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skmulligan 04-13-2008 05:17 PM

mystique question
 
New to the forum.

I may be interested in a mystique as soon as I sell a 340 Dancer.

Have owned a few performance boats but never a Cigarette.

Of the two mystiques listed on offshore only, which do you guys feel is the better deal and what's more important, power or stepped hull.

Remember I'm new to all of this so sorry for the silly questions.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.

SKRAMER 04-13-2008 07:00 PM

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...d.php?t=183790 heres alittle info for you.

Boomer35 04-14-2008 08:51 AM

i would say let the $$ do the deciding. The 2001 without the step but WITH the 500EFI's has its pro's and cons?

but the 2002 WITH the step, but without the 500efi's has its own pro's and cons.

i would say they match up pretty equal, just see who is willing to deal better

dreamer 04-14-2008 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by Boomer35 (Post 2524507)
but the 2002 WITH the step, but without the 500efi's has its own pro's and cons.

what r the cons?

the t/s is a way better hull... i know i drove it

and ecu reflash and a set of header and u will be flying.... already does 82

skmulligan 04-14-2008 09:53 AM

I suppose that is one big question I have....

Does the t/s make that big of difference.

You can always upgrade motors but not a hull .?.?

Thanks for the input.

I'm way over my head here.

Biggus 04-14-2008 11:10 AM

Get the T/S, they realy run well with moderate power. We've got one that runs 105!

Brad 04-14-2008 01:01 PM

The early non-step Mystiques porpused like crazy!

hpoffshore 04-14-2008 01:43 PM

The T/S 30 496 boat does ALMOST 82...the 500EFI boat is a high 80's mph with the right driver.The TS is overall a much easier boat to run than the non-stepped hull(but the non-step is still a very nice/fun ride).

Originally Posted by dreamer (Post 2524516)
what r the cons?

the t/s is a way better hull... i know i drove it

and ecu reflash and a set of header and u will be flying.... already does 82


pm203 04-14-2008 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by Brad (Post 2524771)
The early non-step Mystiques porpused like crazy!

I have a video of a couple 00 Guns running with a Mystique. The Mystique was porposing badly. The porposing can be controlled with some tab and drive input, but will slow you down significantly.

Boomer35 04-14-2008 03:35 PM

pm could you link the video

pm203 04-14-2008 05:08 PM

It was made in 2000 and is on video-tape format. Miami 2 Step, Pudge's first Topgun(my old boat) and a couple of other Cigs if I remember correctly. It was shot from a helicopter and is pretty long with some nice close-ups and running shots.

Boomer35 04-14-2008 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by dreamer (Post 2524516)
what r the cons?

the t/s is a way better hull... i know i drove it

and ecu reflash and a set of header and u will be flying.... already does 82

ive never been on a t/s but im sure its a better hull.. the only con in my opinion on the 2 boats is i'd rather have the 500hp's efi's rather than the 496's

i spoke with phil at lip ship and he says he has filled in the notch on a couple on non step mystiques and it completely took care of the porpose

so.... if i had my choice in Hulls it would be the TS, and my choice in power would be the 500's, making the other hull a con, and the other power a con

Hot Duck 04-14-2008 08:29 PM

There is a non-stepped Mystique with 500EFIs in the classifieds.

http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o22514-en.html

skmulligan 04-14-2008 10:22 PM

Thanks for all the info.

You all have helped more than you'll know.

Can't wait to shed this cruiser for a bruiser (if you'd ever call a 30ft boat that).

Brad 04-15-2008 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 2524831)
I have a video of a couple 00 Guns running with a Mystique. The Mystique was porposing badly. The porposing can be controlled with some tab and drive input, but will slow you down significantly.

The boat porpused so badly that Neil Henandez could not keep the boat level in a Cig commercail that use to air during the boat races!

skmulligan 04-15-2008 10:10 PM

Thanks Brad.

So I suppose the stepped hull is looking better all the time...

Sam69 04-15-2008 10:48 PM

Will cig still build a Vice?

Any clue how much one might run $$ ?

Tom A. 04-16-2008 11:24 AM

I asked Skip at the Miami Boat Show if they were still building the Gladiators. He said that he would build either a Gladiator or Vice as a custom order but they were not offering them in the line up because it costs them almost the same to build one of them as a base Top Gun. Therefore they can not price them low enough to justify not buying a Gun.
Like anything though, if you want a smaller Cigarette, they will build it for the right price.

skmulligan 04-18-2008 04:03 PM

Do you folks have any opinion on the S/T Mystique listed on Offshore Only from Canada?

Anybody know this boat?

She looks sharp from the pics.

dreamer 04-18-2008 04:31 PM

yes i know it...

might buy it if my gladiator search doesnt work out...

im thinking way lowr dollars though....

nice boat

skmulligan 04-20-2008 07:53 AM

Thanks Dreamer.

Anybody else?


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