Why Cant I sell My Top Gun???
 

I have an absolutely beautiful 2000 38 Top Gun TS. It’s extremely clean as described in my ad. I have had some interest but no real serious inquiries. It’s the lowest priced Twin Step on the market and it’s been for sale for over 8 months. I don’t understand why. Is the pre owned performance boat market that bad??? Some constructive input would be helpful...

Zul-Lip Ship Twin Step Top Gun Cigarette T/S 98 MPH!!! AD#10771

Here is a direct link to Maxonmike's Top Gun ad.

http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o10771-en.html

That is a nice boat! Is that the old Miami Two Step? I am thinking that the market is just slow right now. I am in the same situation with my Apache. I have had a lot of calls and a few people that claim to be serious, but nobody has taken it yet. All I can say is to just keep using your boat and have fun with it until the right buyer comes along, unless you want to end up nearly giving it away.

If it had a trailer with that price it might help....otherwise, nice boat.

Nice boat but always a tough market to sell these toys...

hang in there as you only need one buyer.

Dave

That is the old "Miami Two Step", Chet Huffmans boat.

That thing (when Chet had it) was the nicest T/G I'd ever seen/ridden on. It's the first pleasure T/S built. From what I"ve been told (maxonmike) has taken very good care of it as well.

What's next Maxonmike?

It'll sell. When a serious buyer comes and actually looks at it, it'll sell. If it's anywhere close to what it looked like when you bought it, it wont be hard.

Here we are when Chet owned it.

I sure have seen you hanging around the Cig section alot lately Dave.....You looking to pick up smoking again??:drink:

I'm not a pro in these highdollar boats but I think Drypipe Tiger has his 2000 tiger for sale in this price range even maybe a little lower than that... also twin 700's...

I checked out the boat a few weeks ago for a friend. Unfortunately he was looking for an extended covergirl cabin. I thought it was in good shape. Sharp boat. I beleive its priced very resonable compared to others out there.
Good Luck
Jr.

The simple answer to your question is that your price is too high. If you want a quick sale, lower it! :D

Nice boat...I really like it…Here are a couple of things I have seen with regard to the market and where you boat may fit.

1) Power (Custom power sells slower than Merc Power). 525EFI and 500EFI boats are selling if priced right.

2) Price is too high (I was getting offered 2002 boats that dealer were looking at taking in on trade for about 175K last year)

2) Age-7 almost 8 model years old.

3) Supply and Demand . There are more supply of TG's right now than demand....Thank rising cost of materials, insurance, and gas prices for that one. It has eliminated the middle class buyers that make 150-200K per year.

You only need 1 buyer.

Don't look at 8 months because boats don't move much over the winter. However you should be getting major action right now and if you aren't then you have to look at price.

It's already been said but, custom power, no trailer, hatch scoops and no swim platform are some hold backs. 700 and bravos(xr's?) will be another question. Also you say it's the lowest priced TS, but it's also the oldest. I saw a 2001 listed for the same price with a myco trailer. That’s what a $10K upgrade? And there’s a 2001 listed for $169 with vortechs (another draw back), but a newer boat and lower priced.

My rule of thumb is, if I am not getting serious interest then I am 5% or more above the current market.

I am not trying to criticize your boat but since I just sold my 1997 TG and am now looking for its replacement this is what is going through my mind as a buyer when I look at it.

My question is for future reference. I have noticed a lot of these TG's out there with these type cabin. Where do you send them, or how much does it cost roughly to have these cabins built out fully these days. I really like havning a full cabin.

Jeff, Top guns traditionally hold there value better than a Tiger.


Also, Neils boat is a straight hull, the gun is a stepped bottom. 2 different markets for a buyer

Twin step Guns cannot accomodate a full cabin. The most you can do is add the extended cabin to it , which gives you a small sleeping berth.

What does the Forum think its worth???
 

Thanks to all for the input... One more question... If $175,000 is too high of a price ... What is the right price that I should ask???

159k and hold firm i would think

Well, I guess we learn everyday! Dam, that's what my parents always told me so this means there were right once again!

If the boat is clean, 175K should be fine. Do the motors need to be freshened?

Nope.... Port Motor is Fresh 0 Time and starbord has about 30 Hours

Hold out for what you want to get for the boat, and if an offer comes along that you can live with then take it. That's my philosophy.

I personally love the look of these boats, but they have no cabin, and when you get them up to WOT they feel like you are floating. I sm sticking with flat bottom boats for now.

Good luck. As a potential seller, I always hope that there is a buyer out there for every body.

A sales manager once told me that there is an "ass for every seat"

Mike - My advice is to hold on your asking price for now. It's not unreasonable (as asking prices go). The boating season is just around the corner for many parts of the country so sit tight another month or so. If you don't see any action then drop the price a bit. Someone else mentioned a trailer. Believe it or not that makes a difference. 90% of the time boats sell with a trailer. If someone has to buy a trailer your boat becomes a $185,000 boat. It starts to get close to newer TS Guns.

Where did it go ? who bought it ?

DPT sold his boat back in December or January...

So he is now No Pipe Tiger / NPT

A board member bought it that lives about 15 minutes away and saw it last year on a poker run.

It's all a bought price , we listed our Gun for almost 1 year at the same price as all the other comparable rigs and only attracted brokers and tire kickers.

In Sept of 06 not wanting to store 3 boats again for the Winter I dropped the price another 20k and had immidiate action.

Three months later I handed over my Title to one happy new owner.

As I have seen written in these threads before and it stands true,it's much harder to sell them then it is to buy them!


Great looking rig good luck with your sale.

[QUOTE=jeff1000man;2064536]

I personally love the look of these boats, but they have no cabin, and when you get them up to WOT they feel like you are floating. I sm sticking with flat bottom boats for now.





I had an 03' TG TS w/ 525's and I think the Top Guns have a pretty big cabin when setup with the extended cover girl.

I also think they are rock solid at speed. Mine was not scary at all at 86-87 mph. I have a friend that had one that did over 100 mph and he was very happy with it at those speeds. IMHO Top Gun TS's are great handling boats.

DK

[QUOTE=ktron;2064905]Matter of opinion I guess. I didn't know I wasn't allowed to have one. I am used to huge cabins all the way to the nose, and not spilling my mixed drink off the dash. Thanks a lot for all of your opinions also.

I was in a T/S gun at 86 and it was solid as a rock!!

Price Price Price... It may be worth every penny, but if no one is jumping at it, then in this market it no longer is worth that price. You can "sell it" or you "can see what you can get for it"

There has been quite a few guns that have sold over the last few months, as Wild Warrior said he dropped 20k to get action.

I did'nt know that! What is he getting next?

You can always add the extended cabin..... I know Phil has done it in the past --- and we all know the quality of his work is extraordinary!

It might be worth a call to him, and factor that into your offer amount. It's not a big project.


Joe

Where did it end up going?

Things are just moving super slow, my 1993 Top Gun I have for sale has seen very little realistic buyer action, but tons of tire kickers and it is one of the lowest priced (69) TGs out there, same is said for most performance boats Eventually it will sell, took my buddy 3 years to sell his cat, but he finally found the right buyer and sold it for exactly what he wanted. Hey at least Cigarettes hold there value better then most boats, so you may have to keep, but your chances of getting a fair price for it later is still in your favor.