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Croozin2 04-21-2008 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by GLH (Post 2532659)
What I like the most about that picture is the $815 of gas in the full tanks !!! :D:D:D

No chit, G!!! Me and a buddy rode to the local watering hole yesterday and figured it took a cool $175 to get there and then add in a small bar tab..........We must really LOVE powerboating!!:D:D

Comanche3Six 04-21-2008 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 2532607)
No offense, I know Apache is "king of rough water" and all but saying bet on Apache is a stretch. I've been on both in big water and really noticed no difference in ride and handling. They're both big heavy conventinal Vee bottoms and are basically brothers seperated at birth. No real difference in the two in my opinion.

And a 41 Apache with 1000's and sixes compared to a 42 Tiger with 1000's and sixes in an open water race would come down purely to driver (skill and luck).

Tank
From what I hear the Apache runs the rough water better, and the construction is stronger. Mark McManus, taught by Don Aronow, is steeped in building the best Offshore powerboat. Like I said....I wish Sacred Ground would chime in, he could tell us his first hand experiences. ApacheCarl and Nykamp would also know. Those guys are knowledgeable straight shooters. I could be mistaken but I believe Apache Carl raced against one of the race only Tigers.
Here is a video of a powerboat that will give a 41 Apache a bow eye to bow eye race in the rough stuff!
Ed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6CcRZ37vNs

Lucky Strike Jr 04-21-2008 05:05 PM

Now to get this thread back on topic...........

The Top Gun will be a few mph faster with the same power and the resale will be better (IMO). The Gun has a bigger cockpit. The Tiger will probably do better in the rough water but has a smaller cockpit. The one thing I liked about the 2000-2005 TG's are the dash set-ups. With the Gun, you don't have a million gauges to watch as you do with the Tiger. It's a trade off but I'd go for the Gun.

This one looks nice :D
http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o22774-en.html

thisistank 04-21-2008 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 2533276)
Tank
From what I hear the Apache runs the rough water better, and the construction is stronger. Mark McManus, taught by Don Aronow, is steeped in building the best Offshore powerboat. Like I said....I wish Sacred Ground would chime in, he could tell us his first hand experiences. ApacheCarl and Nykamp would also know. Those guys are knowledgeable straight shooters. I could be mistaken but I believe Apache Carl raced against one of the race only Tigers.
Here is a video of a powerboat that will give a 41 Apache a bow eye to bow eye race in the rough stuff!
Ed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6CcRZ37vNs

Ed you know you're preaching to the quire but I just think it's way to close of a fight to make a undisputed choice.

Comanche3Six 04-21-2008 08:50 PM

I voted for the Tiger, here is a beautiful 39' Top Gun

omerta one 04-21-2008 10:17 PM

IMHO an indication of resale value between the two can be determined by the difference in sales of current models. I believe that the 39TG is currently the top selling model and thus should have the best resale value in the future.

With respect to performance ask someone who's raced them. The rest of us wannabes aren't skilled enough to know the difference and will probably never know; and if you'd had the good fortune of personally finding out in true 6-8's+ would most likely would have sh*t your pants anyway.

Does 4 feet make a difference?...1 inch more I'd be King, 1 inch less.......in spite of that you can get laid with a Tiger and/or a Gun...just ask Stecz. :D But then again maybe not.

thisistank 04-21-2008 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by omerta one (Post 2533764)
and if you'd had the good fortune of personally finding out in true 6-8's+ would most likely would have sh*t your pants anyway.


Daddy knows all about running in true 6-8's...These were well spread out and allowed us to run 60 or so with them while quartering:D The Gun did just fine...

stecz20 04-21-2008 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by omerta one (Post 2533764)
IMHO an indication of resale value between the two can be determined by the difference in sales of current models. I believe that the 39TG is currently the top selling model and thus should have the best resale value in the future.

With respect to performance ask someone who's raced them. The rest of us wannabes aren't skilled enough to know the difference and will probably never know; and if you'd had the good fortune of personally finding out in true 6-8's+ would most likely would have sh*t your pants anyway.

Does 4 feet make a difference?...1 inch more I'd be King, 1 inch less.......in spite of that you can get laid with a Tiger and/or a Gun...just ask Stecz. :D But then again maybe not.

dont make me hurt you.....:cool-smiley-011::cool-smiley-011:

stecz20 04-21-2008 11:32 PM

39 is the badest in the land.... to be honest, i own a gun before a tiger.. because i got it like that.... tank your a homo, you calling that 6 fters... man you need to get out... holy homo.....

thisistank 04-21-2008 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by stecz20 (Post 2533836)
39 is the badest in the land.... to be honest, i own a gun before a tiger.. because i got it like that.... tank your a homo, you calling that 6 fters... man you need to get out... holy homo.....

Stecz, I said the boat handled 6-8's....Kind've like how you love to TAKE 6-8's!!:evilb:

If you ran in water like that Stecz, you'd be curled up in the fetal position crying for your momma!

6-8's +!

omerta one 04-21-2008 11:40 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 2533841)
Stecz, I said the boat handled 6-8's....Kind've like how you love to TAKE 6-8's!!:evilb:

If you ran in water like that Stecz, you'd be curled up in the fetal position crying for your momma!

6-8's +!

Or on all fours begging for more! :evilb:

thisistank 04-21-2008 11:43 PM


Originally Posted by omerta one (Post 2533844)
Or on all fours begging for more! :evilb:

:party-smiley-004::evilb::D

stecz20 04-22-2008 12:00 AM

hurt is coming and hell will follow....

offshoredrillin 04-22-2008 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by stecz20 (Post 2533836)
39 is the badest in the land.... to be honest, i own a gun before a tiger.. because i got it like that.... tank your a homo, you calling that 6 fters... man you need to get out... holy homo.....

remember this when i'm pulling away from the dock without you...:D

stecz20 04-22-2008 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 2533924)
remember this when i'm pulling away from the dock without you...:D

nice... i never said i dont love them, just i have no reason to have one... im a simple man, i dont need all that flash, you know.....:cool-smiley-011::cool-smiley-011:

offshoredrillin 04-22-2008 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by stecz20 (Post 2534074)
nice... i never said i dont love them, just i have no reason to have one... im a simple man, i dont need all that flash, you know.....:cool-smiley-011::cool-smiley-011:

lol, good cover up...I will get you and Chris some pirate hats for the runs.

thisistank 04-22-2008 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by stecz20 (Post 2534074)
im a simple man,

You're a simpleton...There's a big difference.:evilb::D

stecz20 04-22-2008 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 2534425)
You're a simpleton...There's a big difference.:evilb::D

lapd smokes the pole.....:cool-smiley-011::cool-smiley-011:

thisistank 04-22-2008 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by stecz20 (Post 2534790)
lapd smokes the pole.....:cool-smiley-011::cool-smiley-011:

agreed...Doesn't change the above fact----->:stupid: :evilb:

stecz20 04-22-2008 11:17 PM

i liked you better when you owned a baja....

thisistank 04-22-2008 11:54 PM


Originally Posted by stecz20 (Post 2535308)
i liked you better when you owned a baja....

LMFAO!!! I was much more subdued huh!?:D:D

stecz20 04-23-2008 12:53 AM

you were a nice boy....

Quiet Storm 04-23-2008 06:28 AM

Every place you guys go you turn it into your own little circle jerk.

stecz20 04-23-2008 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by Quiet Storm (Post 2535411)
Every place you guys go you turn it into your own little circle jerk.

lightem up francis.... just trying to keep it light...

Comanche3Six 04-23-2008 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by stecz20 (Post 2535891)
lightem up francis.... just trying to keep it light...

LOL!
That's right out of Jersey!

Here's a couple of pics of a nice toy.

Croozin2 04-23-2008 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 2536280)
LOL!
That's right out of Jersey!

Here's a couple of pics of a nice toy.

Now that is friggin sweeeeeeeeettt!!! Even the damn tie-bar on a #6 is massive as hell!!!! What a piece of machinery!

GLH 04-23-2008 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 2536280)
Here's a couple of pics of a nice toy.

Indeed.

offshoredrillin 04-24-2008 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 2536280)
LOL!
That's right out of Jersey!

Here's a couple of pics of a nice toy.

Isnt that the Stevie wonder fountain paint job?

Dan Adams 04-24-2008 11:06 AM

Yup, it's the one from Ohio.

Comanche3Six 04-24-2008 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 2537003)
Isnt that the Stevie wonder fountain paint job?

LOL!
Yeah, but on a Cigarette it looks much better!

Tow-N-One 04-24-2008 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by Quiet Storm (Post 2535411)
Every place you guys go you turn it into your own little circle jerk.

It is entertaining though!:food-smiley-007:

stecz20 04-24-2008 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by Comanche3Six (Post 2536280)
LOL!
That's right out of Jersey!

Here's a couple of pics of a nice toy.

nice piece indeed....

Croozin2 04-25-2008 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by Tote-N-One (Post 2537328)
It is entertaining though!:food-smiley-007:

TNO, Hendersonville Tennessee, huh? Made a many trip up there when we were running STV Mod-VP boats. They tended to get busted up every once in a while and needed to return to the plant for some "cosmetic" work.:cool-smiley-011:

Tow-N-One 04-25-2008 08:44 AM

Croozin

You may know a guy up here named Steve Zuckerman, I think he used to race also. He has a Nordic now.


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