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Originally Posted by GLH
(Post 2532659)
What I like the most about that picture is the $815 of gas in the full tanks !!! :D:D:D
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Originally Posted by thisistank
(Post 2532607)
No offense, I know Apache is "king of rough water" and all but saying bet on Apache is a stretch. I've been on both in big water and really noticed no difference in ride and handling. They're both big heavy conventinal Vee bottoms and are basically brothers seperated at birth. No real difference in the two in my opinion.
And a 41 Apache with 1000's and sixes compared to a 42 Tiger with 1000's and sixes in an open water race would come down purely to driver (skill and luck). From what I hear the Apache runs the rough water better, and the construction is stronger. Mark McManus, taught by Don Aronow, is steeped in building the best Offshore powerboat. Like I said....I wish Sacred Ground would chime in, he could tell us his first hand experiences. ApacheCarl and Nykamp would also know. Those guys are knowledgeable straight shooters. I could be mistaken but I believe Apache Carl raced against one of the race only Tigers. Here is a video of a powerboat that will give a 41 Apache a bow eye to bow eye race in the rough stuff! Ed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6CcRZ37vNs |
Now to get this thread back on topic...........
The Top Gun will be a few mph faster with the same power and the resale will be better (IMO). The Gun has a bigger cockpit. The Tiger will probably do better in the rough water but has a smaller cockpit. The one thing I liked about the 2000-2005 TG's are the dash set-ups. With the Gun, you don't have a million gauges to watch as you do with the Tiger. It's a trade off but I'd go for the Gun. This one looks nice :D http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o22774-en.html |
Originally Posted by Comanche3Six
(Post 2533276)
Tank
From what I hear the Apache runs the rough water better, and the construction is stronger. Mark McManus, taught by Don Aronow, is steeped in building the best Offshore powerboat. Like I said....I wish Sacred Ground would chime in, he could tell us his first hand experiences. ApacheCarl and Nykamp would also know. Those guys are knowledgeable straight shooters. I could be mistaken but I believe Apache Carl raced against one of the race only Tigers. Here is a video of a powerboat that will give a 41 Apache a bow eye to bow eye race in the rough stuff! Ed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6CcRZ37vNs |
I voted for the Tiger, here is a beautiful 39' Top Gun
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IMHO an indication of resale value between the two can be determined by the difference in sales of current models. I believe that the 39TG is currently the top selling model and thus should have the best resale value in the future.
With respect to performance ask someone who's raced them. The rest of us wannabes aren't skilled enough to know the difference and will probably never know; and if you'd had the good fortune of personally finding out in true 6-8's+ would most likely would have sh*t your pants anyway. Does 4 feet make a difference?...1 inch more I'd be King, 1 inch less.......in spite of that you can get laid with a Tiger and/or a Gun...just ask Stecz. :D But then again maybe not. |
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Originally Posted by omerta one
(Post 2533764)
and if you'd had the good fortune of personally finding out in true 6-8's+ would most likely would have sh*t your pants anyway.
Daddy knows all about running in true 6-8's...These were well spread out and allowed us to run 60 or so with them while quartering:D The Gun did just fine... |
Originally Posted by omerta one
(Post 2533764)
IMHO an indication of resale value between the two can be determined by the difference in sales of current models. I believe that the 39TG is currently the top selling model and thus should have the best resale value in the future.
With respect to performance ask someone who's raced them. The rest of us wannabes aren't skilled enough to know the difference and will probably never know; and if you'd had the good fortune of personally finding out in true 6-8's+ would most likely would have sh*t your pants anyway. Does 4 feet make a difference?...1 inch more I'd be King, 1 inch less.......in spite of that you can get laid with a Tiger and/or a Gun...just ask Stecz. :D But then again maybe not. |
39 is the badest in the land.... to be honest, i own a gun before a tiger.. because i got it like that.... tank your a homo, you calling that 6 fters... man you need to get out... holy homo.....
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Originally Posted by stecz20
(Post 2533836)
39 is the badest in the land.... to be honest, i own a gun before a tiger.. because i got it like that.... tank your a homo, you calling that 6 fters... man you need to get out... holy homo.....
If you ran in water like that Stecz, you'd be curled up in the fetal position crying for your momma! 6-8's +! |
Originally Posted by thisistank
(Post 2533841)
Stecz, I said the boat handled 6-8's....Kind've like how you love to TAKE 6-8's!!:evilb:
If you ran in water like that Stecz, you'd be curled up in the fetal position crying for your momma! 6-8's +! |
Originally Posted by omerta one
(Post 2533844)
Or on all fours begging for more! :evilb:
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hurt is coming and hell will follow....
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Originally Posted by stecz20
(Post 2533836)
39 is the badest in the land.... to be honest, i own a gun before a tiger.. because i got it like that.... tank your a homo, you calling that 6 fters... man you need to get out... holy homo.....
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Originally Posted by offshoredrillin
(Post 2533924)
remember this when i'm pulling away from the dock without you...:D
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Originally Posted by stecz20
(Post 2534074)
nice... i never said i dont love them, just i have no reason to have one... im a simple man, i dont need all that flash, you know.....:cool-smiley-011::cool-smiley-011:
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Originally Posted by stecz20
(Post 2534074)
im a simple man,
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Originally Posted by thisistank
(Post 2534425)
You're a simpleton...There's a big difference.:evilb::D
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Originally Posted by stecz20
(Post 2534790)
lapd smokes the pole.....:cool-smiley-011::cool-smiley-011:
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i liked you better when you owned a baja....
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Originally Posted by stecz20
(Post 2535308)
i liked you better when you owned a baja....
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you were a nice boy....
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Every place you guys go you turn it into your own little circle jerk.
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Originally Posted by Quiet Storm
(Post 2535411)
Every place you guys go you turn it into your own little circle jerk.
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Originally Posted by stecz20
(Post 2535891)
lightem up francis.... just trying to keep it light...
That's right out of Jersey! Here's a couple of pics of a nice toy. |
Originally Posted by Comanche3Six
(Post 2536280)
LOL!
That's right out of Jersey! Here's a couple of pics of a nice toy. |
Originally Posted by Comanche3Six
(Post 2536280)
Here's a couple of pics of a nice toy.
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Originally Posted by Comanche3Six
(Post 2536280)
LOL!
That's right out of Jersey! Here's a couple of pics of a nice toy. |
Yup, it's the one from Ohio.
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Originally Posted by offshoredrillin
(Post 2537003)
Isnt that the Stevie wonder fountain paint job?
Yeah, but on a Cigarette it looks much better! |
Originally Posted by Quiet Storm
(Post 2535411)
Every place you guys go you turn it into your own little circle jerk.
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Originally Posted by Comanche3Six
(Post 2536280)
LOL!
That's right out of Jersey! Here's a couple of pics of a nice toy. |
Originally Posted by Tote-N-One
(Post 2537328)
It is entertaining though!:food-smiley-007:
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Croozin
You may know a guy up here named Steve Zuckerman, I think he used to race also. He has a Nordic now. |
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