Gladiater big water ???
 

Does the gladiater run better or as good in 3-5s as a top gun?? For some reason I am always going back and looking at a gladiater

I have owned both, The Glad does run as good in the rough as a gun. Its just a little different ride. Its a totally different feel sitting down and takes time to adjust to reading the waves from a different angle.

Let me put it to you this way. Phil is building himself a Cig to play with and to do poker runs with. As you know, he can have any Cig he wants and is going with a Gladiator with 700,s. What does that tell you?

The worst part of a Gladiator is the lack of a rub rail. Think of everytime you leave the boat your fenders have to be perfect, particularly if the waterway is busy. I had a buddy that had the boat touched up annually from all the scuffs.

Buy the right equipment and you never have to worry about that. I have 2-4' fenders and 2-5' fenders that work great. They are the inflatable kind

The boat is truly awesome once you get used to it. It will handle the rough stuff all day long and will run real fast with stock mild power. It is not a wave crusher like my Gun and Tiger were but, Im not burning up drives and motors now either

Todd, Ill be down from April 11th thru the 21st if you want to go out and run my boat and see if you like the feel of a Gladiator.

dont you think you should ask me if your gonna take people for rides in my rig????

its only right!!!!!:evilb::evilb:

Thank you Bob, that would be great! Can't wait

LMAO. Show me the $$$$$

The lack of rub rail is no problem like Bob said if you have the right stuff and if you know what your doing. I would say the Gladiator doesnt ride as good as a Gun but its close. Id take the Glad, cause its a sit down. Once you sit down you will never want to stand again in any type of water. Our Gladiator is for sale if your interested. Its in the Classifieds.

I disagree, and I have owned both at the same time. Sitting down is hot, the visibility at speed is not as good, and the hits are transferred right to your spine. I would compensate by pushing with my feet into the foot well and slide my back up into the seat about 6 inches off the seat and let it work like a shock. I have run my Glad in 5-6 footers with lifeline, helmet and a maniac on the sticks.... we hit so hard I got a bloody nose. The big hits were on getting up to speed and coming down from speed, at full tilt it was classic cig.

My gun enjoys a more comfortable and cooler stance, visibility is far better at speed, and the hits are easily absorbed. Given the choice I will take the gun any day over the Glad. The rub rail issue was never a concern.

Brett

We were in my brothers 1987 Top Gun coming back from NYC to Pt. Pleasant in the Ocean off NJ driving with a 04 Gladiator in 4-6 ft seas for about 45 miles rocken n rolling, and i kept asking how can they take it sitting down ???? well the driver ended up in the hosp. and than he sold the boat, i hope that answer your question. I would rather stand, esp that w elive in New Jersey

I like the sit down boats and have hurt myself more standing than sitting. A lot of it depends on the way the seats are set and how you run each boat. Both my Kryptonite and now my Comp. have angled seats to absorb the shock so you are not transferring the hit straight up your spine. I don't know how the Gladiator seats are. I find too that when running a sit down boat it is better to run it flatter in the rough stuff, not airing it as much, and slice the way a V is supposed to. It slows the average speed but keeps it running true and keeps the boat from getting the big air (works on rough and big, not huge water). Actually many times I have gone faster by going slower.
I have been in my share of Guns and other 38+' stand up boats and I will take my sit down Comp any day of the week.
Those who have seen my Kryptonite run know I used to run with the big boys in some pretty rough stuff and not only kept up but finished the day feeling great!

i dont think you're aloud in our section.. you better leave before someone smacks you around....:evilb::evilb:

how bout if i show you my ass.....:Whatever::Whatever:

sweet!!!!!

it tells me you would touch phils dirty place if hed let you....:evilb::evilb:

i dont have too much time in a glad, but i love the time i have spent.. its a different ride, very relaxing.. standing feels right, but just seems like more work... sitting down felt very strange in the begining....

so you like sitting down now.

well with all the seat time in the amt, and the few times ive been in a glad yeah i do.. just seems more relaxing.....

you guys are nuts, you cannot compare a glad to a new top gun 39' or even a same yr glad vs top gun 38... a gun will eat a glad up all day,

ive been in both, and i am not sit or stand biased, but the top gun has the glad all day long

p.s. otis you cannot compare your 1993 gun to a 2003 glad with your above "ive owned both" statement.......... although its true that you have owned both, you cant compare a 1993 gun to a 2003 glad, your not comparing apples with apples

staggered 39 will eat all these rides up, but i dont have th kind of coin right now....

You are right about a new 39 w/700,s and the new drives. However, as far as a t/s Gun versus a Glad, there is no way a Gun will eat up a Glad. In fact, one of my buddys (multiple Gun owner) was shocked after riding in the Glad. He was very impressed with the ride. And, why should a Gun ride better? They are practically the same length, same style hull, even though the Glad steps are slightly different from 03 and on. Granted, the Gun is heavier, but the Glad is staggered. Maybe the Gun rides better and maybe it doesn't. But, eating it up, I don't think so.

stecz20 your still gay, and i miss you buddy!! but back to the question at hand, a glad vs a top gun in 5 footers, if i had the coin for either, i would pick the TG all day long....... for about 100 reasons, but 1 of them being that it rides better in the rough...

but thats just me, i feel a little more wave crushin in the TG, but either way you go they are both bad boys

as far as eat up goes that might have been a little much, although i still think a TG would eat up the glad, even if it didnt, at the end of a long run in 3-5 footers like the questions asked, youd be alot better off (and have alot less beer spilled on you) in a TG

Was, is, and will always be. :D

I can't believe you said this and nobody replied. You just love setting yourself up huh Stecz!?:D:D

I dont know, i've been out in those waters in a TG and was getting bounced around cause your standing up. The ride and hadling was great but give me my sit down bucket in a Gladiator any day!!!

I owned and raced both a 2000 TS Top Gun and a 2002 Gladiator (both with 500EFI/Bravo XRs) and I think that they are nearly identical. Both boats handled really well and both boats were impressive when the water got nasty. As for the 39 being any better than the Gladiator or the 38, we'll find out this summer. I have a deal pending on a 39 and we should be doing the sea trial this coming week. I honestly expect it to be about the same though.

I didn't know I was in the gay, boatless forum. I'm Sorry!:cool-smiley-026:
I thought I was in the Cigarette forum.:party-smiley-004:

I just wish i could trouble myself with this decision.....

Hows it going, I hope to hear that 540 sing by the house when the ice clears.

AGAIN ?? Thats been seen more times than and exit sign off the highway. Show me you wifes !!

Brett, I do agree with you on some points here. The Glad doesnt have the visability that standing in a Gun has. Reading the waves sittind down takes some getting used to. You do get a much better feel for the water sitting and its much easier getting into a rythem or grove while sitting. The question he asked is will the boat handle as good as a Gun, Not will your body handle it the same. You are most likely stating your past history in a Glad from your racing past in which you were forced to run as hard and fast as you possibly could. I am talking about taking the boat and running as good and as fast as the conditions allow. I have run 70+ mph in 3-5' seas on several occations with out a hard hit. I have also pushed my boat past the comfort zone int he same sized seas and got out of the groove and taken some pretty hard hits on my body. Im 44 y/o with a bad knee and a torn up back and Ill take sitting down in the Gladiator MOST anytime over a standup Gun. I will say that if you are in the nastiest of seas and just trying to get from point A to point B a Gun or Tiger would be my 1st choice of travel, but for most pleasure crusing Ill take my Gladiator

You will dino, she was all tuned up on scorpion racing engines dyno.....Those guys are great......Made 700 at 6000 rpm i am real excited for this year.....

Take a seat Jr.

I owned a 94 Gun and own an 02 Gladiator

Mr Tanner has a 98 Gun, which has the same hull as my 94

So when I am giving the man my unbiased opinion on comparing the two rides, I am giving him accurate info that he can relate to. He asks will the Glad handle the 3-5's as good as his Gun....My answer is yes. Is it the exact same ride....NO. Agian, will it handle the waves...YES.

1st hand knowledge. lots of seat time in both

Sounds great!! see ya soon.

dont make me hurt you tank.....:evilb:

his daddy lets him steer the big boat once and a while and now he knows it all.. young punks.....:evilb::evilb:

Young punk is right, but you gotta love him !!

He is a Britton ya know !!

i'll young punk ya!! Stecz you better watch your tone, maybe if you are nice Bob or I might let you ride on one of our boats for a poker run, i might even let you steer so you can make a comment on one of your next 125 post per day rants on the Cig Mystique vs Glad forum

Bob next time you are in latham stop by D'amico Engines and light a fire under franky's ass, ive washed the cig twice a week for 2 months now and i still havent dunked it!!

you and paul are breaking my balls, tank wants to have sex with me.. i cant catch a break... theres always tomorrow...