )

Dmans old gun is sick. A lot of attention to detail on that boat.

The tiger above can be had at a good price. No issues, no B.S. It's clean. If you're interested I can give you it's whole history from original owner to current.

Tiger/bravo
 

The words Tiger and Bravo don't belong in the same sentence. Unless you're talking about what "NOT" to do. If you're going to purchase a Tiger get one with Six drives. Those boats are too heavy for bravos. And if you have any heat at all under the hatch, then it's just a broken drive waiting to happen. The Tiger that Tank spoke of was mine. I'm the one that had all of the major work done. It's a great boat for the price. I had twice the asking price into it. The current owner doesn't have time to play with it so it's back up for sale.

Tank, by the way, Key West is nice.... Wish you were here...

I guess it depends what you want out of it. Mine with xr's is a great set up, I never smash it out of the hole and have been out in some serious stuff and never blown a drive, every 25 hours the fluid is changed and no metal shavings. I have simrek drive showers as well. one of the showers broke and after a weekend I really noticed chalking on the broken, one so I would assume heat on them is a factor.

I enjoy everything about my tiger, the ride, the fit, finish are what I expected and more. I wonder about bigger motors and 6's but is the trade off worth it? I look for little things to change on mine, but would probably buy one done with big power and 6's instead of changing mine. It's not the fastest one out there at 74-75 but still gets looks and handles everything....

Konrad

Just curious; Can someone tell me if the transoms are laid up differently for the 6s vs the Bravos? Thicker/stronger for the extra weight?

Wish we were there too bro!!:drink:

Nice to see you checking in on things;)

You know me... I'm always around... I'll hook up with you next week when I get back... Boat's running great, as usuall thanks to Phil.

Doesn't look like it, I have owned both application.

I would have no quorums about owning a Tiger with XR’s, Keep it at Max 700hp which will give you low 80’s. You have to drive it diligently of course, carefull on take offs and so forth.

Even that way I averaged one XR blow up a year (80-100 Hours) Fix was around $2,500 which I tought was somewhat reasonable considering what I had.

Tank has it pretty good.

Just running with tabs in line with the hull at lower speeds will avoid the porpoise sometimes refered to by some people not use to driving them. At higher speeds, say above 80 mph no tabs are required.

I have seen 97.1 on GPS on the fresh waters of Lake Champlain here in 5 footers.

Phil told me they hit 100 with it with smaller pulleys and racegas.

Here is the one with #6s in flat stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7u0LZvb-Hk

And here is the Bravo boat in a little rougher stuff...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P47VAeGUu6w

http://www.limestonedev.com/images/boat/000Cig1.jpg

http://www.limestonedev.com/images/boat/000Cig2.jpg

Call me if you want to talk about the difference between the two.

I PMed you my number.

Some more pics of both rides....

On thing about #6's is that if you have a problem with your mills you can get on plane with one engine and managed to run level at 50 mph / 4000rpm .... not a bad way to limp into port.

The old boat...

I don't think the Tiger was particularly designed around Bravo drives. In fact, I think the first two or three built were 3A boats.

Mine does like some tab at lower speeds. Above 70, bring the tabs up and she's smooth as butter and on rails.:D

I think I just figured out what you are talking about! :eureka: It just nawed at me since I've NEVER heard the straight Tigers were built for bravos.

The information you may have been given was probably about the twin step Tiger. The first T/S Tigers were def. built for Bravo/XR application. As a matter of fact, they handled like CRAP when big power and 6's were put to them, thus the 42X was produced that moved the steps to handle the CG issues.

Also if anything the engine room is very large if just for a Bravo application.

Considering the size they definately accounted for transmission application in there.

Look at the difference in space with Bravo and #6's

I'd agree the tranny boats are pretty tight .

Thanks for the info. GLH I'll visit with you in a few days and Fred I'll ive you a call to to visit.

Make sense

Ok so a follow up question. If the twin step tigers didn't like the 6's. What about converting a ITS bravo boat to a Konrad boat?

The stand off boxes would be the same length as the ITS boxes and the motors don't have to move. You're hanging some more weight off the transom with the heavier drives and the transmissions.

Anyone know if it's been done. I hate being the first to do something. Steep curve!

If you're going to own a straight hull Tiger I agree that there is no choice but to go with #6s. On the flip side (as Tank said) the stepped Tigers were built/tested with Bravos in mind. The boat he is speaking about that was tested with #6s and then converted back to a Bravo setup was actually out here on the west coast.

Two questions I have (since I've been out of the loop for so long) ... is there a stepped Tiger out there with #6s now? If so, how does it run? Second ... I always assumed that the stepped Top Guns were built with the same application in mind (Bravos) yet we have a member (Tom) who runs a stepped Top Gun with #6s and that thing runs like a bat out of hell!

I highyly doubt the marginally heavier Konrads (over the ITS Bravos) would change the boat's ride characteristics. The change is marginal compared to #6s (which are both heavier and stand off considerably more from the transom).

Steps or no steps..........It's all about setup!!:cool: :drink:

The #6 T/S Tigers porpose a lot. I've ran right next to one with 900 Sterlings for roughly 40 miles and it bounced the whole way. It was pretty fast though. The owner ended up buying a 42X.

Your friends' Top Gun is the only one I've heard of with 6's that runs good.

Here's the 42

All the 42X, stagger and three steps, Cigarette's have number 6's except the few triple Bravo ones and one staggered 525 Bravo boat. I've run with a couple 42x's with #6's and the one 525 boat with bravos and they both seemed to handle fine.

That's a GREAT picture.

Good point

Put some Konrads on yours and let me know how it rides! Tigers on my short list but my interest in bravo boats is pretty light. I'd love a 42x. maybe as the boat after next.

It just seems to me that converting a bravo TS to a Konrad might be worth a try but I'd a thought someone would have done it that was tired of bravo problems.

VB,what power are you looking to run? If you're looking to do one from scratch, there is the hull in ohio available, it had big power and set up for 6's.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...d.php?t=153993

Was this it?

looks like it.

Here ya go Von

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1999-...QQcmdZViewItem

Saw it listed but not on E-bay. It's on my list. Showed it to the CFO last night and she was so so (hates purple) even though her favorite boat we've owned was purple and green Cig.

I like it and it's what I am looking for.

I've been meaning to GLH but been busy.

6's rule. No offense Rob NK

I boat with the guy who bought Nauti Kitty's Tiger. That thing ran great.

Where is it now. What motors? NK

I just realized you are talking about Cliff? Tell him I said hi if you think about it. I know its on the west coast now. Cliff still in an ol? NK