thinking of selling our top gun
07-23-2008, 02:09 PM
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a lot of opinions, all good.
my biggest question is , to use a broker or not?
I dont need the money and there are no storage issues.
there are a lot of upgrades that make this boat different than the 93.
for 75k, I will hang on to it.
once I find out a real number, I will decide to keep or sell her.
if anyone would like more info, just send me a pm.
my biggest question is , to use a broker or not?
I dont need the money and there are no storage issues.
there are a lot of upgrades that make this boat different than the 93.
for 75k, I will hang on to it.
once I find out a real number, I will decide to keep or sell her.
if anyone would like more info, just send me a pm.
07-23-2008, 02:36 PM
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a lot of opinions, all good.
my biggest question is , to use a broker or not?
I dont need the money and there are no storage issues.
there are a lot of upgrades that make this boat different than the 93.
for 75k, I will hang on to it.
once I find out a real number, I will decide to keep or sell her.
if anyone would like more info, just send me a pm.
my biggest question is , to use a broker or not?
I dont need the money and there are no storage issues.
there are a lot of upgrades that make this boat different than the 93.
for 75k, I will hang on to it.
once I find out a real number, I will decide to keep or sell her.
if anyone would like more info, just send me a pm.
Only way to find out is to put it up for sale with an ad, but I wouldn't think a real number greater than 75 would show up these days, but it might be exactly what someone was looking for with better money. A broker might tell you it would go for more if you list with him, but it sounds like that can be a shady deal.
You're best be might be a broker dealing with Europe quite a bit. Our ****ty dollar has turned it into quite the market for them to buy toys, and they love Cig's over there.
I personally love the boat, but that'd be the top of my price range, and the upkeep/storage costs would kill me.
Good luck.
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07-23-2008, 03:41 PM
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Not having seen either boat in person the lip ship boat seems to have a lot of upgrades or updates that the other one doesn't. Naca ducts, newer style bolsters, flat rails on the deck and transom, better trailer, closed cooling, new gauges, new windscreen, Hydraulic steering, Bravos and on and on....
You'd have to see them boat in person and compare the two. The lip ship boat is much more up to date looking.
Ask anyone that's updated one it isn't cheap. If you're just looking for a cig to go boating then each would work. But in my opinion, $75K would move the lip ship boat pretty quick.
From the appearance that's a lot of boat for $75K.
You'd have to see them boat in person and compare the two. The lip ship boat is much more up to date looking.
Ask anyone that's updated one it isn't cheap. If you're just looking for a cig to go boating then each would work. But in my opinion, $75K would move the lip ship boat pretty quick.
From the appearance that's a lot of boat for $75K.
07-23-2008, 04:06 PM
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a lot of opinions, all good.
my biggest question is , to use a broker or not?
I dont need the money and there are no storage issues.
there are a lot of upgrades that make this boat different than the 93.
for 75k, I will hang on to it.
once I find out a real number, I will decide to keep or sell her.
if anyone would like more info, just send me a pm.
my biggest question is , to use a broker or not?
I dont need the money and there are no storage issues.
there are a lot of upgrades that make this boat different than the 93.
for 75k, I will hang on to it.
once I find out a real number, I will decide to keep or sell her.
if anyone would like more info, just send me a pm.
I'd keep it too for 75K. That's a helluva boat!
The market for the straight bottom guns is getting squeezed IMO as more used TS Guns come on the market that appear priced to sell. If I was looking at boats in the 100K range, I'm going to move up to 150k and get a TS. Easier said then done I suppose.
07-23-2008, 04:33 PM
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As much as I don't care for stepped boats, the step now equates to economy more than speed. If you can cruise for less $$, that makes a difference, even though the boat's cost may outweigh the savings by several times.
On brokers- they typically suck. Last year I was looking for a second boat- I wanted a Cig 35 or something thereabouts. I had cash and was willing to travel. I couldn't get arrested by brokers. Few returned calls, even less follow-up. I couldn't get details, pics- nothing. I was treated like a pest. If they aren't interested in doing anything with boats they have listed, I don't imagine you'll get any better treatment. My impression is all they do is advertise in all the places you can advertise it yourself- Boat Trader, Yachtworld, etc. Ebay is good for visibility. I look at the online ad sites and I'm astonished at the asking prices on many of these boats. I also see the Ebay auctions with absurd starting prices. People are dreaming about boat values- the market is as bad as I've seen it and that goes back to the mid-70's. My take is this- whether you put it on the common sites or the broker does. If he ads 20 grand to the cost to give him some negotiation room and an $8K commission, you probably won't sell it. If you want to get market out of it and you want someone to screen the tire-kickers, you'll have to cough up the 8 out of your end. You can talk to a few losers and place a few ads for 8 grand. You need a real number on it though- look in the OSO classifieds at owner-for-sale boats- and elsewhere too. But, I watch the market pretty closely- if someone showed up with 75 large, you'd be ahead of alot of guys with boats for sale these days.
Like I wrote before- you're close to the end of the season- Spring is going to have way more buyers. Unless Obama gets elected and unleaded is $7 a gallon- then the $75K would look really good.
On brokers- they typically suck. Last year I was looking for a second boat- I wanted a Cig 35 or something thereabouts. I had cash and was willing to travel. I couldn't get arrested by brokers. Few returned calls, even less follow-up. I couldn't get details, pics- nothing. I was treated like a pest. If they aren't interested in doing anything with boats they have listed, I don't imagine you'll get any better treatment. My impression is all they do is advertise in all the places you can advertise it yourself- Boat Trader, Yachtworld, etc. Ebay is good for visibility. I look at the online ad sites and I'm astonished at the asking prices on many of these boats. I also see the Ebay auctions with absurd starting prices. People are dreaming about boat values- the market is as bad as I've seen it and that goes back to the mid-70's. My take is this- whether you put it on the common sites or the broker does. If he ads 20 grand to the cost to give him some negotiation room and an $8K commission, you probably won't sell it. If you want to get market out of it and you want someone to screen the tire-kickers, you'll have to cough up the 8 out of your end. You can talk to a few losers and place a few ads for 8 grand. You need a real number on it though- look in the OSO classifieds at owner-for-sale boats- and elsewhere too. But, I watch the market pretty closely- if someone showed up with 75 large, you'd be ahead of alot of guys with boats for sale these days.
Like I wrote before- you're close to the end of the season- Spring is going to have way more buyers. Unless Obama gets elected and unleaded is $7 a gallon- then the $75K would look really good.
07-24-2008, 04:50 PM
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How can you put a price on that boat with no cockpit shots. It might need a huge interior upgrade and what kind of steering does it have?
My feeling in this market with all the goodies above - $69K
Its a nice beginner Cig
My feeling in this market with all the goodies above - $69K
Its a nice beginner Cig
07-28-2008, 09:41 AM
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oreollzeue,
excellent question.
cabin: full cabin, with head and a/c
flat screen dvd, stereo and amp
steering: external, marine machine
excellent question.
cabin: full cabin, with head and a/c
flat screen dvd, stereo and amp
steering: external, marine machine
07-28-2008, 10:09 AM
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I just sold my 99 36 Baja OL last month for 79,800 and that was just because the guy said he wanted to pay less than 80K. Clean boat with AC/heat HP500's w/420 hours, bravo's and external steering and aluminum trailer. It sold in less than a week of me listing it for sale. I live in Vegas and it went to AZ. It sure was alot easier selling it than buying it. I shipped it from MI. I think 75 to 80 is a good price for that boat. My 99 OL was far more updated and modern looking than any 90's cig. Cigs did not start looking very modern till 04 and even those use the same helm. Although I still love cigs for the classic lines and hopefully will be my next boat.
07-28-2008, 02:05 PM
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How can you compare a Cig to a Baja? Don't get me wrong they are nice boats for the money but there not comparable to a Top Gun. I would take a 1995 Gun in good shape over any Baja for the same price.
