Mystique Thread
 

i know there arent many, but lets see them, vice's will work as well

'02 Lip Ship Editon, built for Enrique & Anna!

thats all??? where is bamfort?

Steve, Which one did you end up buying. Show me a pic or three

all my pictures are on my computer at work. I will post one tomorrow.

Don't mean to but in on this thread, but can some of you guys also post some interior pics when posting your boat pics? I've never seen the cabin on one of these.

Cabin

Here is one

another

Got in trouble for my hollywood pass at the beach

thanks for thre pics bman, what type of speeds are you seeing, you have the 500efi's?

I always thought one of these with 6.2's would be cool boat

I bought the boat used and have had it for 2 seasons. It came to me with 97 hours and it now has 160. It has the 500 efis and the boat will do 78 mph, it is a non stepped boat. It is a true 30' boat that handles well in the ocean. Not to mention it is a Cigarette

I bought it new 00 Annapolis Boat Show and it would do 80 to 82 MPH.
The only thing I didn't like about it was that you had to run tabs almost all of the time. We talked about sending it back to Cigarette to have the notch removed. That is the fix.
Sold it with 32 hour on it. It was my first Cigarette. Bought it from the best, the late Harry Judge!
Nice boat!

explain more about the notch, pics would be great, but an explination would do too,

how about drive spacers for more drive in the water or ext boxes for the porpose?

how about differnet props, 5 blade?

You don't need spacers or extension boxes.
The boat needs more running surface on the bottom. Cigarette took the notch out in newer production runs.

How many were built with small blocks?
I know at least one i saw for sale a few years ago

i havent seen too many in general, big or small block, where are they all

Can you talk about the notch a little more. Not sure what is referred to as the notch. How much work is it to remove the notch? Will Cigarette remove the notch? Who else is qualified to remove the notch?

Any pictures of the boat when you had it? Do you know what # mystique this one is?

I'll try and dig up some pictures. That was before my digital days.
Here is some additional history on it. It was originally sent to a dealer in Canada. He couldn't sell it and transfered it to Offshore Performance.
I went to the Annapolis Boat Show, saw it, fell in love with it. Bought it on Friday the 13th. Offshore Performance stored the boat for me over the winter.
My big mistake was I never didn't a sea trial it before I bought it. The first time I ran the boat was the following spring. It ran great but it porpused and you had to run tap all of the time. There is no such thing as running through it on this boat. Some boats porpuse at a certain speed and you can get beyond it, not this one.
I wanted a bigger boat so I sold it. Bill and Harry treated my very fair on the trade.

bman-

im thinking the notch is the area of the boat underneath where the V runs down but then stops short of being flush with the transom, where the 2 brass water plugs are to drain the eng compartment,

by "taking the notch out" i think it means extending that V all the way back to be flush with the transom

my question is how does anyone know it would work, have any other mystiques had this done to them

Cigarette removed the notch in the later models, it is the fix. The newer ones don't porpuse.

Thanks for the background. Do you know what # this mystique was. I think they only made 16.

This Is The Notch, (i Think)

the steps fixed it... all straight mystiques porp... filling the notch helped

Boomer's pic shows a notched transom. I think originally, in the 80's, makers started to add notches to hull design to get more water to the props and be able to raise the X-dimension of the drives, especially on single engine applications. All this was done to increase speed.

I'm not an expert, and the hulls may be a slightly different design, but Bullets seem to have a slight porpose problem also. They came in various years with and without notches and I think both porpose. I also think just saying there's not enough running surface is not necessarily true. There are lots of boats with similar hull designs that are shorter than 30 ft that don't have porpose problems. Running surface is only one of many factors that include rocker, chine and strake design. If there is a fix, the best source to find anwsers to these problems would be the original designers at Cigarette.

My 2 cents

I have always liked the Mystique's Lake Cumberland had one for a while and sold it to someone on the lake it was there for a year or two then I havent seen one in person since. It was a straight hull. I think porpoise is a ballance/weight/hull thing that the simplest way to git rid of was steps. In my experience most straight hulled boats will porpoise at some speed depending on trim. My baja did it my bullet did it and other boats that I have been on or driven have. If you run these boats on flat water they will for sure The bullet would not do it out in the gulf if it was rolling but on the dead flat days it would same with the gun. I would rather drag a little tab when it is flat and be able to run when it gets fun!!

i called cig today, belive it or not i did not get a return call...... hopefully i will get ahold of someone and get to the bottom of the "notch" thing, (ie, cost to fix, will it work, etc)

Boomer,

Thank you for asking the questions to Cigarette. We will have to wait patiently for the answers.

I doubt that you will get a straight answer from cig and they dont like to return calls.

more vice pics

the 525's belong to the middle boat

bman-
do you have any pics of the cockpit speaker placement? wondering what ive got to work with here

this is all I got

Boomer,

Do you own a Mystique?

yea,

i was looking for mystique stereo pics, not vice, do you have any of those?

how is your mystique with porposing?

2000 with 500EFI's, pics to come later

I agree, these boats are made for the rough and not the lakes. Sometimes a different prop can fix a porpoise. Twin engine 28 Panteras require some tab on flat conditions. I've heard the 28 apache has a porpoise when its not propped right. Both boats were made for the rough, just because it requires some tab on calm days doesn't mean its a bad boat. Its nothing out of the norm ESPECIALLY for shorter length twin applications.

im waiting till i pic it up, (about 6 days) then i was going to post, its got the notch, non step, pics soon.... i have pics on the comp im just not sure when to post them!